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The writers have said that they like to think of KC as part of all 3 founding families but KC is not an Augustine. Kat being married to Elliot and KC forming a bond with him would not make her an Augustine.

Maybe the writers meant it in a metaphorical way, like KC is the one that unites all the founding families together but that is not true for the Augustine side. Kat and Elliot would have ended up together whether Jacob and Abby got together or not. So the quote in my opinion is quite misleading.

Hello fellow residents of Port Haven. Let me admit this my husband told me he thinks I'm weird. The song Fern song Dreams. See you in my dreams has actually been helping me sleep. I acute insomnia I can go 3 to 4 days no sleep. But her voice this song along with my sleeping meds is actually working. This show is XANADU magical and mystical.

Thanks to whomever ✍🏾 wrote the song and the angel young Fern singing it

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I had made a couple of posts with lists of lingering questions before the finale. I guess many didn't get definitive answers because they aren't really that important to the story. I have consolidated the lists and the following are some the things I am still curious about.

1. KC is part Augustine, Landry and Goodwin according to the show runners. (Jacob - Landry Abby - Goodwin) Where does the Augustine part come from? My guess is Sam's ex wife was an Augustine or Sam was half Augustine. He said he had ties to the area. And their daughter was married to Lewis. Or simply, Lewis was married to a decendant of Mo.

2. Why did Sam lie about going to Toronto to the parole court case to keep Calvin Prentice in jail? He said he was going to visit his kids. Why not just say he was going to do both? Why was it a secret? Why not mention the trial? This upset Del when Rita showed Del the newspaper story about the trial? Was the purpose to have Del be upset with Sam and cause tension between them? Del was already upset at the time about Colton not telling her about the pond, so this had even more of an impact.

3. Was there any point to the Calvin Prentice trial other than to establish that Sam was a lawyer in Toronto? Or was this an abandoned storyline? I think at one point we were told we were going to explore more of Del's history. Since this was a financial crime and Del and Evelyn's fathers had business together, I think this was meant for a season where they introduced the era of Colton, Evelyn and Del’s parents - one of the 2 ERAs we are missing.

4. Why was the address of Lingermore, 18 LeBlanc Ridge? This was Noah and Wally's last name. Were they in a founding family also?

5. Did Lewis know about the pond? Did he leave the film reel with Kat on it purposely running and leave to take a phone call so that Alice would see it?

6. Grayson commissioned a mural of him and his sister, Cassandra, being watched over by the White Witch at Lingermore? What was Cassandra's experience with The White Witch?

7. Was it a coincidence that the Lingermore pool looked like a mini pond replica complete green water and lily pads? There is a statue fountain of 3 women and a statue of a little boy with pond ferns encircling his lower legs. I had theorized that Lingermore was built over a spring line that also supplied water to the pond.

8. Fern's brother, Frankie, was MIA and presumed dead and his body wasn't recovered in the War. Was he a deseeter that went AWOL through the pond

9. Why does the clock play "Beautiful Dreamer"? Why does Fern make a point of singing it to adult and baby Kat? Beautiful Dreamer is a song about someone being called away from the ordinary world into a dreamlike realm. The lyrics blur the line between reality, memory, and another place or time. Are the characters able to communicate with one another in their dreams? Is this how Thomas knows the house is blue?

10. There are at least 2 scenes where Colton is talking with Del after his death and we are shown shots of just a mirror with Del and Colton’s reflection in the mirror as they are talking to one another. Why show that reflection. Usually, when a mirror is shown in a scene with an imaginary person, the imaginary person doesn't have a reflection. Is Colton somehow actually communicating with Del?

11. What is the significance of 11:11? 11:11 is said to be the best time to make a wish. 11:11 Angel time and a thin space between eras and the symmetry represents the time when past, present and future line up. Is 11: 11 the best time to enter the still point of now. The still point of now is a state of consciousness or awareness. It's the experience of being fully present, where the mind isn't occupied with the past or future. Or it could be a space that exists outside of time?

Liminal spaces are often found in sci fi and could represent the still point of now:

Harry Potter Kings Cross Station

Interstellar – The Tesseract ( Tessa)

Dr Who - The Time Vortex

The Umbrella Academy - The Subway

Dark Matter - The Box and The Hallway

12 Monkeys - The Red Forest

12. Why can't Del locate Griffin? Where has Griffin been since 2000? We don't know where Griffin has beem since early 2000's.

