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Toaks 750ml vs 900ml pots

Im a solo hiker looking to upgrade my 1.1L stainless steel gsi glacier pot to either a 750ml or 900ml titanium pot (likely toaks). I've seen from other posts the 750 ml pots are quite popular but I find myself leaning towards the 900 mL version for two reasons;

  1. it can fit the 200 g fuel canisters inside which I find really handy for packabikity. (Many places Ive travelled to don't have the 100g ones available.)

  2. I find dinners on the trail to be my biggest meal. I typically will have one sidekick meal which requires 500 mL of water, and then add a handful of beef jerky and dehydrated vegetables. Between all of this I'm worried that 750 ml won't fit my dinner.

I really wish I could go to a store to look at both of these pots but that is not available where I live. Are there any workarounds to my reasoning? How do you guys store your fuel canisters if they don't fit? And do you ever have issues fitting all your food in the 750 ml pots for you bigger eaters?

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u/woo2fly35 — 1 hour ago

Crazy light pack list suggestions

https://lighterpack.com/r/c8waik

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can make this lighter without spending huge amounts of money?

This would obviously only be taken where I am certain there will be no rain, strong wind, and relatively warm temperatures (10 degree night, 20-25 degree days celcius).

The goal is to be able to do some easy rock climbing with this pack, scrambling around for 3 daysish. I don't really want to change my pack (I know it's heavyish) because it's what I'm comfortable with, but most other things in their are fair game to challenge.

Go wild.

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u/Due_Environment_8844 — 16 hours ago

Pack selection for newbie

Hello all,

I am seeking advice on getting a lighter pack for backpacking. I went on my first backpacking trip in 20 years last summer using equipment from when I was buying cheap big5 gear. The total weight including food and water came to 56 pounds. When I was younger and broke that kind of weight wasn’t a huge deal but now that I can afford better and lighter equipment I am eager to carry less weight. I will mention that high weight of my trip last year was not only due to the weight of the equipment but also because I packed my fears and to a degree didn’t pack well enough ahead of time (packed my full 1st aid kid, instead of only selecting items that I might need). Since that trip I have purchased the xmid 2 (72oz lighter than the tent I previously used) I also bought the helinox chair zero saving 14oz from last year. I am not strictly looking at going ultralight (I’m taking a chair after all) but I am interested in getting a lighter pack. My previous pack is a big5 special that I bought for $90 back in the day. It weighs 90 ounces. I want to get a better pack. I was set on getting something like the kakwa55 or the ov shadowlight carbon60. Primarily because they are sub 2lb. Should I be looking at those types of lightweight packs or would I be better served by a 3lbs pack that has more features or is more comfortable? Thanks in advance for your advice it is really appreciated.

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u/AGriffin777 — 13 hours ago

Shakedown Request Pyrenees

Hi everyone, hoping to get some advice on an upcoming trip. Really appreciate any tips or experiences that those with more experience can share. Thanks so much for reading!

Location/temp range/specific trip description:

French GR10, Etsaut to Bagnères-de-Luchon, late July to early August (18 hiking days). We'll be wild camping most nights with a few hotels/campsites for showers and resupply. Expecting daytime temperatures from around 15–30°C depending on elevation, with overnight lows potentially around 0–5°C at the highest camps (Hourquette d'Ossoue, Néouvielle, Espingo area). We're carrying food between regular town resupplies and cooking breakfast and dinner on a gas stove.

Goal Baseweight (BPW):

No fixed target. I'd like to reduce unnecessary weight while keeping the kit suitable for several weeks of mountain hiking and variable Pyrenean weather. If I could get comfortably below my current base weight without compromising safety or comfort, that would be ideal.

Budget:

Flexible for worthwhile upgrades (roughly £200–500), but I'm equally interested in free weight savings by removing unnecessary items.

I'm looking to:

Mainly looking for a full shakedown. I'd like advice on anything I've overlooked, items that are redundant, or gear that isn't appropriate for a late-July GR10 hike. If there are obvious upgrades that offer a significant weight or performance improvement, I'm happy to hear those too.

