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SLOWLY whistleblowing, forensic psychologist mindreader gang

https://rumble.com/v7ecqjs-aaaa.html

Here is my video, sharing a life experience of being stalked, harassed, raped and trafficked by a group of women from families that had primed me for non-consensual human slavery in later life.

Starting in the early 2000’s where they attempted to accuse many families in my hometown of child abuse in attempt to traffic.

One of the women involved: claimed to read minds remotely, sharing with me her work, how she was able to play guess who with peoples minds all from the distance, installing what these families like to call “mind demons’’.

I was slowly circled, and later threatened, abused, isolated and told to take my life through cyberstalking and physical harassment.

No names of families are listed here, or place names, i am not creating a witch hunt.

My channel has another video going through some of the methods i had heard from this woman on mind reading, very similar to Charles Andy Morgan, ex CIA, DARPA and military forensic psychologist mind reader, and John Norseen of Lockheed Martin.

Please listen along, thank you.

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Gangstalking Document - Recommended Read. 💙.

Gangstalking documents - Recommended read.

Gangstalking All Overall - Addresses a variety of issues such as subvocal, community gang-stalking, sound & technology, perspective, social media, work mobbing, how to navigate gangstalking, definitions of gangstalking, boastcasting in publics and etc. It's a more in-depth guide.

Gangstalking questions answered: This documents talks about the surrounding issues about gangstalking and different perspectives from other targeted individuals. Such as gangstalker's motivations, how to get better sleep, they're tactics, a variety of ways to protect yourself, raising awareness and etc.

To download Gang-stalking All Overall:

https://docdro.id/EZmmSbi

I don't think it hurts to read both as you might find something, hopefully helpful there. Just remember to pick and choose what information you want.

Learn to nitpick your information:

Gang-stalking is a complex issue with a few different varieties. E.g. Military gang-stalking, Community gang-stalking and etc.

Often within community groups, you will see a post/article but soon discovered that they're beliefs are not quite the same as yours - Don't let this stop you, read the article anyway, you might just discover some helpful/interesting information.

If you learn to pick and choose what information, you receive. It might help in the future. All free information is helpful as long as you know what to look for.

u/DuchessJulietDG — 1 day ago
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Don't Be Prey: What 15 Years of Torture Taught Me About Fighting Back (Part 2- economic siege)

Way before you start to notice that you are being targeted by the police and state cowards, they have already mapped out your economic situation. They know your income, your savings, and exactly how much money you have. This helps them decide how to deplete you financially, whether they can affect your workplace, and whether they can destroy your main source of income.

If you have a business, they will do their best to sabotage it. If you work for a company and hold a degree,like me, an engineering degree they will cut you off from getting any jobs so you become broke. And so on.

Being broke is the key word here.

In this world, you cannot do anything without money. Everything needs money. If you want to eat, you have to spend. If you need to drink, or even just to breathe, you need money. That is common sense.

But in their twisted minds, they think: How can we control that so we can annihilate him slowly?

Because if your basic survival needs are not met, you will naturally focus on satisfying those needs. If you are hungry, you need to eat. To eat, you need money. So their playbook is simple: deplete you economically so you struggle to make ends meet. You stop fighting and focus on meeting those basic needs instead. Meanwhile, they keep torturing you.

Every attempt you make to earn money or become financially independent, they will sabotage.

I could list the mistakes I made since I did not know this from the very beginning. But they also played it smart. When they sabotage your economic life, they do it step by step, with small cuts each time. So instead of listing my own mistakes, I will walk you through the economic siege.

But first, go read about the story of Sisyphus. Because if you repeat my mistakes, that is the situation they will put you in.

Now they started to torture you, and you want to flee. Here is how they win by you doing exactly that.

  • First, to flee, you have to leave your job and rely on your savings.
  • Once you do that, they will chase you wherever you go. You will keep constantly moving from one country to another, or from one state to another.
  • By doing so, you will have to spend from your own money. Once you do that, your savings will be depleted until you have no money left to survive.
  • When your money is out, you will start selling assets to cover your expenses. And yes, that is another bad move.
  • Then you circle back and try to get any job that pays the bills. If you do Uber or other delivery jobs, they will create situations where you get fined, your equipment gets destroyed, and so on. Your net will be a loss, or barely enough to pay your bills.
  • Then you will think maybe you should invest in the stock market or start learning to trade. And here comes another problem. Directed energy weapons are hellish weapons designed to disrupt your normal cognitive model. In other words, you will make the wrong moves. Even though they cannot control every single move, they will make sure your net is a loss.
  • Of course, regular jobs will be cut off. No one will hire you because every application gets turned down.
  • You will keep asking family and friends for money. (Assuming you cannot rely on government social help. I live in Egypt, so I do not have that option.) Eventually, they will all bail on you because you are asking for too much money. They will wonder why a competent person cannot land a job. It is even worse if you rely on a family member who is also a target. Then they have direct control over your economy.
  • Later, if you want to sell an asset to have some money, all the buyers will give you the absolute lowest price. Do not accept any offer below the market value of that asset, even if you are desperate to sell.
  • They will send hustlers at you to con you out of your money. When you go to the police, they will refuse to take a report. They will act as if the system is down and tell you to come back later. Or they will tell you a story about another man who got conned out of much more money and just let it go because it was too hard to prove anything.

Here are few solutions that migh be of help though:

remember: any money you make during this war will only be made in a market or environment where they cannot totally control everything.

1. Real Estate
If you have a house, home, or apartment, never sell it just to move from the place where you live. Never sell real estate. Rent it instead. But make sure the contract includes a clause that if anything is damaged, the renter pays the bill, or insure the property against fire and other damage. Those police cowards are murderers at the end of the day, so you have to treat anyone you do business with as a potential enemy. But never sell a real estate asset.

