r/buildapcforme

Hey folks. My partner recently got into gaming and it looks like the one gaming PC won't be enough for the both of us. I'm currently running an AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7GHz with an AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB so I'm looking for something comparable. I've previously built a PC way back in the day so I feel confident I could do it again.

Thanks in advance for helping me!

New build or upgrade?

New build.

Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links)

Monitor: MSI MAG 275QF 27" WQHD RAPID IPS 180HZ
But honestly I'm not married to it. Will upgrade eventually I'm sure

PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games)

Gaming. Nioh 3, Enshrouded, Elden Ring Nightreign, Death Stranding 2, and the occasional game of Dwarf Fortress.

Purchase country? Near Micro Center?

Australia

Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate)

None.

Budget range? (Include tax considerations)

$3000 is the goal, but happy to go over for a good reason

WiFi or wired connection?

WiFi, but would love an ethernet port just in case.

Size/noise constraints?

I see a lot of mATX builds and don't understand - why not have the extra space? Unless there's some advantage in cost or power, a mid tower should be fine.

Color/lighting preferences?

Pref no RGB. Never been into the lights.

Any other specific needs?

As stated above, something that can at least compete with my current PC. Would like to run modern games at 1440p 60fps. 2TB SSD because I'm terrible at space management.

If possible, something somewhat future-proof or easily upgradeable would be worth splashing a little extra cash.

Thanks again!

Hey everyone,

I travel a lot for work and need a portable setup that doesn’t destroy my neck and wrists. I can’t stand tiny laptop screens and get pretty bad pain after a few hours on a regular laptop keyboard/trackpad.

What’s worked for you? I’m thinking maybe a lightweight laptop + portable monitor + ergonomic keyboard/mouse, but I’m open to whatever actually helps on the road. Bonus if it all fits in a carry-on and doesn’t weigh a ton.

• New build or upgrade?
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? I currently have Logi MX keys, Dell XPS 15 and Wireless Dell Mouse
• PC purpose? The computer is used editing, writing, and using LLMs.
• Purchase country? USA
• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate)
• Budget range? (Include tax considerations)
• WiFi or wired connection?
• Size/noise constraints? Big screen
• Color/lighting preferences?
• Any other specific needs?

Thanks in advance!

Not very knowledgeable at all about PC parts and what goes good together. I would appreciate it if you could include explanations for the parts chosen for learning purposes. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

New build or upgrade?
New Build.

Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links)
No existing parts or monitors to reuse.

PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/ games)
Gaming. League of Legends, BG3, etc.

Purchase country? Near Micro Center?
US, but no Micro Center.

Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate)
1 monitor. Something that matches the specs of PC.

Budget range? (Include tax considerations)
$1500-$2000.

WiFi or wired connection?
Mainly Wired connection.

Size/noise constraints?
Not too big of a tower. Preferably on the softer side.

Color/lighting preferences?
No preferences.

Any other specific needs?
Not at the moment.

• New build or upgrade?

Upgrade, but understanding that my current parts may not all be useful for this build.

• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links)

4 year old Ryzen 5 5600x

6 year old DDR4 RAM 16GB

6 year old 1tb SSD

4 year old B450 tomahawk max ii

6 year old Corsair rm 750 (I think this is the right link but I am not totally sure)

• PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games)

Gaming

• Purchase country? Near Micro Center?

US, near Micro Center

• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate)

None needed. Currently have 2 27" 1440p 144hz monitors. May upgrade eventually to 4k and/or 240hz, but not now.

• Budget range? (Include tax considerations)

~$2000. I have some flexibility, though.

• WiFi or wired connection?

Wired

• Size/noise constraints?

No. Are some computers really so noisy that it's a problem?

• Color/lighting preferences?

Prefer no color or lighting, but it's ok if it has some minor lights.

• Any other specific needs?

No

Thank you!!

