Some strange thing I've noticed that recent whistleblowers almost like "begging" for the President to give them immunity to tell everything they know.

Now what could be THAT important for humanity that we should know right now and can't wait a single minute any longer?

If a 'simple' "we are not alone and we have alien crafts/bodies" I don't understand the "begging" on whistleblowers part.. like that is already disclosed by them under oath and it's still not such an "imminent" matter after all these decades of secrecy..

By this logic it should be something we need to know right now that is more than that "we" have bodies/crafts, that is why they are in such a hurry, but what could it be?

If it's an incoming catastrophe or some dark things about our reality or about our soul after we naturally die, and we can do NOTHING about these should we even have this knowledge at all? Why are they in such a hurry about this to tell something like that?

Or it is imminent matter, but only for the whistleblowers themselves because their life maybe in danger by the gatekeepers because they are publicly talking about these things? That is why it's truly imminent, for them?

Maybe it is truly imminent because something very GOOD is kept hidden, like free energy?

What do think why it is sooo imminent?

Update: Avi Loeb says UAPSAC is following up on the baiting event

See this post on X

Original post

Burlison: "The time is now"

Video posted on X:

> Burlison: "My name is Eric Burlison. I'm a Republican congressman from Missouri and a member of the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets. We continue to receive credible claims of recovered crafts of non-human origin and reverse engineering programs that may have operated for decades outside of any government oversight"

> Burlison: "Those claims point to specific facilities, contractors, records, and people. We continue to depend on whistleblowers to provide this critical information, but these whistleblowers are being terrorized"

> Burlison: "Mr. President, I'm asking for you to directly restore what many of these brave whistleblowers have already lost: their pensions, their clearances, and other benefits. Provide immunity for anyone and everyone who has already come forward and for those who will come forward"

> Burlison: "Now we ask that you open the doors and let them speak, not only to Congress but to the public. This is the moment. Use the authority that you have been given because the American people are behind you on this. And the time is now"

Matthew Brown to POTUS: "Prepare the American people"

Posted on X:

> Matthew Brown: "Burlison has made his appeal to POTUS: protect the whistleblowers and free them to speak, not only to Congress, but directly to the American people. Congressman Burlison is a warrior for disclosure and a defender of our nation’s constitutional principles. He is right, the American people are ready for the truth.

> Matthew Brown: "Mr. President, the time is at hand. Protect the whistleblowers. Let them speak. Prepare the American people. Disclose the truth: we are not alone."

Avi Loeb: White House advisory council supports requests by Grusch and others

Video posted on X:

> Avi Loeb: "The UAP Science Advisory Council @UAPSAC fully supports requests made by David Grusch, Eric Davis, and others, for the Trump administration to provide legal assurances, including immunity where necessary, for current or former government employees and military personnel, so that they can share information with the council regarding alleged technology from a non-human origin and help guide the council’s scientific evaluation"

> Avi Loeb: "In parallel, the council is currently pursuing efforts to obtain and scientifically evaluate historical UAP records and legacy data through PURSUE."

For those that dont know: Avi Loeb is head of the UAP Science Advisory Council, created by the White House.

Michael Shermer to POTUS: "Make it so"

Shermer is also part of UAPSAC. He posted on X:

> Shermer: "Both Eric Davis & David Grusch have asked President Trump for immunity so they can direct officials to the aliens & craft (if that is what they are—neither one has seen them with their own eyes). Trump wants to be the most consequential POTUS in history & this would be one of the most consequential disclosures in history. Make it so realDonaldTrump"

You can tell he is having a hard time expressing to want disclosure. He has been mocking this for decades. Telepathy also, which Grusch recently said is how NHI kept in detainment communicate

Anyway this is good, because it means multiple members of that White House advisory council are now advising the White House to let the whistleblowers disclose information.

Burlison confirms "something showed up" during baiting operation with ODNI, CIA, FBI, etc

Today Burlison also posted this on X:

> Burlison: "Our own agencies went back through every past sighting, asked what draws these things in, then recreated those conditions on purpose at a site with prior activity. ODNI, CIA, FBI and military intelligence were all on site"

> "Something showed up."

Christopher Sharp writes: "This is a huge story which has been hugely under covered"

See also this post: Coulthart: DOD is running a new UAP program to circumvent Legacy Program, using "the same dog whistle, psionic summoners as Skywatcher". Jake Barber: we use US govt facilities. We provide them a path to redemption. They will use us to do disclosure. Avi Loeb: downed UAP could be studied by UAPSAC

James Clapper has stepped back from disclosure efforts, grown uncomfortable

This was posted on Liberation Times:

> Since appearing in the UAP documentary Age of Disclosure, Liberation Times understands that Clapper has stepped back from efforts to promote UAP transparency. One source told Liberation Times that he has grown uncomfortable with the recent surge of attention.