2. Buy Gold
If you have money or savings, buy gold in small amounts if you can. That way, you have something to fall back on if anything happens. Its value increases over time because this is not a one- or two-year war. It is a multi-year war. Once you buy, never sell unless you truly need to.

3. Start a Small Online Business
Start an online business or something similar, but keep it small. Do not invest heavily in it. Just enough to get it started. If it goes well, good for you. If it doesn't, the loss is small.

4. Build Passive Income
Start anything that can generate passive income, like YouTube or other platforms. Even a small amount of money helps keep you going.

5. Document the Economic Struggle
Remember, when reporting to any organization or speaking online about what is happening to you, always mention the economic struggle they have put you through.

Make no mistake. You are dealing with criminals, murderers, and cowards with authority.

Edit: Sometimes, the best course of action is to leave the country. This fundamentally shifts the dynamic, as it forces the opposing party out of their comfort zone, away from their own rules, courts, and legal systems, and requires them to adapt to the laws and regulations of your chosen destination. However, this strategy is only viable if you have the economic means to support yourself abroad for a very long time.

Also you need to be visable online at all times, so that everyone knows what is happening to you and if anything happnes to you who gets the responsibility.

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u/josefhgsd — 2 days ago
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Countercivilian Surveillance Techniques

Have you ever noticed any of the following countercivilian surveillance techniques? You may have heard of a few of them: subsonics such as quiet voices around you or in your own home, direct-to-eye messaging, subtle flavors or poisons in food such as ones intended to hurt your teeth, or even dream control?

If you want to help promote awareness about these countercivilian techniques, consider supporting OpenConversation by donating or taking a poll on your awareness of these techniques: https://www.openconversationtruth.com/

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u/Expensive_Talk9320 — 2 days ago
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I Found over 850,000 Private Cameras Accessible Through Axon Fusus in just 324 Jurisdictions With Their "Axon Community Connect" Program.

Axon Fusus supports Fusion Centers and Real Time Crime Centers by providing various data streams, such as body camera live streams and live CCTV feeds, as well as many other types of data. Axon Community Connect is a program where homeowners and business can grant police access to their private camera feeds.

https://axoncommunityconnect.com/communities/ has 324 community sites listed, I collected all their available camera data in a spreadsheet. Those 324 communities list having access to over 850,000 privately owned cameras.

Spreadsheet: https://drive.proton.me/urls/XJ1EBVR0B8#vYuteBYL8nbi

I'm not sure if there are more as I can't find any references to agencies abilities to not list their sites similar to Flock's Transparency Portals. I also do know that there are similar programs around the county without using Axon Fusus, and as such there are most likely several million more of these cameras given just over 300 locations provide 850,000 cameras.

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u/DuchessJulietDG — 4 days ago
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EBAY CASE TARGETING ANALYSIS: The eBay Case Does Not Prove Every TI Claim — But It Proves Organized Stalking Exists in a Broader, Real-World Form

Whenever the eBay cyberstalking case is brought up in discussions about gang stalking, one objection appears almost immediately: “That case is completely different from what Targeted Individuals describe.”

There is some truth to that criticism. The eBay campaign was not identical to the broader GS model commonly described in TI communities. David and Ina Steiner did not have their entire family, social circle, neighborhood, workplace, medical providers, store employees, and random strangers knowingly recruited against them. There was also no evidence of mind-reading, V2K, directed-energy weapons, or other extraordinary technologies.

But that does not make the eBay case irrelevant. In fact, it makes the case extremely useful because it gives us a proven baseline for what organized stalking looks like when investigators eventually uncover the people, communications, resources, and hierarchy behind apparently disconnected incidents.

The eBay case demonstrates that a group of professional actors can secretly coordinate surveillance, psychological intimidation, online harassment, physical stalking, deception, and concealment against private civilians. That broader category of behavior is no longer hypothetical.

What the eBay Case Actually Established

David and Ina Steiner published EcommerceBytes, a newsletter that reported critically on eBay. Senior people inside the company became hostile toward that reporting, and members of eBay’s corporate security organization eventually carried out a coordinated harassment operation against the couple.

The operation involved several people performing different functions rather than one obsessive individual acting alone. Some participants operated anonymous accounts and sent hostile messages. Others arranged disturbing deliveries. Security personnel travelled to Massachusetts, surveilled the Steiners near their home, photographed their property, followed them, and attempted to place a GPS tracker on their vehicle. False advertisements were also used to send strangers toward the Steiners’ home.

The campaign therefore contained several features that are central to the ordinary meaning of organized stalking:

  • Multiple people coordinating against the same targets.
  • Different participants performing different operational roles.
  • Physical surveillance combined with online harassment.
  • Psychological intimidation deliberately designed to frighten and destabilize.
  • Concealed identities and anonymous accounts.
  • Attempts to monitor the victims’ movements.
  • Manipulation of outsiders who did not necessarily understand the larger operation.
  • Institutional resources and professional security expertise.
  • Attempts to destroy evidence and mislead investigators once police became involved.

Legally, prosecutors used established offences such as cyberstalking, conspiracy, witness tampering, obstruction, and interstate stalking rather than the term “gang stalking.” But the descriptive point remains straightforward: several people coordinated their actions to stalk, intimidate, monitor, and psychologically pressure the same two individuals.

The Biggest Difference: Scale

The clearest difference between eBay and the broader GS model is the size and distribution of the alleged network.