• New build or upgrade?- new build
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links)- basic microsoft keyboard + mouse, hp 24mh for monitor
• PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games)- gaming (gta, roblox, minecrfat), and docs for school
• Purchase country? Near Micro Center? (If not US, list local vendors) Yes
• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate) no
• Budget range? (Include tax considerations) $1500
• WiFi or wired connection? Wifi
• Size/noise constraints? none
• Color/lighting preferences? RGB please. other things all black
• Any other specific needs?- Lian Li uni fans please (its ok if that makes the budget a little more) hyte y60 case preffered, or an nzxt or phanteks one.
• Thanks!

hi! i have posted a pc build request before but i have specific needs now that i actually have the money and know more. i have $1800 with some wiggle room and i do need peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc idk what else u need tbh). i am in the usa and i am 5 hours away from a microcenter so im not sure if its worth it, but i'm near orlando if there is anything good there to get parts. i'm planning on using it mainly for sims with a lot of mods but also for other steam gaming (tlou, twd, spider-man, gta v... cant think of any others rn lol) but id also like it to be able to run editing software like lightroom well. i was thinking an rx 9070 16gb for the gpu and 32gb of ddr5 but i feel like that ends up sooo expensive. i'd prefer a 2tb ssd but 1tb is fine as i have an external. i also don't really know what to choose for a cpu but i would like an amd. thanks for any help!

• New build or upgrade? - new
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links) - none
• PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games) - gaming and photo editing
• Purchase country? Near Micro Center? (If not US, list local vendors) - usa, microcenter 5 hrs away but if yk any good orlando stores let me know
• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate) - no idea. just 1
• Budget range? (Include tax considerations) - $1800 with wiggle room
• WiFi or wired connection? - wifi
• Size/noise constraints? - would prefer smaller
• Color/lighting preferences? - i dont rlly like leds
• Any other specific needs? - what i said before, 32gb ddr5 and 16gb vram

Hi there!

I'm looking to upgrade my living room set-up by replacing our Roku + million streaming platforms with a small PC that can stream and run some games on our living room TV. Ideally, I'm looking to keep prices as low as possible, as close to console prices as possible, but I'm not sure what is feasible in this day and age. Have any of you created something similar? Happy to hear any advice you may have as I go about this endeavour.

• New build or upgrade?
  • New Build
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links)
  • A TV connected with HDMI (1080p).
• PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games)
  • Primarily streaming, some gaming for couch co-op games. Dream would be able to run RDR2 and games like Paralives/Sims, but that can be with a future upgrade if needed.
• Purchase country? Near Micro Center?
  • Canada (Quebec), can go to Microcenter in NJ as needed
• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate)
  • None
• Budget range? (Include tax considerations)
  • Trying to keep it as low as possible! Ideally under $1K, bonus points if it's closer to $500. My hope is to get a cheap set-up going, which would replace a console + streaming platform. If needed, I'm happy to go used for some parts (I know RAM in particular is horrendous to buy new right now) to keep the price low, if you have suggestions for which parts are best to buy used!
• WiFi or wired connection?
  • WiFi ideally
• Size/noise constraints?
  • Ideally looking for a small PC to set up in our living room, hence why I was thinking Mini ITX. However, if it's significantly cheaper, maybe an unassuming larger case could work in the living
• Color/lighting preferences?
  • Discreet
• Any other specific needs?
  • Wireless keyboard and mouse suggestions are welcome!

Happy to answer any questions!

Hi,

I'm looking for a new build with a 1200 € budget, in Germany. The system should be gaming friendly. Wifi is optional (there's an ethernet connection), monitor, keyboard, peripherals are already there. Future upgradeability is nice to have. I'm interested in a reasonable balance between performance and noise; I'd be OK with a few dozen euros more for a less noisy build. Smaller cases are better.

I'm looking at something like this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/zjJJn2

I'd be interested in feedback:

• Anything where I could get better performance or a better price at comparable performance?
• Opinions on the motherboard and upgreadability?
• Any comments on the quality / merit of the respective parts?

