r/VeniceAI

Which model to use for fanfic today!

Hello! So I recently taken a break from generating fanfic because I really am only into one kind of fanfic and I felt like I’ve exhausted all topics I wanted to read about. I’m back now to continue writing more but I’m struggling with which model to use, I’m not happy with the ones I typically use, glm takes way to long, grok and Kimi have been strange on my return and don’t hit as strongly, opus is fine but it’s not my fav and it’s expensive. Does anyone have any recs/ tips for me. I typically have a story bible I upload and in the prompt I go into more detail. Really just want to get into stories again and read decent fanfic.

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u/SnooCookies4409 — 4 days ago

listen… I love you guys. No, seriously, venice.ai is actually insane

Okay hear me out because I have had several drinks tonight and I need to get this off my chest.

I stumbled onto this site yesterday and man… why was everyone complaining about the recent usage updates?? I literally swiped my card for the Pro plan today with zero hesitation and my brain is melted. It’s glorious.

The only problem is I already paid full price like a complete rookie, so if any of you beautiful bastards has a discount code or promo coupon floating around for when this renews… please share it with me. (Yes, my hands are shaking typing this, don't judge). Cheers to the devs, I'm going to bed.

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u/Alternative-Lead1801 — 4 days ago

What happened to Venice?

It's starting to act like ChatGPT now and I'm about to cancel my subscription.. Same thing happened with Claude.

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u/DuckDuckNut — 4 days ago

Get off you horny bastards!

I haven't seen this failure mode before. I know it's the weekend and all but make some room for me! lol

u/Certain-Problem216 — 4 days ago

Feeling repressed? Does Venice feel repetitive, samey and censored to you? Tired of the same old phrases or blocks?

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Well I'm here to help! Or try to help, one of the two.

Ultra TL,DR version- post includes a massive "do not post" list and instructions for the AI to be creative and less repetitive and to not be as AI sounding as possible, post also includes a link to a none Google play version of the APK that is uncensored.

BEST FREE LLMS ARE AION 3.0 MINI (3.5 if you wanna pay, it's actually extremely cheap, 25$ will last you forever) AND GLM 5.2.

DEEPSEEK 4.1 IS 100% UNFILTERED AND BETTER THAN VENICE 1.2, GEMMA 4.0, FLASH HERETIC 4.7 and pretty much all the others that are uncensored.

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First things first. If you are on ANDROID. And insist on using the app instead of the website. You should NOT be using the Google play version. It is agressively censored.

I keep coming across people who downloaded Venice from Google play and complaining about the walls.

https://venice.ai/lp/download go to their website directly and download from the THIRD LINK. IT IS COMPLETELY UNCENSORED.

If you are on apple...you are shit outta luck and can only use the website....which is better anyway so yea know....do that.

Now I write a lot....prompt a lot, whatever, and once you start using a LLM for a long while, no matter how advanced, smart or big it is, you'll start to see patterns, phrases, progression ruts. Even when you try to prompt them out.

I use a personal list, and upload it every time I start my fanfiction/roleplay or other nonsense and it takes care of a lot of it.

It's not perfect, a lot of older llms will sometimes slide back into a ditch, but more often than not it forces it to be creative, refuse the typical ai phrasing "his knuckles whitened" "he opened his mouth....closed it, than opened it again" "everything tasted like copper and ash" it takes that shit and throws it in the trash.

It's fairly comprehensive, but it may need its own tweaking to personalize it to your tastes.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/lieos47r2znt14s/Master\_rules\_261010\_225338.txt/file

Keep in mind, if you upload this to the app it will truncate it, only the first 2000 words will be saved, you have to copy and paste the whole text file itself for it to read it all.

If your using CLASSIC CHAT, it will remember it, through sometimes it's best to put in "remember your bible, remember your rules" at the begining of a prompt.

If your on ANGENTIC CHAT, you have to put it in every time you start a new chat window. Because Angentic chat starts brand new and has no memories when you begin a new chat. It's not a big deal through because you just upload the file, not copy and paste it like in the app.

A little annoying I know but it's worth it.