The eBay operation had a relatively compact professional core. Once investigators penetrated the operation, they could identify eBay employees and contractors, reconstruct communications, follow travel records, examine rental vehicles, connect online accounts, and identify specific people performing specific tasks.

In contrast, many TI accounts describe something much wider. They report harassment following them across homes, workplaces, relationships, shops, public transportation, online spaces, healthcare settings, and sometimes different cities or countries. They often believe that ordinary civilians are somehow being recruited, manipulated, informed, or encouraged to participate.

That broader model commonly includes allegations involving:

  • Friends and relatives suddenly becoming hostile or repeating sensitive information.
  • Coworkers participating in workplace mobbing or directed conversations.
  • Neighbors monitoring routines or creating repeated disturbances.
  • Store or restaurant employees behaving in apparently coordinated ways.
  • Strangers appearing repeatedly around the target.
  • Romantic relationships being sabotaged.
  • Employers or institutions receiving damaging information about the target.
  • Social networks gradually becoming more hostile or inaccessible.

The eBay evidence does not establish this wider civilian-recruitment model. That distinction should be stated clearly.

Friends and Family Were Not Recruited Against the Steiners

One particularly important difference is that the eBay perpetrators did not appear to systematically recruit the Steiners’ own friends and family into the harassment campaign.

In broader GS accounts, social isolation is often described as one of the central mechanisms. Targets may believe that relatives, friends, partners, coworkers, or acquaintances have been contacted and given damaging information about them. Some describe relationships deteriorating without understanding why, while others believe people close to them have been encouraged to monitor or manipulate them.

Nothing comparable was established in the eBay prosecution. The Steiners were attacked primarily by a professional security team and by outsiders manipulated through specific tactics.

That makes eBay a narrower form of organized stalking than what many TIs describe.

Store Employees and Random Civilians Were Not Part of a Large Recruitment Network

Another difference is the role of ordinary civilians.

There is no evidence that eBay systematically recruited supermarket employees, restaurant workers, doctors, postal employees, neighbors, landlords, taxi drivers, or random pedestrians to participate knowingly in the campaign.

That type of distributed civilian participation is frequently described in GS communities, where targets report apparently coordinated behavior across ordinary environments.

However, the eBay case does demonstrate something related and important: outsiders can be used without knowing the larger purpose.

The perpetrators posted false sexual advertisements directing strangers toward the Steiners’ home and sent pornographic material to neighbors in David Steiner’s name. Those strangers and neighbors were not necessarily part of the conspiracy. They were being manipulated by the people who were.

That creates an important conceptual distinction:

  • Knowing participant: understands that they are helping harass or monitor the target.
  • Manipulated participant: performs an action because they were given false information or deliberately placed into a situation.
  • Unrelated person: simply happens to be present and has no connection to the harassment at all.

This distinction matters enormously in GS discussions. Seeing another person involved in an incident does not automatically mean that person belongs to an organized network. A real operation can manipulate outsiders without informing them about the larger plan.

Professional Core Versus Distributed Civilian Network

A useful way to compare the two models is to think about their basic structure.

The proven eBay model looked approximately like this:

  • Senior corporate hostility toward the targets.
  • Professional security personnel became involved.
  • A small group coordinated different harassment tasks.
  • Anonymous identities and deceptive methods were used.
  • Outsiders were occasionally manipulated.
  • The victims experienced the consequences.
  • Investigators eventually reconstructed the network.

The broader GS model described by many TIs is considerably larger:

  • An unidentified core organization or network.
  • Information allegedly distributed about the target.
  • Professional and civilian actors becoming involved.
  • Friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors, businesses, or institutions allegedly participating.
  • Harassment following the target across different areas of life.
  • A command structure that remains mostly hidden from the target.

The eBay case proves the first structure can exist. It does not establish the second structure on a nationwide or systematic scale.

But proving the first structure still matters, because it eliminates one very common objection: that professional, coordinated, institutionally enabled stalking simply cannot happen.

It clearly can.

The Motive Was Much Clearer in the eBay Case

The eBay case also had something many alleged GS cases lack: a clearly identifiable motive.

The Steiners were journalists publishing criticism of eBay. Certain executives became angry about their reporting. The security organization then became involved, and the harassment campaign developed from that conflict.

Investigators therefore had a logical chain to examine:

  • Critical reporting.
  • Hostility inside eBay.
  • Communications involving company personnel.
  • Security involvement.
  • Surveillance and harassment.
  • Attempts to conceal what had happened.

Many TIs cannot identify such a clear trigger. Some believe their problems began after whistleblowing, workplace conflict, family disputes, abusive relationships, political activity, contact with law enforcement, or another identifiable event. Others cannot identify any plausible starting point at all.

That uncertainty creates an evidentiary problem because motive can help investigators narrow down suspects and understand why several events might be connected.

What eBay Tells Us About How a Zersetzung-Style State Operation Could Work

The eBay case is also useful when thinking about historical programs such as East Germany’s Zersetzung. It does not prove that a modern state is currently operating such a program, but it demonstrates on a smaller institutional scale how many of the underlying mechanics can work.

Zersetzung was not simply conventional surveillance. The Stasi sought to weaken selected individuals through combinations of monitoring, reputational damage, interference with relationships and careers, psychological pressure, informants, and carefully engineered disruptions that could often appear ordinary or disconnected when viewed individually.

The eBay operation demonstrates the same basic organizational principle on a much smaller scale: the target does not need to understand the entire structure. Different participants can receive different assignments, information can be compartmentalized, legitimate institutional resources can be redirected toward an illegitimate objective, outsiders can be manipulated without understanding the larger plan, and individual incidents can initially appear unrelated.

The crucial difference is institutional reach.

