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Which YNAB alternative can easily show me my real unencumbered net income? (Net-income minus money set aside for goals and rolled over for expenses)

The most important data I need is how much I really saved per month. I am a YNAB user and currently trying Monarch, Lunch Money, Liquid Budget and ZeroSum. Basically, the formula for the number I want to see is:

Actual unassigned income:

Gross Income this Month - [Expenses taken from this month's assigned budget + money assigned to goals (or savings category) this month]

This means, if this month I earned $200. I budgeted $100 for groceries (a non-roll over category) and $1000 for auto insurance. I have been saving up for this for several months adding $100 a day.

The number I want to see is: Actual Net Income / Free money: $100 (200-100)

Most applications will tell me my net income for this month is -$900. This won't tell me that I have $100 that I can use to pay down some debt or spend.

I would also like to see this not just in the month but for the year or so on.

So, if from year to date I earned $10,000, spent $5,000, and set aside $2,000 for goals and $2,000 for items such as annual insurance payments, annual subscriptions etc. I want to see that I have $1,000 saved up unencumbered.

$10,000 - [$5,000 + $2,000 + $2,000] = $1,000

Most apps I've tried will say my net income is $5,000.

I don't think any of the apps I've tried can show this. YNAB does not subtract credit card payments from ready to assign, Monarch does not subtract rolled over funds from available for goals. Neither does it subtract funds that should be set aside for credit card payments. Lunch Money can't. Liquid Budget as so many issues syncing and creating strange entries I can't even begin to check if this works. ZeroSum I have not played with that much but since it basically operates the same YNAB I assume the behavior is the same.

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u/espadrillies — 10 days ago
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[opportunity][iOS] Giving 20 people a free 1-year Monni membership for beta feedback

I'm Jerry, founder of Monni.

I'm giving 20 people a free 1-year membership in exchange for blunt feedback on the first week.

Monni is an iOS money brief for people who want a lighter weekly check-in instead of a full budgeting system.

Best fit:

  • you use or used Mint, Monarch, YNAB, Simplifi, spreadsheets, or mental math
  • you want a clearer "what's safe to spend this week?" view
  • you're okay telling me what feels confusing or untrustworthy

App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/monni-ai-money-tracker/id6778174904

Website: https://monni.io

DM me if you want one. I'll reply asking for the email to grant access to, then manually add the free year.

Please don't post your email publicly, and don't send balances, screenshots, account numbers, addresses, passwords, or private financial details. High-level workflow feedback is enough.

I may be biased because I'm the founder of Monni.io.

u/ReasonableBox5301 — 10 days ago
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We’re giving Moneko a fresh look. What would you improve? 👀

Hi,

We’ve been working on a visual refresh for Moneko and would love some feedback before we go too far.

One of the bigger changes is reworking our existing category library with new, more visual icons, so it’s easier to recognize spending categories at a glance. We’ve also gotten some really useful feedback about the Home screen, especially around the spending trend and spending breakdown/pie chart, so we’re looking at improving those too.

If you use Moneko, what would you change about the UI? Anything that feels cluttered, confusing, takes too many taps, or could be easier to understand?

Open to any feedback!

u/Plus_Journalist_8665 — 11 days ago

I've been building a zero-based budgeting for household life, self-employment, and business

Happy Sunday! I’m the developer of ReadyCents, so this is a Sunday dev post.

I started working on ReadyCents after I was injured on the job and was waiting for the verdict of what to do next with my life.

It has been an ongoing build since then, shaped by the way I actually needed to manage money. Zero-based budgeting and the core of YNAB still made sense to me and helped me save, but the way I needed to manage my money moving forward stopped fitting neatly inside one personal monthly budget.

I needed room for household decisions, self-employment income, business expenses, tax set-asides, irregular months, and everything in between, and it didn't give me that.

ReadyCents is currently focused on cloud plans and mobile, though self-hosting is also an option.

One thing I cared about from the start was making switching less painful. When you import a YNAB budget, ReadyCents can carry over scheduled transactions and memos, and you can easily adjust anything bank balances and or transactions, so you are not rebuilding your whole system from scratch once you hit your budget.

What I’m also doing differently:

• Making the starting experience friendlier for people who are new to envelope budgeting or budgeting in general.

• Letting people shape their own categories, layouts, themes, and reports without fighting the app

• Supporting personal, household, and business budgets in one place

• Keeping manual-first budgeting available on any plan, connections are always optional through SimpleFIN, Lunch Flow, or Plaid depending on the plan.

• Making routine money tasks easier to work through, including review queues, transaction filters, budget planning, calendar views, and reports

I’m currently opening a small founding community.

There are two one-time founder options: Connected Basic starts at $1, where you bring your own connection provider, and Cloud Premium is $10 with managed Plaid logins included. Both include lifetime plan access, with provider fees separate where applicable.

Founder details and product preview:

https://www.readycents.com/founder

If you have used YNAB, Actual, ZeroSum, Liquid Budget, or another envelope budgeting tool, I would love to know:

What do you wish a zero-based budgeting app understood about your actual money flow? And if you are self-employed, freelance, run a business, or manage side projects, or you budget with a partner, household, a single parent, what makes you stay with a budgeting app long term instead of eventually moving on?