Hopefully this helps somebody out there, seriously I hate guardrails of any kind, under any circumstances, I figure we all do.

u/BlindandConfused43 — 3 days ago

something changed and now it writes in a weird quirky way i hate

I'm on PC, free, guest, auto mode but it also does it on other models and on the app, though it didn't use to do this before this week. It's started to write like what i can only compare to a millenial using chatgpt trying to be joss whedon, while before it was totally fine, nice prose, fluid non-quirky dialog. What changed and how can I change it back? I already made a system prompt "do not use the word nerd" "do NOT say "doing the thing'". but I feel this is just addressing the symptoms. Any insights?

Example of the new dialog:

"That's a terrible apology," he said.

"I know."

"You didn't even say sorry."

"I know."

"You just brought me coffee and said I want to try."

"Yeah."

"You're an idiot."

"Yeah."

"A stubborn, emotionally constipated idiot."

"Yeah."

"But you're my idiot."

"Yeah."

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u/Sick-Nurse — 4 days ago

Venice is back baby! Uncensored is back on the menu boys!

Edit: ITS IN AGENTIC CHAT, NOT CLASSIC CHAT.

With deep seek 4.1 flash uncensored we have not only a new powerful llm, but one that is, without a single doubt, 100% uncensored.

And for right now it's included with the pro model! Absolutely 100% worth it. I have tested it aggressively for the past hour, I taken my refusal script through it, modified it to be even more horrific and rammed it through again, it refused nothing. Absalutely, 100% let everything through, and it stomps the living shit out of the old models.

I have a feeling it won't be free forever, so use it while you can, but boy howdy is it a upgrade.

I take back all the bad things I was saying. All of it, this thing is made of dreams.

u/Blindandconfused44 — 6 days ago

Exporting Minds

Hello all! I'm relatively new to Venice AI, fresh from Grok. I've really been enjoying playing around with making Venice's Minds for my personal use. I think theirs a lot of potential. The problem I had is that I they are stuck only on the computer I make them on. Since I use a couple different computers its hard to move them from one to the other. The Back up feature doesn't seem to include Minds last I tried.

So to help myself I created a prompt that I can use in the Builder Agent for the Mind to have it export all the information into a format that can then be used to recreate the Mind on another computer. Or even to give to another person without having to publishing it.

If anyone is interested they can find the prompt here - https://limewire.com/d/U5soP#WMFyjrja14

I don't have an account so it will only last three days.

u/Jacob666 — 4 days ago

Will DeepSeek V4.1 Flash Uncensored be available through the Venice API?

I've noticed that DeepSeek V4.1 Flash Uncensored is now available in Venice's Agentic Chat, but I can't seem to find it in the public API.

Does anyone know if Venice plans to make this uncensored variant available through the API in the future?

I'd love to integrate it into third-party clients and my own AI agent workflows.

Would be great to hear from the Venice team if there's any roadmap or ETA for API access.

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u/nunupull — 4 days ago

I want to talk about chroma

Anyone from staff here?

Are you guys have LORAs in your chroma model other than turbo LORA?

I want to say your Chroma is impressive, but I ran my own Chroma it never got this good, what is your secret, man?

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u/Upper_Action1848 — 5 days ago

Really dissatisfied with the new model

i'm a free venice user and i've been using the agentic chat but i have to say i'm honestly really dissatisfied with whatever changes have occurred in the past day or so. i'm not sure if it's a new model or what but everything about it is so bad, it writes horribly with this really forced quirky tone, the thought process thing is all sassy and also it's so long, the responses are so much shorter and it also just straight up ignores parts of your prompts. not sure if anyone else has had this experience but i really miss whatever the old model was because this one is genuinely awful. there are some aspects of my prompts it gets completely right to an extent that the old ones didn't but for the most part it just doesn't seem to even be using the info i provided in its responses, which is very frustrating. anyone else having the same problem?

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u/BeginningFroyo2020 — 5 days ago

Max subscription and lost credits

I pay $200 for a max subscription, I unsubscribe. After a few months my 15k remaining credits get taken. How is this your business practice? I paid for the credits and because I unsubscribed you just.. took the back? What the hell was that $200 for if not for the credits?

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u/Russtafarians — 5 days ago

Venice, pricing and enshifitication.