A corporation can surveil someone, hire investigators, manipulate online accounts, intimidate critics, collect information, and send personnel into the physical world. eBay proved that much.

A state potentially possesses far greater capabilities because it can have lawful or practical access to systems that private actors normally do not control, including:

  • Police and security databases
  • Government records and registries
  • Administrative agencies
  • Intelligence and surveillance capabilities
  • Border and travel information
  • Social-service and employment systems
  • Regulatory powers
  • Public-sector employers
  • Official investigative mechanisms
  • Networks of informants or cooperating institutions

That is why historical Zersetzung could reach deeply into a target’s ordinary life. The Stasi was not simply a group of stalkers following someone around. It was an intelligence and security institution operating with state authority and access to an entire administrative system.

This also explains an important difference between eBay and the broader GS model described by many TIs. In the eBay case, investigators found a relatively small professional group. The victims' friends, relatives, coworkers, shop employees, doctors, and surrounding community were not shown to have been systematically recruited into the operation.

A genuine Zersetzung-style system could potentially reach far beyond that because state institutions have the ability to influence or obtain information from many otherwise separate areas of society - recruit civilians and even family and friends in the harassment-influence operation. That does not establish that such coordination is occurring in any particular modern GS case. It simply explains why a truly society-wide operation would require a much greater level of institutional power than the eBay conspiracy possessed.

And this distinction is important: organized stalking itself does not require government authority. eBay proves that. A corporation, criminal group, abusive organization, cult, or private network can coordinate surveillance and harassment.

What government authority changes is the scale, persistence, access, and ability to cross institutional boundaries.

A private organization may be able to stalk someone.

A state-security apparatus can potentially combine surveillance with administrative power, databases, informants, employment consequences, travel information, institutional credibility, and other mechanisms unavailable to ordinary private actors.

That is why eBay should not be presented as proof of a modern state-run GS program. It should instead be understood as a smaller, documented demonstration of several mechanisms that history shows can become far more extensive when backed by state power.

In other words:

eBay demonstrates the mechanism. Zersetzung demonstrates what that mechanism can become when an intelligence service has the authority and infrastructure of the state behind it.

That is a much stronger and more defensible comparison than simply claiming that the two systems are identical.

The Evidence Quality Was Dramatically Different

This is probably the most important difference between the eBay case and the average GS account.

The eBay investigation eventually produced a conventional forensic chain. Investigators could connect people, messages, travel, rental vehicles, purchases, accounts, surveillance activities, corporate communications, and efforts to destroy evidence.

The case was not proven because the Steiners simply felt watched. It was proven because investigators eventually established relationships between observable events and identifiable perpetrators.

A strong organized-stalking investigation should ideally answer questions such as:

  • Who communicated with whom?
  • Who paid for the activity?
  • Who travelled to the target’s location?
  • Which vehicles were used?
  • Which accounts sent the messages?
  • Which phone numbers or devices were connected?
  • Which people knew each other?
  • What instructions were given?
  • What physical or digital records connect one incident to another?
  • Are there witnesses who independently confirm important events?

This is the bridge that many GS cases never cross. A target may observe repeated cars, strange conversations, social hostility, workplace problems, recurring people, or unusual coincidences, but those observations do not by themselves establish coordination.

The missing element is attribution.

The eBay investigation eventually supplied that attribution.

The Victims Did Not Initially Know the Structure Either

One similarity to GS accounts is often overlooked: the Steiners did not begin with complete knowledge of the organization targeting them.

They experienced the effects first.

They received bizarre packages, hostile messages, strange advertisements, surveillance around their home, and other disturbing incidents. They did not initially possess internal eBay communications showing who had planned what.

The organizational explanation came later through investigation.

That establishes an important principle: a victim can experience the outputs of a coordinated operation before knowing its structure.

However, this must not be turned into circular reasoning. The fact that someone does not know who caused an event does not automatically prove that a secret organization caused it.

The correct position is therefore neither blind belief nor automatic dismissal. It is investigation.

“Plausible Deniability” Was Real in the eBay Case

The perpetrators also tried to make their actions difficult to trace.

Anonymous accounts were used. Deliveries came through intermediaries. Security personnel travelled using rental vehicles. Different people handled different parts of the operation. After police became involved, members of the group attempted to destroy evidence, falsify records, and mislead investigators.

That demonstrates that plausible deniability is not merely a theoretical concept.

A real harassment operation may deliberately fragment its activities so that each individual incident appears disconnected. The target may see only the separate pieces while investigators later discover the relationships between them.

This is one of the strongest similarities between the eBay case and the structure described in GS literature.

No Mind-Reading or Exotic Technology Was Necessary

Another major difference is technological.

Nothing about the eBay operation required mind-reading, V2K, neural interfaces, directed-energy weapons, or extraordinary technology.

The perpetrators created an extremely disturbing psychological experience using ordinary tools:

  • Human surveillance.
  • Social engineering.
  • Anonymous online accounts.
  • Publicly available information.
  • Professional investigative skills.
  • GPS technology.
  • Fake advertisements.
  • Threatening communications.
  • Carefully selected psychological intimidation.
  • Manipulation of third parties.

This is an important lesson for TI communities because harassment can feel impossibly sophisticated when the victim does not understand where information is coming from.

The eBay case demonstrates that a group with access to information, surveillance skills, online tools, and organizational resources can create an experience that feels pervasive without requiring anything remotely supernatural.