Non-negotiable Items:

Tarptent Stratospire Li (solid inner), trekking poles, sleep system comfortable to around 0°C, cooking setup, and carrying enough layers for alpine weather. I'm not interested in going stoveless or replacing the shelter for this trip.

Solo or with another person?:

Hiking with my girlfriend. I'll probably carry most of what's on the lighterpack, she'll be taking the gas and perhaps more of the food carry.

Additional Information:

We're both in our early 30s and have previous multi-day hiking experience, including the West Highland Way and the Fisherman's Trail in Portugal. I'm aware that the GR10 is considered harder than either of these. This will be our first long section of the GR10. Our planned itinerary averages around 13–18 km per day with 1,000–1,600 m of ascent on the bigger days, so we're expecting sustained mountain terrain rather than big mileage.

I'm particularly interested in hearing from anyone who's hiked the GR10 in late July/August. Is my clothing and sleep system appropriate? Am I carrying anything unnecessary for the Pyrenees? Any common mistakes first-time GR10 hikers make?

Lighterpack Link:

https://lighterpack.com/r/etcu3m

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u/MembershipDry1042 — 18 hours ago

Looking for suggestions on quilts/sleeping bags

My current sleeping bag for 3 season hiking is 2.48lbs and is the number one thing I need to replace in my setup. I’m looking for something budget friendly that is nice and light. I’m looking for something around 25f and at a price in the 200-300$ cad range I’m open to quilts or sleeping bags thanks!

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u/Beef_Flower — 13 hours ago

Section hike of the GR10

Hey guys,

I'm going to the pyrenees for a 500km section hike of the GR10 in a few weeks. I feel very dialed in, just looking for some suggestions, experiences or advice before leaving.

It'll be august, expected low will be 5C or 41F, expected high maybe 30C oe 85F. Probably not to many bugs since it's rather late in the season, if you've experienced otherwise please let me know. I'll layer every piece of clothing on the cold nights, if it's not enough I'd drape the quilt around me like a poncho. Not perfect but it'll work. If you don't think so, let me know. I'm expecting some storms in the afternoons, so I'll probably take breaks in refuges or under my tarp and continue hiking in the evenings. I will eat while walking, so not really chilling in camp in the evenings. I'd love to use a 40 degree quilt but I don't I have time to make it and I won't buy one. I'll do yoga and take naps on the thin light pad.

If you want to give me a shakedown I'm happy to hear you out. I don't really want to spend any more money because I already spent too much but 50 bucks would be fine I guess. I'm not tied to any specific piece of and I'm hiking alone.

I appreciate all suggestions and advice!

https://lighterpack.com/r/5om1cd

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u/Tharno_ — 1 day ago

Help choose 3-Season Regular Wide sleeping pad.

Hello

If you have just 1 sleeping pad to go, mostly 3-season (backpacking, bikepacking) but fine in Winter if needed, which one would you go ? Easy to install, and silent would be top priority​. Unless going​ Winter Expedition, average higher temperature just a 3 season would be far enough...

Anything better than Thermarest NeoAir Xlite NXT RW? Exped look interesting (higher r-value, leighter, more compact) but what about solidity ?

3-Season:

- Thermarest NeoAir Xlite NXT RW: r4.5, 7.6cm height, 450g weight

- Sea to Summit Ether Light XR Insulated: r4.1, 480g

- Nemo Tensor All-Season:​ r5.4, 580g

4-Season:

- Exped Ultra 6.5R Mummy Medium Wide: r6.9, 9cm, 425g

- ThermaresXTherm NXT RW​: r​7.3, 7.6cm, 570g

- Sea To Summit Ether Light XR Pro​: r7.4, 10cm, 620g

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u/Oklariuas — 2 days ago

To umbrella or not to umbrella

I'm starting to experiment with a sun umbrella. During some tests in Maine recently, I was super pleased with how much of a difference it makes in direct sunlight, and especially how much better it is than the hood of a sun hoody. It's also a game-changer for afternoon siestas.

For those tests I was using a Montbell 2-way 50. I liked it, but it's telescoping shaft and folding ribs are not very appealing to me from a perspective of minimalism and simplicity. I'd rather have something more "static". So I ordered a GG LightTrek instead, as it is the lightest non-telescoping and non-folding umbrella that I could find with a meaningful UPF rating (I wish montbell sold their Carbon OD 60 model with a UPF fabric).