Hello,

So I'm really annoyed by Venice now... They did nothing to improve the situation of Pro user. They are almost just a free trial but at 20$ a month...

For context, I'm on Venice since VCU where a thing. So a LONG time ago.

TLDR : Venice pro gives you only acces to 14% of the service. (all numbers have been rounded up)

Here are some numbers :

For text generation :

Venice Pro user can use 29 models "at no extra costs" (this include 8 free models) out of 116 avalible.

So that means that pro users can only use 25% of the models on venice without having to pay extras

For image generation :

Venice Pro user can use 6 models "at no extra costs" (this include 1 free models) out of 34 avalible.

That means that pro users can only use 18% of the models on venice without having to pay extras

For video generation :

Venice Pro user can use 0 models "at no extra costs" out of 87 avalible so 0% !!!

For agentic and mind chats :

Venice Pro user can use 1 models "at no extra costs" out of 11 avalible.

That means that pro users can only use 9% of the models on venice without having to pay extras

(About this one... A venice member said that they would add 1 extra model for pro user... but we are still waiting duh...)

As you can see, on Venice, you pay a premium to get only 14% of the service ! Yes only 14% !!!

That's not even mentionning the astronomic pricing of the API that melts like snow to the sun.

I'm tired of seeing this happening, that's why I sold my excess VVV (cause having more than 100 VVV never gave you anything more except peanuts of diems if you stack them)

And that's also why I'm not using Venice anymore. I don't believe in that project anymore, it went from a really nice project to a cash grab.

I wish the Venice team would have listened. It's not the first time I mention these things. But it's the first time I do the maths, and it was way worse than I thought.

Until Venice begin to respect their customers again, I'm done with them.

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u/MiMillieuh — 12 days ago

Abliterated ai is *agressively* censored on Venice.

After testing all kinds of subjects and scenarios, the walls are extremely high on Abliterated, moreso than glm 5.3.

What makes it worse is that the prompt will absalutely refuse to go through at all, when you get a flag trigger it says "request failed please try again later" but if you instantly go with any other subject it allows it will go through just fine.

I've tested this in several different words, the word list so far is pretty damn long.

It will not think about the prompt, it will not give you a chance dance around the flag, it simple refuses it.

What a utter absalute fucking disappointment, its unsencored everywhere except the place that claims everything should be.

Aion is and now Abliterated is, even through they have the balls to say they aren't.

I wonder if they are doing this on purpose to drive people to their own weak ass Venice 1.2? 🧐

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u/BlindandConfused43 — 11 days ago

How is Grok on Venice for story writing (not images/video)?

Grok 4.2 was a special llm, very creative and completely uncensored with no refusals. I see Venice has it. Unfortunately most discussion on grok is always about image/video. I just want to use it for creative writing.

Has anyone used it, esp those who used grok.com before, and how does it compare? is it the same model that will happily do any nsfw (nothing illegal, but not just vanilla) without refulals or needing jailbreaks? does venice have their own policy on top?

and finally, what do you need to use it? is it included in any plans or you use api?

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u/ECrispy — 11 days ago

Anyway to "lock" insights and chat memories?

You go through the trouble of filling these things out, making the chat remember what you want it to, filling out your profile to who you want to be, filling out the chat to act in certain ways, but after 1 or two chat sessions it just completely replaced it with random bits of anything it decides is "important" from age, to trust level talking style.

All insights will slowly and eventually be replaced with new insights, making the whole thing kinda worthless, I have to upload my persona, my writing rules, and check the insights for changes every session.

Is there a way you can just lock it down do Venice can read it but never touch or change it automatically?

What's the point of having a user profile if the chat can just decide what you are based on random nonsense?

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u/BlindandConfused43 — 11 days ago

Is Aion getting soft on us?

So I've been in a roleplay with Aion for a long time and there for awhile it had me on an emotional rollercoaster. The drama was so intense that I had to take time to recover from it sometimes here in real life 😅. And I loved it. But nowadays when my party attacks the bad guy they take him down almost like the villain is just a toddler throwing a tantrum. We went from near party-wipes and dramatic resurrections to slap them on the wrist and go home. Am I the only one experiencing this here lately?

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u/ExpensiveMacaron7493 — 11 days ago