What eBay Proves About GS — and What It Does Not

The eBay case establishes several propositions that should no longer be controversial:

  • Multiple professionals can secretly coordinate harassment against civilians.
  • Security and intelligence personnel can abuse legitimate skills.
  • Institutional resources can be used against private individuals.
  • Physical surveillance and digital harassment can operate together.
  • Psychological intimidation can be deliberately engineered.
  • Anonymous identities can make separate incidents appear unrelated.
  • Third parties can be manipulated without understanding the overall operation.
  • Targets may initially have no idea who is behind the harassment.
  • Participants may try to destroy evidence or mislead investigators.
  • Former police officers and senior security professionals can participate in criminal harassment.
  • Participants can ultimately be prosecuted and imprisoned.
  • Organizations can face criminal and massive civil consequences.

What the case does not prove is equally important. It does not demonstrate the existence of a single nationwide GS program, prove every TI account, establish widespread recruitment of retail employees or neighbors, or validate extraordinary technological claims.

Those are additional hypotheses requiring additional evidence.

The eBay Case Should Be Viewed as a Proven Lower Boundary

This may be the best way to understand why the case matters.

Before the investigation, many people might have considered the following claims ridiculous:

  • A multinational corporation could secretly deploy security personnel against two journalists.
  • Corporate intelligence employees could travel across the country to monitor civilians.
  • Professionals could attempt to place a GPS tracker on a critic’s vehicle.
  • Employees could send grotesque psychological threats to somebody’s home.
  • A former police captain could participate.
  • Several employees could coordinate their roles while trying to hide the campaign.
  • The company could later face criminal consequences and tens of millions of dollars in civil liability.

Yet all of those propositions became part of a documented criminal case.

The eBay case therefore sets a proven lower boundary for the organized-stalking discussion. We know that coordinated, institutionally enabled stalking can reach at least this level.

The broader GS model goes considerably further. Whether it actually reaches that broader level in any particular case must still be demonstrated.

What TI Researchers Should Learn From eBay

The wrong lesson is:

“eBay happened, therefore everything ever claimed about GS is true.”

The better lesson is that evidence can transform seemingly disconnected harassment into a reconstructable conspiracy.

For anyone seriously investigating alleged organized harassment, the priorities should therefore be:

  • Preserve original messages rather than only screenshots when possible.
  • Maintain a chronological incident log.
  • Record exact dates, locations, and observable behavior.
  • Identify vehicles only when there is a legitimate evidentiary reason.
  • Preserve emails, account information, and digital metadata.
  • Note witnesses who independently observed important incidents.
  • Document workplace or institutional communications.
  • Separate direct observation from interpretation.
  • Look for connections between participants rather than assuming connections.
  • Prioritize incidents that produce strong conventional evidence.
  • Avoid confronting strangers merely because their behavior feels suspicious.
  • Use lawful reporting and investigative channels.

If the broader GS model really involves civilian recruitment, information sharing, workplace mobbing, social manipulation, and distributed surveillance, then somewhere those mechanisms should generate evidence: communications, insiders, instructions, transactions, repeated relationships, documents, or witnesses.

Those links are what matter.

The Bottom Line

The eBay case was narrower than the broader gang-stalking model described by many Targeted Individuals. The Steiners did not have an entire city recruited against them, their families were not shown to have been turned against them, ordinary store workers were not documented as conscious participants, and no extraordinary technology was involved.

But the case still proves something extremely important.

A powerful organization can secretly target private citizens. Multiple professional actors can divide harassment and surveillance roles between themselves. Security personnel can use institutional resources, anonymity, deception, psychological intimidation, and physical tracking against civilians. Outsiders can be manipulated without understanding what they are participating in. Victims can initially see only disconnected incidents while the underlying organization remains hidden.

Most importantly, investigators can eventually connect those pieces.

That is why the eBay case belongs in the GS discussion. It does not prove the entire broader TI model, but it establishes beyond serious dispute that organized, multi-person, institutionally enabled stalking and psychological harassment exist in the real world.

The remaining question is not whether coordinated stalking is possible.

The real question is how far the broader model extends — and what evidence can actually prove it.

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u/Undefined2020 — 4 days ago

What the individuals implementing and coordinating the Electronic Harassment and gang stalking said to me via V2K

These are the most hated and despised people on earth. They even V2K it to me before "Nobody likes us."

Thesy also V2k to me before, "Rest of your life" and "Nothing can stop us"

They also V2K to me before, "We are in a secret location". Glorifying how much of cowards they are, afraid to be found and getting caught.

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u/ComplexVibes20 — 6 days ago
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What is the method of communication that gang stalkers use?

How does the CIA communicate with the perps to find you and harass you? Is there a smartphone app? A forum on the dark web? There is a method of communication with all these different people.

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u/ComplexVibes20 — 6 days ago
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FCC moves to ban LiDAR-equipped foreign drones from US — classifies the technology as "military-grade" in a proposal that could also hit thermal models and the swarms used in drone light shows

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u/DuchessJulietDG — 10 days ago

Monitoring app

My bf cheated on me used to watch porn and talk to girls so now he's begging for another chance I don't want to give him another chance but he's forcing me so I get paranoid what he's doing if he's cheating or anything I need an app where I can see which app he is currently using or active in I don't want to see his screen just which app he is currently active in without him knowing like he knows I can see it but he wont know when I check it don't recommend Google link parental control I tried that it requires only one google account to be connected if I use that then I can't check his search history

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u/InvestigatorFlat8492 — 11 days ago
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Deception Management Divisions

Deception Management is who gets called when factual information gets leaked

Deniability and misdirection are critical to keeping these programs compartmentalized and out of public scrutiny. One of the most powerful tactics used today is information flooding and spreading tons of random, confusing, or off-topic content online to hide real info in the chaos. The idea is simple: if everything looks suspicious, then nothing stands out.