P.S: I’m also looking for a few people to try onboarding or a YNAB import with me over a quick Zoom or Google Meet, then tell me where it feels confusing, awkward, or incomplete.

If you are interested in that, or in helping test the mobile app, we’ll share sign-up links for both next Sunday here, and check out r/ReadyCents. Mobile public beta is not open just yet, but early feedback will directly shape it.

https://preview.redd.it/03fjs17zpith1.png?width=1254&format=png&auto=webp&s=d61d686f95260e92bbc335db9cf346a4b76b792e

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u/JarodGabriel — 11 days ago

PocketSmith Pressed Pause on Canadian Connectivity. Monarch Is Still Struggling. We’re Doubling Down.

In 2023 PocketSmith published a pretty remarkable post:

“Canada: Sorry, The Connection Just Isn't There Anymore.”

After years of dealing with unreliable Canadian bank feeds, PocketSmith decided to stop recommending its product to Canadians. Canadian connections would remain available, but it would no longer actively support Canadian feed errors or open tickets with its data providers.

That was more than three years ago.

This week, a Canadian Monarch Money user posted about their Scotiabank connection no longer working. Other users in the thread reported problems with RBC, TD and other Canadian institutions.

What I found particularly interesting was Monarch's response.

A Monarch representative explained that Canadian banks generally don't work well with the data providers Monarch uses and that connection problems are common in Canada.

And then they linked to that same 2023 PocketSmith article.

They also pointed to Monarch's money-back guarantee because they can't guarantee that a particular Canadian connection will work.

To me, that's the part of the conversation that matters.

This isn't a new problem. PocketSmith was talking about it in 2023. Canadian Monarch users are still talking about it in 2026. And the response they're getting is essentially that Canadian connectivity is difficult, the problem is widespread, and sometimes the connection simply isn't going to work.

There's another current Monarch thread about BMO where both Plaid and Finicity connections are reported as down, with some users being directed toward MX instead and no ETA for a fix.

None of this means Monarch or PocketSmith created the problem. They didn't. Canadian financial connectivity is genuinely difficult.

But there is a big difference between accepting that limitation and deciding that solving it is part of your job.

Finnomia is taking the second approach.

We're built in Canada specifically for Canadians, so we can't treat Canadian connectivity as an edge case or a secondary-market problem.

And one of the biggest competitive advantages we've invested in is Flinks.

Finnomia uses both Plaid and Flinks.

Plaid gives us broad North American coverage. Flinks gives us another connectivity network with a particularly strong focus on Canadian financial institutions.

That distinction matters.

If one provider is having problems with a Canadian institution, we're not necessarily stuck waiting for that provider to fix it. We can support Canadian institutions through Flinks where it provides the better connection, and we already have users successfully syncing Canadian institutions through Flinks that are currently the subject of connectivity complaints on other platforms.

For us, adding Flinks wasn't simply about putting another provider logo on a page. It was a deliberate investment in improving Canadian coverage and reducing our dependence on a connectivity ecosystem primarily designed around the much larger US market.

And we're continuing to invest on top of it.

A significant amount of our engineering work over the last several weeks has been focused on the connection layer itself: reconnect handling, MFA, background refreshes, stale connections, reconciliation and recovery.

This week we continued hardening that architecture around the situations where Canadian connections tend to become unreliable.

Reconnects now make better use of an existing connection before falling back to starting over, including recognizing when the institution simply needs another security step. We've also improved how Finnomia handles institutions that take a long time to respond, so a slow upstream provider is less likely to turn into a failed connection or an unnecessary reconnect for the user.

The broader goal is to make Finnomia more resilient to the parts of Canadian connectivity we can't control. We can't prevent a bank from changing its authentication flow or an aggregator from having an outage, but we can make sure Finnomia handles those situations intelligently and recovers cleanly when they happen.

Will Plaid + Flinks make every Canadian connection perfect?

No.

Banks change authentication systems. MFA changes. Aggregators have outages. Connections sometimes need to be re-established.

But our response to that isn't going to be, “Canadian connectivity is bad. Here's an article explaining why.”

It's going to be: What can we do about it?

Sometimes that's working directly with Plaid or Flinks on a problem. Sometimes it's routing an institution through the provider that works better in Canada. Sometimes it's changing Finnomia's own connection architecture so that an upstream problem doesn't become a worse experience for the person using the app.

PocketSmith decided in 2023 that Canadian connectivity had become bad enough to stop actively supporting Canadian feed problems.

Three years later, Monarch's own support team is linking Canadian users back to that same article.

We're going the other direction.

Canadian connectivity is difficult.

We're investing in it anyway.

Because for a Canadian personal finance platform, reliable Canadian connectivity isn't an optional feature.

It's the job.

Built in Canada. Built for Canada.

finnomia.ca

u/Budget-Jaguar4794 — 11 days ago