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I dont know what to think of Garth. I've watched up until the last episode this week, but haven't read the books. Please help- I want clarity about what's going through his brain if there is any clarity to be had.

Garth seemed like a good potential character at first. I like that he is compassionate to Agnes. But sometimes it feels like he favors Daisy more. Maybe because they're working together. He rushed over and asked if she was hurt after finding out about the doctor. But didnt care that other girls were hurt!!! It was all about the mission.

He seemed to value the exchanges with Agnes so maybe he has a crush?? But he didnt even say "I wish it was you" when she confronted him about his engagement to Becka. Im annoyed that he is so willing to go along with Gilead and theres not evidence that he's actively fighting against them. He got the wrapper of some chocolate to someone? Okay??? Then what???

And then when Becka is taken by the Eyes, he didnt even fight against his role. He didnt give Agnes a dirty look or try to get Becka out of there. I get he has a cover he doesnt want or need to blow, but theres just no evidence that he cares for people enough. He wants to bring Gilead down, and my current perception is that there is no compassion for anyone trapped within the cult.

Gilead is so much like present day Afganistan. It is a government by a few power hungry perverted men, setting up a system to abuse, suppress and violate women. This happens because ordinary men and women fervently hope for a religious govt, where their religion is in control.

It always goes wrong, Afghanistan and Iran are all examples. It doesn't matter, which religion, every religion is capable of this.

The casting crew for this series is amazing, the talent is just unbelievable. Each of these girls are perfect in such a way that they are not doing too much or too less. For once the acting is not cringe or anything. I like how most of them are fresh talent, almost new faces on the screen. I first saw chase on one battle never saw Matteo or Lucy on TV or anywhere. I have seen rowan on Disney and she somehow disappeared on the screen. The casting director had it all right with this casting and it's amazing to watch.

everyone keeps talking about Agnes’ family and their high position within Gilead, yet all i’ve seen her dad do this season is ponder the circumstances (aside from getting Becka taken away). can someone please help me understand what makes MacKenzie so important in Gilead?

PS - never read the books, just really enjoying this show.

The silhouette of the black figures that take Beck’s into the van at the end of the episode look similar to the aunts we see in the airport in DC in THT season 3 episode 6 around min 49. Of course they weren’t black but maybe that style of uniform is for the aunts that preform roles similar to guardian/eyes? Id love to hear everyone’s ideas about Becka’s future. Surely she has too much plot armor to become a handmaid or get killed.

I am fascinated by the female eyes/soldiers/police that came for Becca. Who are they? What are their lives like?

I hope we see more of them. Maybe one of the girls would become one. Shu would be a perfect eye since she notices everything and may not be fertile.

That ending scene with Becka in this week’s episode was so so heartbreaking. It also reminded me strongly of the ending of The Handmaid’s Tale book, when the eyes come for June and wordlessly usher her into the van, and Nick tells her to go with them. I know many people hate the comparison of Garth with Nick but his role reminds me so much of book Nick. I wonder if he will try to protect Becka somehow… I feel so sad for her 😭

Daisy will inevitably get outed out as a spy, we will have a time jump, baby Nicole is going to become teenager Nicole and infiltrate Gilead, developing the rest of the book's plot. Red herring scenario basically.

They already insured themselves by saying her actual name is Marguerite

I’ve noticed in TT that the shades of blue that the wives wear differs between households. I’m sure that in THT there were some differences in how vivid a wife’s clothing was (compared to Serena) but it was all consistently the blue/teal colour.

In TT there is everything from navy through light blue - do we think it’s based on command/status or age or something else (maybe even personal choice, put that doesn’t feel very Gilead to me)?

First and foremost can we give Matte her flowers. Her performance this episode was AMAZING!

So here’s my theory, although Daisy didn’t have a plan post her Grove allegation stunt. I think it may possibly work in Becka’s favour.

What if she claims her dad (Dr Grove) tried to touch her and she stabbed him as a retaliation. He’d already been reported by Hulda. So the aunts and Judd know he has the potential to do it. >!They’ve also clearly adapted what Paula’s character did in the book for Becka’s character in the show.!<

So I’m thinking, they use this a a moment of psychosis to rehabilitate her traumas and she eventually becomes an aunt.

I’m usually pretty good at separating a show from real life but this episode (episode 9) was intense. Did anyone else cry?

I have so many thoughts.