Flooding Forums (e.g., Reddit) with Irrelevant Content

On platforms where grassroots investigations often gain traction, targeted operations deploy bots or incentivized users to flood key subreddits (e.g., r/gangstalking r/ Targetedsolutions or niche neuroweapon groups) with loosely-related or exaggerated material. The goal isn't to hide the signal completely—but to make it indistinguishable among a sea of disinformation, satire, or incoherence.

  1. Controlled Opposition and Strawman Arguments

Deception managers may promote sensational but unverifiable stories (e.g., claims of “alien nanotech in toothpaste” or “telepathy from across the street”) to dilute legitimate discussions on cognitive weapons or neural implants. These narratives become easy to debunk, and by association, cast doubt on more grounded concerns.

  1. Algorithmic Amplification of Noise

Coordinated engagement with misleading or distracting content ensures that platforms’ algorithms boost visibility of decoy narratives. Memes, outrage bait, and hyper-personal anecdotal content drown out high-signal posts by manipulating metrics like upvotes, comments, and shares.

Weaponizing Credibility Fatigue

A deeper layer of this strategy involves what’s sometimes referred to as credibility fatigue. As users encounter dozens or hundreds of inconsistent or contradictory “truths,” a cognitive overload effect kicks in. Eventually, even the curious begin to disengage, adopting a default skepticism that benefits black-budget programs.

This creates a delay of Public Consensus: Even if fragments of the truth emerge, the flood tactic ensures slow uptake, keeping mass understanding always just out of reach.

This has been happening in this subreddit alot lately and with the lack of moderation we are unable to keep a filter on posts and users so keep in mind, this is a classified program and they do have people to take care of leaks when they do come out, as soon as they come out - with spam and discrediting.

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u/DuchessJulietDG — 10 days ago
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EBAY STALKING FOLLOW-UP: The Ex-FBI Man Who Led eBay’s Organized Stalking Campaign Said His Methods Mirrored Tactics From His FBI-Related Work

The eBay cyberstalking scandal becomes even more significant when you look at the professional background of the man prosecutors identified as the leader of the operation.

In my previous post, I described the eBay case as one of the clearest documented examples of organized stalking carried out by professional and institutionally connected actors. David and Ina Steiner, publishers of EcommerceBytes, were subjected to a coordinated campaign involving anonymous threats, disturbing deliveries, physical surveillance, attempted GPS tracking, false advertisements, psychological intimidation, and an effort to obstruct the investigation. Multiple employees and contractors participated, several corporate security officials went to prison, eBay itself faced criminal consequences, and the Steiners later received tens of millions of dollars in compensation.

What deserves more attention is the background of James Baugh, eBay’s former Senior Director of Safety and Security and the man who led the campaign.

According to Bloomberg Law, Baugh had previously worked as a federal agent and contractor for the FBI. When he was later fighting the criminal charges arising from the eBay operation, his lawyers argued that the deceptive and surveillance-related methods he was accused of using at eBay resembled techniques he had previously employed during U.S. government assignments between 2014 and 2018.

That does not mean the FBI ordered the eBay stalking campaign. There is no evidence in this reporting that the FBI participated in, approved, or even knew about the eBay operation. But the connection is still important because Baugh himself attempted to explain his professional understanding of unconventional surveillance and deception by pointing directly to his previous government work.

>SOURCE: Bloomberg Law:
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/white-collar-and-criminal-law/accused-ebay-stalker-says-he-was-just-mirroring-his-fbi-work

>My detailed eBay post: https://www.reddit.com/r/TargetedSolutions/s/BlFyxE2X3j

>eBay-case explained with entertainment: The eBay stalking scandal was a bizarre

Baugh Was Not an Amateur Harasser

James Baugh was not a random internet troll who became angry at a blogger. He was a senior corporate security executive with prior government experience. At eBay, he occupied a position responsible for safety and security, and the harassment campaign was carried out through people working in areas such as security, intelligence and corporate resiliency.

When prosecutors charged him, Baugh sought access to records concerning his previous undercover government work. His defense argued that these materials could help explain why he believed certain deceptive techniques were legitimate or necessary.

According to Bloomberg Law, Baugh claimed that his government assignments had sometimes involved conduct his lawyers described as potentially or “arguably” unlawful in isolation, but undertaken in pursuit of national-security objectives. One example discussed in the filing allegedly involved using false pretenses to arrange a meeting between a suspected foreign agent and an undercover U.S. operative posing as a business consultant.

The significance is not that undercover investigators sometimes use deception. That is already well established. The significance is that when Baugh was later accused of directing a criminal harassment and surveillance operation against civilians, his defense pointed back to that government experience as part of the explanation for how he understood unconventional security methods.

Prosecutors Rejected the Relevance of His Government Work

This distinction matters because Baugh’s argument was not accepted as proof that the eBay operation was legitimate.

Federal prosecutors argued that his previous government assignments were irrelevant because they took place before the conspiracy charged in the eBay case. The government also declined to confirm or deny the existence of the specific secret activities, agreements, instructions, or records Baugh wanted disclosed.

Therefore, this story should not be exaggerated into the claim that “the FBI trained eBay employees to gang stalk civilians.” The available evidence does not establish that.

What the reporting does establish is narrower: the leader of a documented multi-person stalking campaign had previously performed federal/FBI-related surveillance work, and when defending himself he argued that the methods he later used in corporate security reflected forms of deception he had encountered or employed during that government work.

That fact is interesting enough without inventing anything beyond it.

The Ted Gunderson Parallel

There is an older historical claim that makes this government-to-private-security connection worth examining more closely.