The LightTrek came in just yesterday. I must say, some pieces of UL gear spark joy. I hold them in my hands and think, "Ah yes... perfection". But this umbrella does not make me feel that way. It feels grotesquely large and excessive. I can feel it violating every UL principle that I hold dear just by touching the thing. Not only because of the weight and the bulk, but also the departure from simplicity to complexity that an umbrella represents.

So I guess I just need to decide if the benefits of carrying one are worth it to me. I figure that to offset some of this excess, I would forego my bivy in favor of Lint's infamous bug condom. I may also even chop the shaft off of the umbrella, and find a way to attach my trekking pole in it's place.

I'll be doing some tests to that end this summer, so that I can decide whether or not I will bring it on the PCT next year.

What do others think? Can an umbrella actually ever be considered ultralight, or is this a textbook luxury item? By incorporating it into my sleep system and bug protection, am I actually doing some clever optimization, or am I just putting lipstick on a pig? I'm not asking about whether it can fit into a 10 lb kit; obviously it can. I'm more interesting in hearing how an umbrella does or doesn't jive with your personal UL philosophy.

For context, my current PCT rough draft has a baseweight near 7 lbs, and I'd like it to be as close to 6 lbs as possible. Going with the bug condom would save ~1.5 oz over my bivy, and another ~0.5 oz by not having to carry a bug head net. But that total 2 oz saving won't offset the addition of a 5.8 oz umbrella. I'm still at nearly a 4 oz excess (or hopefully closer to a 2 oz excess once I chop the shaft).

Is the sun protection of an umbrella worth 2-4 oz, plus one more thing to have to deploy, stow, and keep track of? On the one hand, the experience of using one on a sunny day is so great. On the other, I did the JMT last August without one, and while the sun was certainly oppressive at times, I was fine. However, I was hiking with a more casual group and wasn't really pushing mileage. A few weeks ago on the Four Pass Loop, where I was solo and absolutely was pushing mileage, I was really kicking myself for not having an umbrella. It seems that maybe there's a certain threshold of exertion where it really can make the difference.

u/pretzlstyle — 2 days ago

Alpha System

OK help me out here, I'm struggling lol. I think I'm pretty dialed (minus a lighter shelter, which is coming): https://lighterpack.com/r/la5hja, but I can't figure out how to insulate properly for my style, mostly CA 3-season, coastal, Sierras and San Gabriels. I just picked up a Cerium to replace my Cotopaxi Fuego for next season HST, but I feel like it's overkill for my typical use-case. Is anyone running a pure Alpha system and what are you using?

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u/corgdad902 — 2 days ago

Sourcing water in the South East: Testing the "churchyard tap" lore to lower base weight. Spot #1 confirmed.

Water is heavy. On my first one-night bivi run a few weeks ago, I panic-packed 3L of water. Hitting the first incline with an extra 3kg of dead weight made me realize my strategy needed a serious rethink.

I see people online boasting about carrying a single 1L bottle and filtering from streams as they go. That’s viable for the peaks or Wales, but down here in South Croydon, backcountry streams are non-existent. I want the freedom of a multi-day trip without carrying a crushing fluid load, which brought me to an old piece of outdoor lore:

“Most historic churches have active, publicly accessible outdoor taps so mourners can water graves.”

If this lore is actually reliable, it’s a game-changer for reducing carrying capacity on local routes.

Since my day job has me traveling all over the south of the country anyway, I’ve set myself a challenge to physically survey these sites. I had a walk around a parish on my break today, and Spot #1 is a confirmed success.

It nearly caught me out, though—there is a prominent tap right on the side of the church that is completely dead. But after surveying the perimeter, I found a live, high-flow tap hidden in the garden feeding a trough. I’ve logged the data and uploaded the verified coordinates directly to OpenStreetMap to ensure the data is open-source for local hikers and bikepackers.

A few questions for the community:
Has anyone here actively relied on churchyard taps to supplement their water strategy on UK trails?

How are you sourcing water while on on the trail?

Any other regional "urban-wilderness hybrid" resource hacks worth testing out on my travels?