Check list:

• New build
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse: common peripherals, display port monitor (4k)
• PC purpose: gaming & school use
• Purchase country? Germany
• Monitors needed? n/a
• Budget range? 1200 €
• WiFi or wired connection? Ethernet is available, Wifi a plus
• Size/noise constraints? Willing to spend a few dozen euros on a more silent build
• Color/lighting preferences? black
• Any other specific needs? n/a

Hello!

I have been investigating a bit, and made this list https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/tKtv4g that seems about right for my needs/budget, I am not sure if everything works together or not, it's my first build and therefore I'm still not sure of what I need to look for or not. The budget can go slightly more or less but around that. Also, for what I researched this should be a computer that allows for future upgrades, AM5 architecture on the motherboard, ... So if it's not the case I would like to get some feedback on how to get it to be more upgradable.
Since I am a bit lost, I would like some feedback on the list I did and some possible improvements, as well as some possible flaws on the current list!

• New build
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? AOC G4 24G4H4
• PC purpose? Gaming
• Purchase country? Belgium
• Monitors needed? 1 (better if there is the chance to upgrade to 2 in the future)
• Budget range? 1500€
• WiFi or wired connection? Wired connection shouldn't be an issue (keeping wifi would be appreciated if price difference is not that big)
• Size/noise constraints? none
• Color/lighting preferences? none
• Any other specific needs? none

Hello everyone! Thanks in advance for your help on this subject. I build my own pc 12 years ago when Hearthstone was cool, and Crysis 1 was the most taxing game on the market. Now my PC is FINALLY getting to the point where I feel its necessary to replace the whole thing as the speed is lacking. Especially when I run multiple programs, it struggles.

• New build or upgrade? - I'm thinking this will be a new build, but if the parts I have are serviceable, I'm not opposed to using them.
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? - unfortunately I don't remember the individual parts of the PC, but I do know that I have a relatively (physically) small build compared to a lot of what I see nowadays. I could probably move over the harddrives if there is no issue with that, and I COULD reuse the monitor, but I think I'd probably want to upgrade since this one is so old (not sure if this is just consumerism or if its a warranted opinion)
• PC purpose? - I am a musician and have recently gotten into recording and video editing on my computer, so I'd like the CPU to be able to handle those kinds of tasks. Also, the lower the sound of the PC is, the better since I don't want it in the background of recordings when I'm recording to PC. I also teach music lessons online via Zoom, if that helps!
• Purchase country? Near Micro Center? - I'm in Dallas for now (close to Micro Center), but am moving to Winnipeg, MB Canada soon. (another reason I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on the build now)
• Monitors needed? - I just use one 24" monitor, and it's plenty for me. I mostly care about the speed over the resolution, and honestly the price is more important for me.
• Budget range? - I'd like to keep the price under $1,500 USD
• WiFi or wired connection? - I have an old wireless card that probably could get updated, but I generally use ethernet through a power outlet splitter.
• Size/noise constraints? - I'd prefer smaller and quieter if possible (the sound is more important since I'm a recording musician)
• Color/lighting preferences? - no colors please lol
• Any other specific needs? - none that I can think of rn.

Again, thank you all!

I’m working on my first PC build and wanted to get some feedback before I buy the rest of the parts.

I already bought the Lian Li O11 Vision Compact case, and a family member gifted me the ASUS ROG Swift PG27UCDM OLED monitor, so I’m trying to build around those.