In 2011, former senior FBI official Ted Gunderson submitted a notarized affidavit in the Labella v. FBI litigation concerning records related to “gang stalking” and organized stalking. Gunderson had spent nearly three decades in the FBI, including leadership positions in several field offices, and later worked in the private sector as a licensed private investigator.

In that affidavit, Gunderson alleged that his investigations drew on information from current and former members of the FBI, CIA, NSA and military intelligence, as well as informants and alleged victims. More importantly for the eBay comparison, he claimed that rogue government or intelligence personnel could operate alongside private commercial and political interests, and that wealthy or powerful corporate actors could use such networks to harass people they considered enemies.

Those were Gunderson’s allegations, not judicially established facts. A federal court later reviewed his affidavit in the FOIA litigation and concluded that he had not supplied tangible evidence sufficient to substantiate his claims about FBI involvement in a nationwide gang-stalking system. That qualification matters.

But the eBay case gives one narrower part of this discussion a very concrete modern context.

Gunderson was describing a concern about people with government, intelligence or law-enforcement backgrounds moving into other environments and potentially applying surveillance expertise on behalf of private interests. Years later, the eBay case produced a documented criminal example in which a former federal agent and FBI contractor became the security chief of a major corporation and then led a coordinated stalking and intimidation campaign against civilians whose speech angered powerful executives.

That does not prove Gunderson’s broader theory. It does show why the underlying government-to-private-security pipeline should not simply be laughed away.

People leave intelligence agencies, police departments and federal service and enter corporate security, investigations, risk management and private intelligence. They take their professional training, operational experience and investigative mindset with them. Normally that expertise is used lawfully. The eBay case demonstrates what can happen when it is not.

Here, senior people at a massive corporation viewed critical journalists as a problem. The company’s security apparatus became involved, and the resulting operation included anonymous identities, deception, surveillance, psychological intimidation, cross-country physical monitoring, an attempted GPS installation and efforts to conceal evidence afterward.

Baugh’s own defense then pointed back to his previous government work when attempting to explain his familiarity with unconventional methods.

That is the connection worth examining. Not “the FBI ran the eBay operation.” Not “Gunderson therefore proved every GS claim.”

Rather, something much more defensible: surveillance expertise can migrate from government service into private security, and the eBay prosecution demonstrates that such expertise can be criminally abused on behalf of powerful private interests.

In this case, those interests were senior figures inside a major corporation who were enraged by critical journalism and wanted the perceived problem dealt with. That is precisely why the professional backgrounds of the people conducting organized harassment matter.

The Government-to-Corporate Security Pipeline Deserves Attention

The broader issue here is the movement of security expertise between government institutions and private corporations.

People routinely move between military service, law enforcement, intelligence work, federal contracting, private investigations, corporate security and risk management. When they move, they do not suddenly forget everything they learned. They carry professional habits, contacts, techniques and assumptions with them.

That obviously does not mean that former government employees are inherently abusive or that ordinary corporate-security work is sinister. Most people working in these fields are not running illegal harassment campaigns.

But it does mean that sophisticated surveillance and influence techniques are not confined forever inside government buildings.

The eBay case provides an unusually clear example of what can happen when a powerful corporation treats critics as a security problem and then turns experienced security personnel loose on them.

Baugh had government-related surveillance experience. He later occupied a senior corporate-security role. When eBay executives became intensely hostile toward critical reporting, the security organization under him developed an operation involving covert identities, deception, surveillance, psychological intimidation and attempts to conceal responsibility.

When the operation later became a federal criminal case, Baugh himself pointed back toward his government experience.

That sequence deserves serious examination.

Turning Critics Into “Threats”

Another important aspect of the case is how targets can be reframed as threats.

According to Baugh’s defense filing, eBay’s security organization viewed criticism surrounding EcommerceBytes and an associated Twitter account as posing a serious threat to company executives and their families. His lawyers suggested that the security operation was therefore motivated by a perceived need to protect those executives.

This is important because abusive operations are rarely described internally in straightforward language such as: “We are going to terrorize innocent people because they criticized us.”

Instead, the target is reclassified.

A journalist becomes a “security concern.” A critic becomes an “existential threat.” Surveillance becomes “intelligence gathering.” Pressure becomes “risk mitigation.” Deception becomes an “unconventional method.” Once the target has been reframed as dangerous, increasingly aggressive actions can begin to appear justified inside the group carrying them out.

The Steiners were ultimately two journalists publishing material that eBay executives disliked. Yet the response escalated into a campaign involving anonymous harassment, surveillance of their home, cross-country travel by security personnel, attempted GPS tracking, grotesque deliveries and efforts to hide the operation from investigators.

That escalation is one of the most important lessons of the entire case.

eBay Allegedly Turned to Baugh for “Less Conventional” Methods

Baugh’s defense made another striking allegation about why management relied upon him.

The filing reported by Bloomberg Law claimed that eBay’s General Counsel had advised executives and Baugh that ordinary legal tools were unlikely to solve the perceived problem involving the newsletter and related online activity. According to Baugh’s lawyers, executives therefore turned to him to address the problem through less conventional means.

Again, this was an argument advanced by Baugh’s defense and should be identified as such rather than treated automatically as a proven judicial finding.

Nevertheless, the allegation is notable because we already know from the subsequent criminal case what members of the security organization actually did.

A corporation became angry about critical speech. Security and intelligence personnel became involved. Different participants were assigned different roles. Anonymous accounts were used. The targets were monitored physically. Psychological intimidation was deliberately created. Attempts were made to track their vehicle. When police became involved, participants tried to conceal the evidence and misdirect the investigation.

Whatever internal vocabulary was used, the resulting conduct became a criminal stalking conspiracy.