This is what we know:

Season 4 Episode 1

Del: Griffin left long before Tessa, and he came back for other visits after she was already gone. Believe me, I've been looking for him. Griffin Landry doesn't want to be found, even if he still alive.

Later:

Kat: Okay. I give up. I am hitting the same walls as mom has in this search for Griffin. There is literally no sign of him past the early 2000s.

He may have been TTing all that time and he may have discovered some nice hidden features about TT and the pond.

13. Does Jacob tell Danny the truth about the pond and does Danny believe him if he does? I really want to see that conversation 🤣 . I think a practicle demonstration is the only thing that would work.

14. Does Jacob tell Abby about the pond? I think he has to in order to explain Lewis's blackmail accusation.

15. KC told Alice that they just wanted to have fun before everything changed. Since they have their mom's ring, are their parents divorcing? This would mirror Alice as she was fighting with her parents and was upset by her parents splitting up. She went to the pond and threw her mom's bracelet in and fell in trying to retrieve it. (Colton fell in after arguing with his mom, throwing his back pack in and trying to retrieve it.) Did Abby pass away?

16. Was there any significance to any of the objects?

There are just so many objects. Everyone seems to have one tied to them:

Augustine ring - with the Augustine compass rose

passed from Sussanah, through the Augustine family to Tessa and now to Kat

Evelyn's bumblebee - now on Max's keychain

Griffin's pocket watch or compass - It was interesting that Grandma Fern suggested that Colton add the pocket watch/compass that Griffin sent to him to the time capsule. That made me think it was going to be needed in 2026. Tessa seems to know how events unfold, putting the watch in the capsule could be a way of ensuring it survives until it's needed.

Most time capsules contain items that represent everyday life, culture, and important memories from the time the capsule was buried. Colton had just received that pocket watch/compass. A time capsule is normally meant to preserve a record of the past. But Griffin's object feels more like something intended to be retrieved and used in the future.

Alice's fish hook bracelets given to her by Nick

Tessa and Fern's matching bracelets with a key

Kat's wedding ring - KC has one and so does Alice

The bracelet Bradv gave Kat - Alice threw it in the pond before her first trip and the pond returned it.

Cyrus (or Thomas's) pistol from the 1800's - Kat puts in the PH Hearld office.

17. Who was Evelyn waiting for in her wheelchair by the window with her binoculars? Was it Alice? Was she just on the lookout for Landry time travelers?

18. Why was Fern so coincidentally by the pond when Kat and Alice TTed to the past? She told Alice she had less direction that any time traveler she had ever met. How many time travelers had she met?

19. Was Stormy just a plot device to bring Sam and Del together? Was Stormy getting spooked by someone walking by the pond just a storyline to have Del realize that she loves Sam and for her to move on?

20. Who was the man walking by the rock at the entrance to the path to the pond?

21. What was Tessa's family background? She said it wasn't a family that recorded generations in am Almanac. Were they carnival/circus people? She told Evie she was learning to palm read. How many places can you learn to do that? Were they Coyle's? Did the moons on her poster point to the Coyles?

22. When Tessa shot the gun in the tunnels, who was aiming at? Did she fire accidently?

23. Who was watching the broadcast of the News report of Jacob's rescue in the past in the Landry family room? Who taped it and took the VHS tape to the past?

24. Was there a significance to all of the moon references? The Circus in 1925 that Tessa is a part of is called the Hunter's Moon Circus. Colton dies during a Snow Moon. Colton tells Del to look at the moon before he leaves for his grief meeting. Alice arrives the first time during a pink moon. Is it because the moon had an effect of bodies of water? There are books in both Elliot and the Landry bookshelves by Keeley Coyle with Moon in the title.

25. Jasper has always intrigued me. I doubt we learn anything else about him but he was shockingly helpful.

When Jasper got to town, he got a job with the town council, a job that gave his access to the town's archives.

He just happened to have a tape from a town meeting about filling in the pond after Colton and Evie almost drowned 9 years earlier in his hippie van. How much room is in a hippie van that he thought he should keep that tape? And shouldn't those tapes be in a town council archive somewhere?

He befriended Fern and took her fashion magazines from the 1920s. How much did Fern tell Jasper about Time Travel?