New build or upgrade? - New build
Existing parts/monitors to reuse? - Lian Li O11 Vision Compact case and ASUS ROG Swift PG27UCDM OLED monitor
PC purpose? - Gaming, 3D modeling, and engineering work. I’ll mostly use it for gaming, but I also need it to be solid for 3D modeling and engineering programs
Purchase country? Near Micro Center? - US. Not sure on Micro Center / not a request
Monitors needed? - No, I already have the ASUS ROG Swift PG27UCDM OLED monitor
Budget range? - Not a request, but I’m trying to keep it reasonable while still getting good performance
WiFi or wired connection? - WiFi would be nice, but I can also use wired
Size/noise constraints? - No major size constraints since I already have the case. I’d like it to run cool and not be crazy loud
Color/lighting preferences? - Black build with white accents. I want it to look clean and match that theme as much as possible
Any other specific needs? - I want it to perform well for gaming on the OLED monitor, but also be good for 3D modeling and engineering programs. I’m open to any part swaps or suggestions
Here’s the parts list I’m looking at right now:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
GPU: ASUS PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 12GB GDDR7 OC Edition
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX AM5 DDR5 ATX
RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5-5600 CL36 32GB
Storage: WD_BLACK SN7100 2TB NVMe SSD
PSU: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850W 80+ Gold Fully Modular
AIO: Corsair NAUTILUS RS 360mm
Fans: Lian Li UNI Fan SL-Infinity 120mm 3-packs

Would you guys change anything, or is there anything I should watch out for with this setup? Also open to suggestions that would fit the black/white accent look better.

• ⁠New build or upgrade?
NEW!
• ⁠Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links) Yes i have a 1080 32 inch from aoc
• ⁠PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games) gaming and some music production
• ⁠Purchase country? Near Micro Center? (If not US, list local vendors) Portugal can use websites like kuantokusta to compare prices or use these local vendors
pccomponentes.pt pcdiga.pt globaldata.com
• ⁠Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate) Not yet
• ⁠Budget range? (Include tax considerations) 1200€
• ⁠WiFi or wired connection? wifi would help alot
• ⁠Size/noise constraints?no
• ⁠Color/lighting preferences? either black or white
• ⁠Any other specific needs? am5 chip for upgradability since my main focus is to get a starter pc and upgrade it over time

my friend finally graduated so i'd like to buy him a new PC as a gift, mainly because his current PC is so disturbingly bad its insane, it barely runs League of Legends at 40 - 50fps and it takes him 5 - 10 mins to load into literally any game

• New build or upgrade? - New
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? - Logitech G502 Hero mouse (wireless one i think)
• PC purpose? - Mostly gaming, mainly CS2, Fortnite, League of Legends, Rocket League, PUBG, GTA 5 and very likely AAA games because he haven't had the chance to try anything new in over a decade. Also some basic stuff like browsing, streaming on Discord, listening to music while playing, etc etc
• Purchase country? - Hungary
• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate) - 2 monitors, main one 240hz 4K OLED (and also a 4K OLED TV if possible but it's not necessary)
• Budget range? (Include tax considerations) - 11 000 - 13 000eur with everything (PC itself, monitors, peripherals, etc) included (around 3,8mil to 4,6mil huf)
• WiFi or wired connection? - WiFi
• Size/noise constraints? - Size doesn't matter but it should be quiet
• Color/lighting preferences? - Doesn't matter, maybe a white/pink case and 1 of those cute pink headsets with the kitty ears (it'd be kinda funny :D)
• Any other specific needs? - A good quality microphone + microphone arm and a good quality webcam

thanks!

New build or upgrade? New build

​Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (Please list specific models or links) yes, psu, mobo, monitors 3x and if needed case, sata ssd

​PC purpose? (Which specific games or heavy apps will you be running?) Gaming

​Budget range? (What is the maximum amount you want to spend?) €600 and €250 in bol.com giftcards

​Monitors needed? (If yes: how many, size, resolution, and refresh rate/Hz?) No

​Connection: Wi-Fi or a wired internet connection? Wired but i already have mobo with wifi sooo

​Size/noise constraints? (Do you need a small case or a super quiet system?) No

​Color/lighting preferences? (Black/white theme, RGB lighting, or no lights?) I like some rgb

​Any other specific needs? Preferably a nvidea gpu and i have a am5 mobo so am5 and I like the montech fishtank type case the one with 3 rgb fans for 49.90 at megekko im probably gonna get that one unless there is a cheaper one that looks good

I recently got my hands on a broken IIgs with accessories and am looking to gut it and make it an awesome sleeper gaming pc. It would be my first build, and I am quite excited. Other subreddits kinda ignored me, so I’m looking here! If you have other creative ideas to use the other accessories (- monitor) for, I would be happy to see them. I will try to get back to every reply. Also considering retrobrighting, even though this is the wrong sub to ask about it. Thanks!