Why This Matters to the Organized-Stalking Discussion

The eBay case is valuable to discussions about organized stalking precisely because it does not require exotic explanations.

There was no need to prove mind-reading, supernatural influence, V2K or science-fiction technology. Investigators reconstructed the campaign through ordinary forensic evidence: communications, accounts, purchases, deliveries, vehicle records, travel, surveillance activity, corporate records and testimony.

What initially appeared to the victims as a collection of bizarre and frightening incidents eventually became a traceable organizational structure.

Different people had different roles. Some operated anonymous accounts. Others arranged threatening deliveries. Others travelled to Massachusetts. Others conducted physical surveillance. There was an attempted GPS installation. There were discussions about property damage. There were attempts to manufacture explanations and conceal evidence.

That is what an evidence-based organized-stalking case looks like after investigators successfully reconstruct it.

The important lesson is not that every TI claim should therefore be believed automatically. It is almost the opposite: the eBay case demonstrates the extraordinary value of concrete, independently verifiable evidence.

A serious case should move from suspicion toward documentation.

Who did what? When? Where? Which accounts were used? Which vehicles? Which messages? Which payments? Which witnesses? Which people communicated with one another? What can be independently corroborated?

That is how disconnected incidents become an investigable pattern.

What This New Information Does — and Does Not — Establish

It is important to keep the conclusion proportional to the evidence.

The Bloomberg reporting does not establish that the FBI participated in the eBay campaign. It does not establish the existence of a universal government-directed TI program. It does not validate every claim made within targeted-individual communities, and it does not support extraordinary technological claims for which there is no corresponding evidence.

What it does establish is significant enough: James Baugh, the senior corporate-security official who led a real multi-person stalking campaign, had previously worked as a federal agent and FBI contractor. When prosecuted, his own defense sought to connect his approach to deceptive surveillance methods he said he had previously used during government assignments.

That raises legitimate questions about the transfer of methods and professional culture between government security work and private corporate security.

There is no need to turn that into something larger than the available evidence supports.

His Background Did Not Protect Him

Whatever Baugh believed he had learned about unconventional security methods, his professional history did not give him immunity when those methods were directed unlawfully against civilians.

The eBay operation was exposed, participants cooperated with investigators, internal evidence was reconstructed, and the security officials involved faced serious legal consequences. Baugh ultimately received a substantial federal prison sentence. Other members of the security organization were convicted as well, including a former police captain.

The broader eBay case eventually resulted in criminal consequences for the company itself and a civil settlement worth tens of millions of dollars for the Steiners.

That is an equally important lesson.

Security experience does not legalize stalking. A government background does not provide immunity. A prestigious corporate title does not erase individual responsibility. Calling somebody a threat does not remove their rights. And techniques that might have legitimate uses during properly authorized intelligence or law-enforcement operations do not automatically remain legitimate when redirected against private citizens because powerful people dislike their speech.

The Bigger Lesson

The deeper you examine the eBay case, the more instructive it becomes.

It demonstrates that coordinated harassment can be carried out by educated professionals working inside a respected corporation. It demonstrates that institutional resources can be misused against private citizens. It demonstrates that participants can divide responsibilities between themselves, conceal identities and initially make individual incidents appear disconnected.

The additional Bloomberg reporting adds another important layer: the man at the center of the operation had previous federal/FBI-related experience and later attempted to contextualize the methods he used by referring to techniques from that earlier government work.

That does not prove a government conspiracy behind eBay.

What it does demonstrate is that the boundary between government security expertise and private corporate security is not absolute. People, knowledge and techniques move between those worlds. When those capabilities are misused, the consequences for ordinary civilians can be severe.

The strongest response is therefore neither automatic belief nor automatic dismissal.

It is investigation.

Document the incidents. Preserve the original evidence. Identify the participants. Trace the communications. Reconstruct the timeline. Separate what can be demonstrated from what is merely suspected.

That is ultimately what destroyed the eBay operation.

Not speculation.

Evidence.

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EXTRA INFORMATION

The DOJ moved to SEAL the letter Baugh wrote to the case is United States vs. Baugh. They also sealed some other court dockets, meaning it would take a judge to review them in camera (judge's eyes only) if anyone wanted to reference the sealed documents later.

Baugh wrote that he did all of this extensive disgusting campaign work regularly for the FBI and the CIA, so taking said skillset to a large corporation like eBay was a no-brainer, plus the fact that the CEO of eBay at the time came from Reuters, a major NEWS and LEGAL SOURCE provider. Baugh even said that he was specifically put there by the CIA to recruit the executives to do recon for them, but honestly there were a lot of data scraping and mining the CIA did and later passed to the intelligence communities to keep building dossiers on everyone, including foreign intelligence actors, but mainly US consumers as well.

FINALLY, Baugh was supposed to testify in open court that would support the Steiners in their case. However, that testimony never happened. The case was settled under non-disclosed sum, and quietly killed/swept away as it had already hit the 60 Minutes and major news outlets. And everyone just moved on like NOTHING HAPPENED.

You know why? This case, among others like it, would have been the precedent needed to show just how far intelligence agencies, even their ex members, are willing to go to intimidate and keep their power and $. They don't really work for the American people at large like you and me, but giant corporate nutcases like Musk, or intelligence developing assets like Epstein.

When you make the connections, it all establishes a framework part of a larger machinery marching this country to its doom.

The WORST part about it is how fast the judiciary folds for these psyop based threats. Read about how a federal judge was intimidated by them using their dead kid's name for a pizza delivery.

>Source: https://archive.is/iVGeu

u/Undefined2020 — 13 days ago