I’ve put together a live project tracker and data board for these verification runs if anyone wants to track the coordinates as I log them: https://thereisamaninthewoods.co.uk/2026/07/01/the-tap-search/

u/Slow_Environment_595 — 2 days ago

Actually Fixed Shakedown

Really sorry for wasting everyone's time. Here is the actual working link https://lighterpack.com/r/vgvogf Next use case is CT next summer. Feel as though I could cut some weight in the tent and bag area. Considering bivy. Considering 6moon lunar solo tent. Not sure. Whatever is the most budget and convenient.

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u/Otherwise-Parking566 — 2 days ago

Backpacking Tents

Hello Peeps,

I currently hammock backpack and wanting to get out it. With that being said, this is my first year of backpacking but i’ve already done 9 trips this year so far to Red River Gorge in KY.

Budget: $350 max
Size: 2P (ik 2P room normally fits like a 1P since gear)
Weight is another big thing, trying to cut weight as much as possible but ik my price point stops that a bit.

Here is one i’ve found a thought about, what are yalls opinion on this one: https://nearzero.co/products/bundle-tent?variant=43935082053855. (the 2P one ofc)

thank ya in advance

(edit: i didn’t realize “ultralight” is under 3 pounds, so the one i suggested isn’t ultralight, my bad)

u/Various_Age7070 — 3 days ago

Clothing that accommodates short stature/sensory needs

Hello, all. As the title suggests, I'm looking for clothing that will accomodate my short stature and sensory needs. I'm aiming for natural materials like merino or cotton. I prefer a boxy, loose fit and am willing to carry the extra ounces. However, I don't want material bunching. Something that hangs loosely over the wrists and waist without catching is fine.

I've had very little luck finding gear matching these criteria and would greatly appreciate suggestions. If needed, I can provide more specific measurements, but right now I'm mainly hoping for word-of-mouth recommendations from other short hikers who have had success navigating this issue. Inventive and unexpected solutions are especially appreciated!

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u/birdofmockery — 2 days ago

Sliding around while sleeping?

I bought a Kelty Sleeping bag and a Thermarest Neo-air ultralight. I tested it out last night in my living room.

How the hell do yall sleep on this thing? I kept sliding off. Wanted to put my leg up, but it would just touch the floor. Feel like I need to prop a bag next to it so I can anchor myself with my knee while I sleep. Otherwise I keep sliding off.

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u/SuperDocument — 2 days ago

Looking for a shakedown!

https://lighterpack.com/r/96grxc

I hike in the pacific north west and planning a trip for August long weekend up to the peak of the tallest mountain on Vancouver island. I’m currently working on dialling in my set up.

This list does not include my clothes, food, fuel, or water the rest of the stuff I’m taking is on the list.

*im sharing a tent so I’m only bringing pegs and poles*

I’m open to suggestions on 1 man tents for the future, my sleeping pad is brand new and my sleeping bag is in need of replacement. I’m open to suggestions for somewhat budget options for sleeping bag/quilt. Thanks for checking out my gear!

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u/Beef_Flower — 2 days ago

Quick look at the Nitecore HA11 headlamp + headband mod

Glamour pic (here).

Final weight with DIY headband and NL1411R battery: 51.40g (pic)

Album full of pics and weights (https://imgur.com/a/Szglx66)


I didn't see many results in this sub about this headlamp (Nitecore HA11 UHE version), but /r/flashlights suggested this might work for what I wanted (the thread):

  • Lightweight

  • USB charging with replaceable battery

  • Lower output modes (don't need high lumens, prefer longer runtime)

  • Red light modes

HA11 fits all those needs except USB-C charging, but there are 14500 that have USB port charging. Apparently, these types of batteries are actually pretty decent these days. There are "AA" with USB port charging as well, but run at lower voltages. Lithium Primaries (non-rechargeable) are the lightest.

Weights of my own cells:

Battery Type Weight (g)
Alkaline (included) 22.99
NiMH (Eneloop) 26.22
NiMH (LADDA/Eneloop Pro rewrap) 30.24
Lithium Primary (Energizer) 14.78
Li ion (Nitecore NL1411R) 20.74

The Nitecore NL1411R has USB-C, 3.6V 1100 mAh. Skilhunt BL-113C is a USB-C 3.6V 1300 mAh 14500 cell, but they only ship batteries with flashlights, not standalone.