• New build or upgrade?

completely new

• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links)

guess just the case

• PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games)

For gaming. I generally play less intensive games like KSP, Minecraft, hk, etc , but that is probably only because of my current hardware restrictions. I would like to play more graphically intense games.

• Purchase country? Near Micro Center? (If not US, list local vendors)

US. I have a Micro Center close to family so count that

• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate)

I’m fine with a single monitor. I would like it to be 1440p 120 hz. OLED would be really nice but I don’t know if that’s possible. I have no gauge on size

• Budget range? (Include tax considerations)

~$1200-$1500

• WiFi or wired connection?

Definitley WiFi

• Size/noise constraints?

Parts should snugly fit in the Apple IIGS case

• Color/lighting preferences?

The parts would be internal, so not really, but white is nice

• Any other specific needs?

minimal tampering with the case, though I am okay with cutting of the current I/O ports fir the new one

Long story short, I'm trying to put together something for a friend of mine using parts I already have on hand. I'm just not sure what else I would need, and if any parts would conflict with each other.

• New build or upgrade? "New"
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FPvJn2
• PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games) Gaming
• Purchase country? Near Micro Center? (If not US, list local vendors) US, Yes near Micro Center
• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate) Worrying about that later.
• Budget range? (Include tax considerations) Trying to keep it cheap but also realistic.
• WiFi or wired connection? Assuming WiFi
• Size/noise constraints? None I'm aware of.
• Color/lighting preferences? Not important at all, but green is a favorite.
• Any other specific needs? Just to know what problems it'll probably run into, if any.

Hi everyone,

I’m currently living in Italy and I’m thinking about building my first desktop gaming PC. I don’t have much experience with desktop parts, so I’d really appreciate some advice before buying anything.

I currently use an Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 gaming laptop with an RTX 4070 Laptop GPU. The laptop is working fine, but I’m considering selling it and moving to a desktop because I want better long-term thermals, easier upgrades, and more stable performance in heavily modded games.

My main concern is whether this would be a real upgrade over my current laptop, or just an expensive sidegrade.

New build or upgrade? New build. I’m currently using an Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 laptop with an RTX 4070 Laptop GPU, and I’m considering selling it and moving to a desktop PC.

Existing parts/monitors to reuse? I already have a 1080p high refresh rate monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, and microphone. I do not need a main gaming monitor.

PC purpose? Mainly gaming at 1080p. I do not plan to play at 1440p for now.

The main games are: - Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord, heavily modded - Cities: Skylines II, also with mods/assets - Valorant and other competitive FPS games, but those already run fine and are not the main concern

My goal is not extreme FPS in every game. I mainly want a smoother experience in modded Bannerlord and modded Cities: Skylines II, ideally around 60 FPS or at least stable/comfortable gameplay at 1080p with high settings where possible.

I know that vanilla Bannerlord and vanilla Cities: Skylines II are different from modded gameplay. My performance issues mostly come from mods, bigger battles, assets, simulation load, and overall stability.

Purchase country? Near Micro Center? Italy. No Micro Center.

I can buy from Amazon.it, BPM Power, LDLC Italy, PCSpecialist, Drako, MediaWorld, Unieuro, or other Italy/EU stores if recommended.

Monitors needed? Maybe one secondary monitor. I already have my main 1080p high refresh rate gaming monitor, but I might want a cheap second monitor for Discord, browser, YouTube, guides, and general multitasking.