I wonder why he has grown uncomfortable. Maybe he thinks the world isnt ready, or that the gatekeepers will end up in trouble, or some adversary will benefit, or that current POTUS shouldnt be the one, or all of the above, or else something else

Previous videos, statements for this recent disclosure push

• Aug 11: Grusch, Brown, Borland, Nuccetelli, Burlison
• Aug 14: Eric Davis
• Aug 15: Matthew Brown
• Aug 17: Dylan Borland
• Aug 18: David Grusch
• Aug 19 (today, opening post): Burlison
• Aug 19 (today, opening post): Avi Loeb
• Aug 19 (today, opening post): Michael Shermer

Burlison tweeted:

Our own agencies went back through every past sighting, asked what draws these things in, then recreated those conditions on purpose at a site with prior activity.

ODNI, CIA, FBI and military intelligence were all on site.

Something showed up.

Is this a new event/briefing? The white sands event that Scalise was also briefed on?

https://x.com/EricBurlison/status/2090079590395879739

Hello I wanted to ask for some reccomandations on Movies, TV series or documentaries that I might not know about , I am getting a bit tired of podcasters and talking heads, so I was wondering if there is anything fun to watch.

For reference I have watched :

• Close encounters
• Taken (probably my favourite)
• Contact
• Disclosure Day
• Age of disclosure
• All of James Fox docs
• All the Bob Lazar stuff
• Stargate SG1 (has some really interesting episodes)
• X-Files

Any suggestion ?

FYI - this sub (and 5 others together in a coalition known as the Anomalous Coalition) are hosting a livestream AMA this Saturday (8/22) at 1 PM eastern with Matthew Brown and Jeff Nuccetelli who along with Dylan Borland have started Vanguard Enterprises an advocacy and support organization for whistleblowers.

To ask your question in advance or see the livestream details see this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/4O0MwQmgLp

Livestream on YT: https://www.youtube.com/live/SIDQ_3u8UAI

In March of 1957, a gigantic saucer shaped craft silently descended in a restricted area of Alexandria, Virginia. Authorities were called, and two policemen approached the metallic craft. From it appeared a man. Not a typical grey, or a horrifying sight that our minds can’t even fathom, but a normal looking— attractive in fact, male. Guns drawn, the police were terrified, but some kind of thought transference occurred to let the men know that this was a friendly interaction.

He identified himself as Valiant Thor. He explained that he had come from Venus, and requested an audience with the upper echelons of the US Government with urgency. Confused but cooperatively, the officials took him to the Pentagon. Valiant Thor would remain there for three years.

I've had two sightings. The first in central California desert in 1979. The second near my home in the Bay Area near Hamilton AFB in 2000 or 2001. They're both in MUFON's files. I attended one of Steven Greer's first conferences and have been researching ever since. I just watched S4: The Bob Lazar Story on Prime and found it very interesting. Just for those who may get something from it.

What's actually been going on behind the non-disclosure, psychological warfare, and suppression of the UAP topic?

There have been a million reasons given but it all comes down to economic interest and control ultimately.

The concept of ‘catastrophic disclosure’ is just another layer of the psychological manipulation. Contrary to what many think, the core structure of modern society will not change with disclosure, and life with its ups and downs will go on as usual for the average man.

The actual 'catastrophic' consequences of disclosure mainly concern the interests of the gatekeepers, in that it can greatly upend the current global economic structure that has come to be over many decades.

Comparing the information about UAP technology gathered from all sorts of sources historically, the common element present among them that holds the greatest revolutionary value for our society is their:

1. Propulsion System &
2. Energy System

These two areas contain the most significant industries of today such as the energies, aerospace, outer space, and defense industries.

While some have speculated that disclosure may lead to an end of those specific industries and gatekeepers are suppressing disclosure to avoid that outcome, the real reason is that the gatekeepers are doing so because they haven't figured out the science and technology behind UAP technology enough to industrially manufacture it.

Gatekeepers aren't in the US alone. A few others like China and Russia assumedly possess the technology too.

This makes me believe there's an ongoing secret race among the various gatekeepers in different countries to be the first ones to conquer the technology.

But unlike the space race, those various gatekeepers all share the same ideology of the general public must be kept in the dark completely, because if they can't be the ones to figure it out first then absolutely no one else must. This is an immensely deep and sickening conspiracy.

Think about it. The result of their decades of suppression and disinformation is a general disbelief and disinterest in UAPs, most severe in research where professional and academic interest in it is a career dead end.

If the government actually came out today and confirmed with irrefutable evidence the existence of UAPs and their possession of its technology, there would be a great revolution in what we considered scientifically and technologically possible.

