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Democracy Without Education Is Dangerous
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Democracy Without Education Is Dangerous

Socrates argued that just giving everyone an equal say without ensuring they are educated, rational, and morally trained, would eventually lead to chaos and poor leadership.

His student Plato explored this idea further in The Republic, where he compared governing a state to steering a ship:

"Would you let just anyone steer a ship or would you choose someone trained and knowledgeable?”

(– Plato’s Republic, Book VI)

> My view is simple:

“Democracy is the best form of government only when people are educated and aware.”

And honestly, this issue becomes even more relevant when we look at the behavior and statements of many MPs and MLAs in India. (Just remember that Karnataka Congress MLA incident 🤡)

People responsible for making laws and representing millions should at least meet basic standards of education, civic understanding, and public conduct.

Democracy gives everyone the right to vote but those who govern should also undergo proper political training, ethical orientation, and accountability. Leadership is not just about winning elections; it is about wisdom, responsibility, and public character.

Citizen education is equally important in a democracy because people can choose better leaders only when they are politically aware, informed, and capable of critical thinking. In countries like India, where many people still struggle with poverty, inequality, and poor access to quality education, voting often becomes influenced by short-term incentives such as money, caste loyalties, religious polarization, or populist promises. In such conditions, democracy risks becoming a game of manipulation rather than informed public participation. This is why education is not just important for economic growth, but also essential for building a healthier and more responsible democracy.

u/AnneShirleyCuthbert_ — 1 day ago
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Do you agree with such sentiment?

Is aluminium production via electrolysis "left" or "right"?

Neither. It's a technology, derived thanks to science, and having a goal to get aluminium from what we have.

And a science and technology, specialised on societal development, and having further societal development as its goal, would be exactly as "left" or "right" as aluminium production via electrolysis.

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u/Icy-External8155 — 3 days ago
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Do humans actually need rulers, or are we just used to being ruled?

I’ve always been skeptical of governments, leaders, and any system where a small group holds overwhelming power over everyone else.

Not because I think every government is evil.
It’s more that I keep asking myself:

When did humans collectively accept that millions of people always need a handful of people to tell them what direction society should go?

Do people truly need leadership?
Or have we simply become dependent on it because modern civilization became too big and complicated?

Sometimes I try to imagine what Earth would look like without these large centralized power structures.

No supreme authority.
No permanent ruling class.
No institution deciding what is “correct” for everyone.

Would society completely fall apart?
Or would people eventually find new ways to organize themselves naturally?

Maybe communities would become smaller and more human again.
Maybe technology and global connectivity could replace parts of traditional government structures.
Maybe real collective intelligence forms better from the bottom up than from the top down.

But maybe the opposite is also true.

Without systems, laws, and coordination, human beings might become even more tribal, violent, and fearful.

That’s why I don’t think this is a simple question.
I’m not trying to promote chaos or argue that civilization itself is bad.

I’m just wondering whether centralized authority is truly something humanity will always need,
or whether it’s simply a stage of civilization that we haven’t evolved past yet.

What if the systems we see as “normal” today are only temporary forms of human organization?

u/biliby8172 — 5 days ago
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Marx was wrong about materialism being the sole driver of human behavior. As an individual with good life standards, people have still been evil as fuck and hirearchal as shit with me.

when I was a kid I wanted to escape this psychological jungle and be a libertarian so I'd get super rich and escape. I wanted money to be free. I became a socialist after seeing systemic issues failing me. bit honestly, even if I had the socialism, the root of my problem is PEOPLE. them and their stupid consiousness . it was pathetic.

when life was bad I turned to spirituality. people told me i was stupid and showed me random crazy people with crystals talking weird and nonsense. bug I'm into a logical ontological spirituality. whatever was logical. the super scientific materialist skeptic reddit atheist chud just laughed at my face whenever I started to extrapolate on the implications of quantum feild theory, dark matter, dark energy, qualia, Ce5 meditation which summons ufos, my telepathic contact with my ex, gravity, all that.

still. my enemies were all around me. only me was able to trust in myself. a child with a burning torch surrounded by wolves . the spiritual metaphysical rape was real. holy fucking shit.

anyways I became hyper independent of myself emotionally. at great cost. still . if my life was even a little harder I'd be in prison now for abusing people. thats a truith.

sigh.

so my argument is. consciousness is the thing we need to all focus on. that is all. because once you unfold the "veil" you may or may not be aware exists, and not ignore it. you become aware to "more" what is it? Idk but I can summon orbs with ce5 meditation so theres that.

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u/SkyBoundAssumption — 5 days ago
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I have become a technocrat because live studied countless timelines in my economic maps

every system needs to be ran logically and efficiently. allowing leeway freedom and structural systems in. politicians should be skilled. otherwise you gain populist leaders and other nonsense. you need scientists, pshycologists, engineers, all that to do the technological side but the social side cannot be overtly controlled.

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u/SkyBoundAssumption — 6 days ago
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Can we label Integral Collective as a decentralized technocratic project?

Integral Collective comes from ideas from the Zeitgeist Movement, which was already an extension of The Venus Project. The Venus Project and its ideas came from the original Technocracy Incorporated.

So, can we just say that it is a decentralized technocratic economic system?

What is the definition of technocracy, and can we label it as a decentralized technocracy?

So, what do you think?

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u/maverick_v2-0 — 6 days ago
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Is the middle class and the modern western democracy coming to an end?

Is the middle class and the modern western democracy coming to an end?

I don't mean tomorrow or in ten years but are we slowly moving towards some other type of governance? Historically the last 100-150 years have been an anomaly where the wealth has been spread a bit more equally and we have seen a more democratic society (in the west at least). Moving in to this future of AI and robotics the elite won't have any use for human labor and thus no need to share their wealth or their power.

Looking back at different historical eras, we discuss with ease that this period started and that period ended. Are we at an end of such a period now?

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u/Shibes_oh_shibes — 7 days ago
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Background: I've been thinking about this for a while, and came up with a proposal for a participatory parallel governance platform including an incentive layer.

I honestly believe this (or something similar) is a really good and relatively easy shot at solving a lot of our problems, starting from reducing political apathy, increasing community cohesion to solving AI alignment & global BioSec threats.

However - While I have been able to get a few people to look into it a bit more, and did receive good feedback from them - most others that I show this to just seem to glance at it and discard the idea (or don't even look at it at all. I don't know, as most of this communication is online async).
This makes me think that either I'm living in my bubble and this proposal isn't good, there are some fundamental flaws that I can't see, etc...
Or I'm just promoting it wrong, writing about it wrong, don't make it accessible enough, ...

Before I go and build a nice explainer website or prototype etc to try to get more interest, I wanted to check with this community to critique it and tell me why this legitimately might not work (kind of like CMV). Or where else the flaws are (better writing, explanations, etc).

Note that the document has multiple tabs, each one offering an increasingly detailed explanation.

Appreciate all honest feedback 🙏

u/derjogi83 — 8 days ago
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Global power clubs with exclusive membership, structural privileges, and limited alternatives.

These systems are not just organizations; they are stability mechanisms for global order. They prevent chaos, but also freeze historical power distributions.
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u/Maleficent-Dress-735 — 10 days ago
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Would a society run by AGI be considered a technocracy?

If baseline technocracy is just experts running society, and a super intelligent AI were running things, would you consider this a technocracy?

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u/SuddenEducation442 — 14 days ago