1. I don’t think I like Garth now.
2. I don’t know what else Agnes could have done but I wasn’t really expecting her to tell her parents.
3. Are the really taking her to die? I am just hoping that these people were made to look lile eyes but are actually getting her out. But judging by Garth’s anguished face, it probably is the eyes.

I haven’t read any other posts yet but I’m curious to know other theories and ideas. This episode really got to me.

Warning: This thread will have spoilers up through episode 9 of season 1.

After that banger of an episode, how do you think they’re going to wrap things up in the finale?

We know Becka was taken, and we know that her captors were supposedly the Eyes, but they obviously didn’t look like any Eyes we’ve ever seen before! I had a moment where I thought Garth was under Mayday instructions to get her out of Gilead, but he looked absolutely terrified when she was being taken 😭

In episode 9 when Becka arrives at the MacKenzie home, why is the only light source a lantern? There’s a working kitchen in the home so… ???

Maybe you all can help with a few questions?
I know the colors of clothing are different for each role in society. Plums are purple, Pearls are white, Wives are teal, Martha’s are gray, etc. I am trying to figure out the reasoning behind the specific colors? Why are the Plums purple? What does the purple represent? What’s the meaning behind the teal for the Wives?

Of course Becka was going to go off the deep end! These girls have been part of "salvagings" for so long, that violence is the only language they know! They've seen men punished for their deviant behavior, so Becka did the only thing she knew and punished her father!

I think based on everything leading up to episode 9 with Paula and the very end of the episode when she is standing there with Agnes and her dad while Becka is taken by the “eyes,“ there’s more to her evilness. I think it’s survival and knowledge of the before times, and perhaps, womanhood? This is a woman who has clearly expressed in earlier episodes that she had childhood trauma from her father, we have no idea what her life was before she was matched with Commander Mackenzie (after his first wife‘s death). She seems to get giddy in prior episodes when she talks about the “before times,” (her prom, etc).

I watched her face as Garth came in to get Becka, she was uncomfortable, and I don’t think she was uncomfortable with Becka. I think she knew what was really happening and her facial expression leads me to think she was dismayed at what she knew was Becka’s fate. She is trying to teach Agnes (albeit in a totally misguided/borderline abusive approach) how to survive in Gilead. You marry a high ranking commander, you do what he says and you will be fine, is what she is trying to teach Agnes. Then when Agnes realizes that her father called the eyes Paula says “of course he did!” The tone was less like I stand by him and more like “what did you think would happen to your friend?” Like her tough approach to Agnes is more about her not trusting anyone and not wanting Agnes to trust anyone or be naive either.

I’m not trying to add decency to her character or her actions, but reading between the lines at what she’s actually putting out there. I don’t think this makes her any better of a person, just it’s more nuanced. Again, not a Paula defense post.

I'm sorry for those who like Agnes/Garth better but don't tell me there isn't chemistry between these two!

For me, "Marate Sade" was the season's best episode! I have been through all the emotions (it was a lot)... It's quite a huge compliment from me because till now I've watched the show just to see Garth and Daisy moments (shame on me)...

I truly hope not to be disappointed for the season finale next week (in general, the showrunners want big unexpected cliffhangers too much and mess with the viewers' wishes) and to have an episode as good as this one or even better (who knows?)!

In the meantime, let's share our favorite episode and most importantly WHY it's our favorite!

Gilead is 10-12 years old based on the age of Hannah/Agnes. Aunt Estee admits she’s the first ever pearl girl to come into Gilead. She’s not super young, as the aunts (Gabanna, Vidala, and Estee) seem to be around their early 30s or so. So why would an adult enter Gilead willingly?

My theory is she was raped by Weston in “America.” She got out during the regime shift, but her baby (Daisy) was left behind in Gilead. Aunt Estee is looking for her baby. Thats also why she was so upset with herself after Daisy went to the dentist office. She knows what it’s like to be assaulted.

The theory continues that Daisy is eventually snuck out of Gilead into Canada and raised by Neal and Melanie. That’s why Gilead wants her back so much.

Aunt Estee eventually immigrates into Gilead (during her young 20’s) to look for her daughter? Where else would her daughter possibly be? But a school for the young girls of Gilead. She gets eventually a position of an Aunt (in her 30s). She then spends years waiting for her daughter.

Aunt Lydia has the lineages of all the girls, and she knows Weston is Daisy’s father. But doesn’t know who her mother is. Estee will tell her something and everything will click for Lydia how to take down Gilead.

Thank you, there are probably 15 million holes in this theory, but imma be so happy when it’s right.