When Kat got to town, Jasper happened to be driving past and offered wet Kat, fresh out of the pond, a ride.

Jasper told her that he had become a surrogate father to Colton since his dad died and his brother bailed.

Jasper. filmed Kat and Alice in the past and figured out that Kat was Alice's mom.

The pond story is pretty amazing and Thomas probably passed it down! I can't think of a reason Thomas could have to not pass it down. I really think Jasper knew what's up with the pond.

Jasper pointed out that history is often recorded in the art if the times. His booklet had a symbol on the back that seemed to represent the Coyles, Goodwins and Augustines. There is a Ship for the Goodwins, a moon for the Coyles on the shape of a C and the Augustine compass rose. Could KC stand for Katherine Coyle?

Jasper pointed out certain songs at pertinent times:

"By the Light of the Moon" - could have been written by Thomas and helped with the night of the eclipse.

"Fare the Well" - could have been written by Thomas.

The interesting one on this season was

"Five Went In".

Who could have written it and how did Jasper get a copy of it?

26. Besides finding Tessa, what reason did the pond have for sending Kat to the 1920's?

Kat says the following about the 1920's:

"The pond didn't bring me here just to find Tessa."

This seems like a parallel with Alice. Alice watches Del and Colton kiss after Del gets off the boat and she muses to herself, if Del and Colton don't need my help, why did the pond bring me here." Then she looks beside her at Evelyn who is upset at seeing Del and Colton kiss and Alice says, "Oh, I'm here to help you".

Did the pond take Kat there to help Fern?

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27. Did KC enlist Sam's help to get Jacob to go to Toronto? Did Sam gave Jacob the money to go to Toronto?

When Jacob left for Toronto, he reassured Del not to worry because he had some money. At the time, that seemed like a small detail, but it may have been more important than we realized.

Jacob needed to go to Toronto because that's where he was meant to meet Abby. Later, Sam tells Del that he knew Jacob would be okay. What's interesting is that he says this to Del on the phone while standing by the pond, watching KC jump in—a scene that closely mirrors Alice's jump into the pond while Elliot talks to Kat on the other end of the phone. Perhaps KC emlisted Sam's help and told Sam that Jacob would be fine. That would explain how Jacob got the money and Sam's certainty that everything would work out.

Sam and KC's relationship parallels Elliot and Sam's relationship.

Sam was KC's Elliot. KC gave Sam future knowledge and Sam helped KC. Sam and Elliott told KC and Alice the same thing. I will always be able to help you whenever you need in any time.

28. Why was Cliff's hat look completely clean and unharmed when Mo showed it to Tessa.

29. Did Tessa escape to Lingermore through the door that Grayson showed Kat through earlier to enter the tunnels?

30. Does Fern know that Elliot survived the gun shot? Does someone go back to let Fern know? Do they go back for Tessa?

I think that when Alice visits Granda Fern and asks her why she told Tessa she would kill her son, Fern said that because she needed Tessa to jump in order to continue the chain of events that led to Fern's son being born. It also led to the continuation of the Landry line.

The following conversation between Fern, Kat and Elliot takes place the day Kat comes home from the hospital after she was born.

Fern: Elliot! Oh, what a joy to see you!

Kat: Fern, listen, we need you to help us. New Year's, 1925, do you remember an explosion in the tunnels under Lingermore?

Fern: Oh, so that's still to come, is it? Oh... Such a sacrifice you made.

Fern doesn't seem to be surprised when she sees Elliot alive. She seems to assume the Lingermore tunnel explosion has already happened for them. Fern knows that Elliot made a sacrifice and jumped in front of Cliff and Kat when Tessa aimed the gun at them.

30. Why did it look like Colton TTed when he was in the murky water in the dunk tank at the carnival?

31. Were ERAs started to bleed into one another? Why did Kat see Thomas with his coins at the present day Founder's Day? Did something like this happen when Thomas saw the house was blue?

32. I think it would be interesting to learn how many of Fern's ancestors time traveled. How many time travelers has Fern met?

Fern tells Alice the following:

Fern: You have less sense of direction than any time traveler I have ever met.

That doesn't sound likemKat was then only other time traveler that Fern had met.

Fern greeted both Alice and Kat the same way she first met them at the pond:

Fern: And who might you be deary?