It does not need to be high refresh rate or gaming-focused. Value recommendations are welcome. The secondary monitor does not have to be included in the main PC budget unless there is a very good value option.

Budget range? Around €1500 including VAT/taxes. I can stretch toward €1700 if the performance jump is actually worth it, but I want to avoid overspending if the upgrade over my current RTX 4070 laptop would not be meaningful.

WiFi or wired connection? Wired is more than enough.

Size/noise constraints? No strict size constraints. I would prefer good airflow and reasonable noise levels.

Color/lighting preferences? No strong preference. I care more about performance, airflow, thermals, and value than RGB/aesthetics.

What I’m considering: I was originally thinking about something like: - Ryzen 5 7600 / 7600X - B650 motherboard - 32GB DDR5 - RTX 5060 Ti 8GB / RTX 5060 Ti 16GB / RTX 5070 - 1TB NVMe SSD - 650W or 750W Gold PSU - Airflow-focused case

Questions:

1. Would an RTX 5060 Ti 8GB desktop build actually be a meaningful upgrade over an RTX 4070 laptop for my use case, or would it be too small of a jump?

2. Is the RTX 5060 Ti 16GB worth considering, or is it too close in price to an RTX 5070?

3. For modded Bannerlord and Cities: Skylines II at 1080p, should I prioritize GPU, CPU, or 32GB RAM more?

4. Would you recommend staying with a Ryzen 5 7600/7600X, or should I stretch to something like a 7800X3D for these simulation/mod-heavy games?

5. Is 16GB RAM acceptable as a temporary choice, or should I absolutely start with 32GB for this use case?

Any other specific needs? - Nvidia GPU preferred - I care more about stable performance, thermals, and upgradeability than RGB/aesthetics - I would prefer not to waste money on parts that do not meaningfully improve performance - Any Italy/EU-specific part recommendations or PCPartPicker Italy lists would be very helpful

Thanks!

-New build or upgrade?

new build

-Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links)

i have a 1440p 144hz monitor id be using

-PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games)

gaming/streaming/coding/app development (fortnite at max graphics at 1440p with min 120fps ideally 144+fps (only capped bc of current monitor))

-Purchase country? Near Micro Center?

canada, no

-Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate)

none needed

-Budget range? (Include tax considerations)

i have 4800 im willing to spend on this but would like to not spend more than 4500

-WiFi or wired connection?

both preferably

-Size/noise constraints?

no but im looking to hopefully to put this on my desk to minimize dust buildup and i id prefer if it didnt sound like a jet engine or was unreasonably loud :)

-Color/lighting preferences?

rgb would be cool but not needed and all dark/black would be nice too but if its at performance cost or is more pricey then i dont mind mismatch

-Any other specific needs?

- at least one displayport

-ports for my speakers (basic pc speakers)

- would like if it has a usb c port but not needed

i need this pc to last me quite a while (5+yrs while hopefully still being able to use high/ultra settings) as i think this will be the only time id be able to build a pc with the rising prices

please and thank you guys :)

• New build or upgrade? New build
• Existing parts/monitors to reuse? (List with models/links) None
• PC purpose? (Gaming, editing, etc. List apps/games) This PC will be hooked to my LG C1 and will be the replacement for my PS5, it will be used for gaming 100% and some modern nintendo consoles emulation
• Purchase country? Near Micro Center? (If not US, list local vendors) France
• Monitors needed? (Number, size, resolution, refresh rate) No
• Budget range? (Include tax considerations) 2000€, willing to go over budget if worth the money
• WiFi or wired connection? Both
• Size/noise constraints? Hopefully the PC won't sound like a jet engine but aside from that no contraint
• Color/lighting preferences? Something with glass so I can see the components working, I don't like RGB stuff though
• Any other specific needs? Will this budget be able to sustain 1440p@60fps with decent graphics for the foreseeable future ? And I'd want a 2 TB SSD if possible.