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Every season my friend and I play through the campaign and try to beat one another's times.

Something I've noticed is that the campaign score doesn't correlate with having faster times, what gives?

I have better times on every single track thus far and his score is still higher??

I bought club access for my xbox recently and I found my laptop I lost a couple of weeks ago and wanted to use club access on my laptop and then I realised that I needed to buy it multiple times anyone know why/how to make it not the case cause i dont want to spend another like $30 on it

Is everybody overall really okay with the new style of black maps? Chucking the competitive maps into the casual for-everybody mapset just doesn't sit right with me personally. These maps are not fun to play casually. So far in this set I've played the first 3, targeting silver medals and here's my experience so far:
- Argenitna is a series of precision tricks in a row with a bullshit randomizer at the end. It took me 2 days to get a clean run and that was a silver. It was frustrating to learn, kinda fun to play until I started getting to the end and kept losing really good runs to the "hit the tiny gate on ice while being propelled by a red booster your are forced to approach from an awkward angle" nonsense.
- I got the silver on Saudi Arabia in like 30 minutes, thanks all heavens, but it was not fun in any way shape or form. The entire level seems to be designed to kill any sense of flow. The whole idea of putting speed checks after relatively low speed windy-turny sections is an anti-player design in my mind. Here's my philosophy on it: if I suck in that area I'll end up slow after. And that's a sufficient punishment for not doing it well. If I then end up having to restart because of a speedcheck, that's just the level designer laughing in my face, telling me "ha ha ha, you suck and I knew you'd be slow here".
- And I'm currently on Norway, which combines the previous two. There are fairly long sections with fun driving, but in bewteen are gimmicky flow killer sections and those two bullshit jumps. Here's my problem with them: they are specifically set up to be annoying. If you keep your speed you'll overshoot. If you overshoot there are gaps specifically there to fuck you. How do I know this is not an oversight but an intentional fuck you to the player? The little curved section on the inside if you overturn by a bit. If whoever made this nightmare just figured, "hey, let's put in two degrees of precision, angle of turning and slowing down in the air, it'll be fun", that wouldn't be there. But they tested it, saw that overturning would be a common miss and added the little curved bullshit to make sure there's no lucky bounce to get the player back on the track. This doesn't affect pro players, in a match if they overturn the jump they are out either way. This is just there as a fuck you to casuals.

I don't mind hard maps. I'm working my way through getting author medals in black tracks in every camapign and on some of those I happily spent weeks. But these levels are intentionally designed to be frustrating to the casual player. So why are they in the campaign that is supposed to be for the general community? Competitive maps have been like this for ages and I love watching the pros tackle them, but I never once got the urge to download and try it myself. Now if I want any sense of completion on the campaign I'm forced to deal with the bullshit.

Not fun.

Hi,

How are you supposed to hit the wall to get a proper flip?

Tried watching records, braking, releasing, angled, mid-air inputs....

Pretty much land upside down 95% of the time.

Whats the gimmick?

I'm new to TM 2020 (I've played every Trackmania) and I've bought the club access.
I've managed to get the gold medal in every track in less than a day, but black maps are way, way, way harder than red ones.

I don't know if this is normal or if I should just don't care about black maps, they seem imposible to me (and I've played a lot of TM, I'm not saying that I'm good, I'm very bad, but getting a gold medal in any of those black maps seems imposible for me).

EDIT: thanks everyone for your answers. I didn't know that black maps were from ESports. And knowing that I can accept than beating them is hard as fuck. I think that they should be separated from the campaign, but, it is what it is.

I'm quite new to TM with only 20 hours currently (most from 2022). I decided to come back to the game at the launch of the new season and have been doing a lot better than I expected. I'm currently top 100 in Ireland for the first 15 tracks and hoping to get top 100 in the campaign leaderboard, but after watching someone play the black tracks I doubt I'll even finish them let alone get top 100.

Is it possible to get top 100 with only 20/25 tracks?

For context I watch a lot of Trackmania content but I basically don't play the game, I put like 10 hours into it 2 years ago and 8 hours into TMNF, essentially a complete beginner, I have no clue how drifting works level of player.

I decided to give this recent campaign in TM2020 a shot and played the free tracks, and got AT on the white tracks in one shot on 2 of them, and another after 2 tries. That feels way too easy, I get these tracks are free so aimed at people like me who have barely played the game, but I feel like a blind oneshot from a complete noob should never happen, you should at least need a clean decent line to get the AT. Like what am I supposed to do with the game now given I'm nowhere near good enough to get harder community medals and I've only got these tracks without club access.

I am a fairly new player, 170hrs.

I recently started to build maps, they are kinda shit according to my friends (mostly bad transistions, flow, slides etc)

But...no matter what i build, it gets cutted by someone in less than 1h if i upload it to TMX!

And my friends keep saying "keep those cuts, its more fun" - but this isnt fun for me!

Most cuts are due to techniques or skills that i just didnt know existed or where i am just to bad for it. (wallclimbs, crazy speedslides to jump over gaps i thought were impossible etc)

So my question is, how do i make a map cutproof, if i am not so good at the game? How do i "see" if something could be cut-able with better skill?

Its frustrating :(