She said this in a totally non pulsed tone of voice as if greeting time traveling Landry's at the pond was not an uncommon occurrence.

33. Why does Nick have the camera strap from Griffin's camera draped over his shoulder in his last scene from the finale when he is talking to Alice by the boat? Did Nick just find of on the boat? Was this meant to be a clue for season 5?

34. Over time, will there be adverse effects the from affecting the entropy of the universe with time travel?

35. The finale ends with Kat and Alice jumping in the pond. Where are they going? I think they are going to see Fern and Tessa. They Will let them know that Elliot survived.

are not just at the very end of the Finale, so already significant- they both anchor Alice’s story - those are the last scenes of HER story

Alice choosing herself was what many of us wanted to see. She’s still a kid, growing up, but still so young. Most of her recent life has been lived in the past - now she gets to live in the present.

I thought Nick’s advice about exploring her world was so beautiful. Remember, he wanted to escape PH since he was a teenager - but now he’s realized that his home is PH…(with her)

The Way Home

Nick found it

Alice will

For all you anti- Alice/claire people, just be kind.

But what if the one big hiccup everyone has of “but Alice would leave everyone behind” can be explained by whatever big change KC hinted to?

It would be in about 16 years which would put Alice around Nick’s current age and maybe she jumped and either can’t go back or it isn’t safe to or some other explanation.

So I think there are some quotes from the showrunners being overlooked regarding the Claire thing in the finale. Yes it was “cheeky”…it wasn’t a total joke, guys. Here are a couple of quotes from one of the showrunners that aren’t being shared as much. Imo, she really might have considered doing this story for real and kept the idea in her back pocket, which I think is why it was never addressed before and they kept playing into it. So, they gave it the nod in the finale for fans and genuinely did leave it open for us to decide. But, dropped a few more Easter eggs for it into the episode, like Nick buying Colton’s (Alice’s grandfather’s) boat and the “we’ll be a regular Del and Colton” line. It’s mentioned below.

I’m sure I’ll get downvotes (unfortunately has become predictable in this sub anytime this story is mentioned) but I’m just sharing some of the other quotes that some people are not seeing.

Why did we never meet Nick's wife, Claire? Is there a mystery there?

CLARKE: It's funny because we love the trope of the person you'll never meet, the invisible character that people talk about, but you'll never meet. It's fun. It's the same with Brady's person. But then as we started withholding that and fans got wind of it ... this whole beautiful theory developed about it being Alice and I think that's amazing. Yeah, I'm not going to lie, we're a little cheeky about it in the finale because that's a great theory.

https://people.com/the-way-home-series-finale-ending-explained-exclusive-12003633

PCP: Nick (Kerry James) has been very cryptic about Alice meeting Claire someday. What can you tell us about who Claire really is?

AC: Again, I think that was us being a little bit of a wink and a nudge to the audience in that last little moment of Alice and Nick's scenes together. We are very much a “never say never”-type showrunner. I think the very fact that Nick is buying Colton's (Jefferson Brown) boat to bring it back to life and return to his boat tours and he even says, “We'll be a regular Del and Colton.” I think that is amazing and that history repeating itself is something that's very much a Way Home signature. To hear him say that and to know that boat will get out on the water, I think is a really poignant moment.

https://www.popcultureplanet.com/articles/g9qj5grkobu9d7na1m21fby30nz2q9#google_vignette

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a 40 year old telling an 18 year old 

“You know you love me, Alice”

And the thing is, the way Nick said it was joking, so no one really thought anything of it - it’s brilliant !

And because Alice said “I do…in my own bizarre way”, she also wasn’t taken seriously

But there it is…!

And she responded quickly…

 it wasn’t awkward at all, either …they’re at the point where they’re so comfortable with each other

Nick SAID it because he knew from “Claire” that she still loved him - she never stopped, she just moved on as best she could.

I typically watch The Way Home on demand when I cannot watch it live. I just went to try to find the finale and can’t find it. Is there any way to watch it now?

I was just wondering favorite couples from the show I loved fern and cliff and I think I would’ve liked Abby and Jacob and Alice and Max better if we got more and I know it’s because of the cancellation but still. But still I always love Delilah and Colton. For Kat definitely Tomas but I always had in my head her and Susanna even Though it never would happen.