Attachment Weight (g)
Stock Headband 12.60
DIY Headband 5.43
Clip 5.25

The DIY headband is 1/8" shock cord and the cord lock is from Michael's (0.75g). Here's how it's attached ONE and TWO. Here's a video of me shaking it a lot: https://streamable.com/td1zbx (muted audio to spare you clacking sounds).

I could go under 50g if I ditch the cord lock and got 1/16" shock cord. Attachment would be a little different though. The headband frame has holes in it like the old NU25/NU20 Classic, so you'd put the cord through those holes. Could then chop off the parts of the frame that hold the actual headband.

If you want a longer review with beamshots, you can go to this review on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7kZOwntStY), beamshots start at 11:05.


Compared to Flextail Helio 600z (63g), which did appear on this sub, this is a better alternative IMO.

  • AA is ubiquitous and findable everywhere, CR123A or 16340 is not. If shit really really really hits the fan, I can likely find a detour to a gas station on a bikepacking/touring trip.

  • Lower lumen setting means longer runtime, even if the watt-hour of the cells are similar unless the Flextail steps down A LOT on the 100 lumen mode, which would be bad.

  • I'm sure you can shave some weight from the Flextail headband, but from my estimate, it'd be max 8g (similar to NU20/25 headband mods) while the HA11 is lighter with my heavier DIY headband.

  • HA11 come with a clip, so if you prefer your light on the waist or shoulder strap or even hat, you can do that. The clip isn't that light at 5.25g, but you can drill some holes or something. Flextail does not have a clip option.

  • My biggest issue is that the water resistance on the HA11 seems a little sus, Flextail's seems better.

I am not advocating this as a replacement for the Nitecore NU20 Classic, but if you despise built-in batteries then this might be the best option out there, especially if you can get your hands on Skilhunt's BL-113C 14500 batteries.

u/HeadCoast — 3 days ago

Updated Shakedown

sorry for the utterly terrible shakedown request from earlier, I have no idea what I was thinking posting that lol. I ran to the store and put some things together. I have not bought a sleeping bag yet, so I just put my number one pick there for now. (send some suggestions, I don't know what I don't know).

Use Case and Other Info

I am 18. The only time I will ever need a 2p is when I'm with my girlfriend, but we will worry about that when we actually are able to take a trip together (scheduling conflicts.) I hope to do the CT next summer solo and maybe hit a couple peaks while I'm at it. If I still love it after that, I'll do PCT. So I could potentially do a trekking pole tent? I am a little bit anxious about just a tarp, I don't know if I am ready for that yet.

If anyone is wondering, the reason I have some expensive brand name gear and some cheaper gear, is because I got an insane marketplace deal on a lightweight/standard weight setup. That is why my tent is heavy but expensive. I am working through gear to sell and downsize.

Note: I also have a Nemo Tensor Insulated RW inflatable pad, which I would take in the event I get a quilt instead of a bag. https://lighterpack.com/r/vgvogf

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u/Otherwise-Parking566 — 3 days ago

Sleeping Bag Advice

Hey, I am currently living in London and started doing a few ‘mini’ adventures leaving after work and arriving back by 9am the next day. I currently have a Berghaus sleeping bag I picked up for cheap, but the pack size is pretty enormous meaning I need to take a big bag for these small trips.

Could anyone recommend some sleeping bag options. Requirements are for a warm weather one (fair weather camper for now!) that I am able to compact down as small as possible. Light weight is also a plus, but also don’t need to be the lightest as I’m not travelling huge distances. Budget of £250 ideally

Thanks in advance!

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u/evansrhys — 2 days ago
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Katabatic users—use pad attachment straps or no? (Sierras late July trip)

As stated. Heading out for my first trip with new KB Palisade/Nemo Eclipse setup. Trying to decide if they're needed for this trip or not. Warm/side sleeper, doing the southern portion of the YHR so expect to be above 10k for a lot of camps, as much cowboy camping as bug pressure/wind will allow.

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u/Witty-Condition8637 — 4 days ago