Humans are quite intelligent and creative. There are hundreds of thousands of hungry and brilliant minds driven by purpose or achievement currently not working on figuring out the ground-breaking energy and propulsion systems that UAPs allegedly possess because the mainstream narrative is that those only belong to the realm of fiction and any serious attempt at studying them will only be met with contempt and ridicule.

If the truth is revealed, the reverse will happen and with thousands of our most brilliant minds working non-stop on figuring it out, a breakthrough would definitely come much sooner than later.

The gatekeeping cabals surely are aware of this but the rapid advancement of science and technology and progress of mankind is unfortunately not at the forefront of their interest as long as they aren't the ones leading that process.

For example, just imagine if in the US there was disclosure and the major defense contractors who allegedly are amongst the gatekeepers, lose the race to some outsider group that figured it out first. 

That could translate to them losing all their military contracts for advanced crafts and weaponry. For major oil companies it could mean losing most of their revenue and investment. For SpaceX, it could mean a massive plummet in their stock and value. 

Worst of all, if it's an adversarial country that figured it out first, that country would quickly become the new, dominant economic and military superpower. The gap would be enormous and overturn the global geopolitical stage.

In essence, there is so much to be potentially lost for the hegemonic gatekeepers that none of them are willing to open the Pandora's Box of full disclosure. That is a risk they absolutely won't take even if it means ruthlessly shedding blood to keep it under their control.

All of this combined is why we can probably expect to never get full disclosure, unless a current gatekeeper (whichever country they may originate from) has figured out the science and tech of UAPs and can successfully manufacture and commercialize it.

To these gatekeepers, they'd rather have another 100 years of secrecy and snail-like progress, as long as they are the ones to figure it out first.

In all honesty, the situation is quite bleak, but there's some hope that as the old heads among the gatekeepers die out, some of the new guys replacing them could have a different mindset and be more eager for a faster progress and open towards disclosure.

Though, I think it's a faint hope as interest and control are ultimately always the dominant factor.

First post, be kind. I've been reading and lurking and paying attention for the last year.

What if full disclosure does come with the maybe ontological shock that had been discussed through many channels? Disclosure that aliens are real and government have known and squirreled it away for decades? Yeah, we're all ready for this.

BUT... if we look at the deeper, darker things hinterd at...

Things like:

1. Life is like wearing VR and souls are eternal

2. there is another species running the world and we're completely oblivious

3. we are going to be wiped out

4. we are immensely powerful psycically and we just don't know how to tap into it

... they are things that could truly make our reality collapse on itself. You still want it?

James Fox posts Grusch's plea to POTUS (video):

> Grusch: "My name is David Grush. I am a former career Air Force intelligence officer and former senior official at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. I've already provided classified testimony and evidence to the Intelligence Community Inspector General and Congress about what I learned about UAP and the involvement of the US, Allied nations, and adversary governments in the retrieval of technology of unknown origin"

> Grusch: "This included photographs and videos of these operations including the craft and the non-human occupants. And I've seen this evidence with my own eyes and I've had these discussions with our nation's most senior leaders in a classified environment"

> Grusch: "I am prepared to provide a full historical accounting to the National Security Council principals and the White House Chief of Staff and make any supporting public statements that are authorized to help this administration move disclosure forward"

> Grusch: "Ready to support Stephen Miller, Vice President Vance's administration immediately to identify the records, programs, and people involved in bringing any improperly concealed activities back under lawful presidential and congressional oversight"

> Grusch: "Mr. President, give us the authorization and we're ready to go"

Avi Loeb: "deserves a serious scientific examination of the evidence"

Avi Loeb responds on X:

> Avi Loeb: "If David is fully authorized to share the evidence supporting his claims, I would welcome the opportunity to work with him immediately to scientifically verify it. Claims of this importance deserve a serious, open-minded scientific examination of the evidence."

For those that dont know: Avi Loeb is head of the UAP Science Advisory Council, created by the White House

James Fox: "He’s already given that information behind closed doors"

Another message by James Fox on X:

> James Fox: "Listen carefully. You’re not paying attention. He’s already given that information behind closed doors. He’s had it because it’s not getting out to the people so he’s making a direct plea to the president to give him immunity so he can ultimately share the truth with the American people and the rest of the world. That’s what this campaign is about"

Previous videos for this recent disclosure push

• Aug 11: Grusch, Brown, Borland, Nuccetelli, Burlison
• Aug 14: Eric Davis
• Aug 15: Matthew Brown
• Aug 17: Dylan Borland
• Aug 18 (today, opening post video): David Grusch

Dr. Eric Davis of the Disclosure Foundation says he’s ready to spill the beans on a variety of dead alien species the U.S. government is storing, but he needs immunity from the White House first. “There’s a minimum of four that we know of, and I’ve seen the evidence, and I’ve seen the records,” Davis tells “Katie Pavlich Tonight.