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Joseph Marin LeBeau was born in Saint-Placide, Quebec, Canada in Jan 1851. He lived there until he was a teenager before moving to the states & marrying Delia Desnoyers in Feb 1872 in Chicago, IL. They had 2 children in Chicago in 1873 & 1874, then returned to Quebec (allegedly to Longueuil) for several years so Joseph (who learned the carpenters trade) could run a planing mill. While there, they had 3 more children; first 2 of which were baptized in St. Antoine de Longueuil, Chambly, Quebec in 1876 & 1877 and the other was baptized at Ste-Angélique in Papineauville, Quebec in 1877 (that’s not a typo. Delia had 2 babies in 1 year ~ 11mths apart). A US census shows they returned to the states in 1880. Can anyone find evidence of Joseph living in Canada from 1875-1880? Such as land ownership or something related to his running a planing mill? I have spent many hours searching censuses, loans, notaries, etc on Ancestry, Family Search, and BanQ and keep coming up empty. I have a baptismal record for Joseph and a US death cert but need a Canadian secondary piece of evidence for my citizenship app. Thank you!

Hello,

I am making a sort of book about a family that migrated into Canada from the United States in 1900-1911.

What sorts of IDs did they have at that point in time?

Thanks,

Theo

Hi All! My CIT-0001 application has been submitted but I have not yet received an AOR. I thought I had a slam dunk with certified baptism records for Gen 0, 1, 2 who were all born pre-issuance of birth certificates.

With the evolving rules, I feel the need to beef up in anticipation of IRCC asking for more documentation.

What I have:

Gen 0- Born in Saint John, NB 1840. Her parents immigrated to Canada from Ireland as single people and then married in Saint John in 1839.

certified baptism record from the New Brunswick Catholic church. I also have her parents certified marriage record from the same church ( I did not submit)

Death record USA(I did not submit) it shows accurate birthplace, birthdate is incorrect, father's name and birthplace (Ireland) correct.

What I'm hoping for and have been unable to find: An additional Canadian record, Canadian Census record or any kind of immigration/border crossing.

The family shows up on the 1860 Chicago census. I've looked in the 1841 Canadian census and cannot find them. Lots of possible misspellings of their names. I haven't found any border crossings. Gen 0 siblings born in Canada up until 1848. so I know they were in Canada in 1848 and a sibling born in Illinois about 1850 puts them in the USA.

Before 1839 parents were likely in Ireland

1841 They are in Canada

1850 They are likely in Illinois

1860 They are in the Illinois US census

(x-posted in r/genealogy)

Hi all, I’m searching for a record of birth of baptism for an ancestor named William (probably Peter) Palmer born in Leeds County, Ontario, Canada around 1834-1836.

I know civil registrations weren’t a thing yet, but I haven’t found a baptismal record for him either. No marriage record for the parents yet, either (Noah Palmer and Jane Main, married likely in 1833). The family always identified as Episcopal Methodist on census records, but I think there weren’t a lot of established churches at that time, so I understand people sometimes used whatever denomination of reverend was passing through as a circuit rider. I contacted the United Church Archives who punted me off to a local church, St. Andrew’s (and also told me to hire a private genealogist), and I’m waiting to hear back from them.

I also purchased a transcription of the 1830-1850 Brockville Recorder newspaper records from the Leeds & Grenville branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society and haven’t found anything there either. I have a request in with them, but their automated response is saying they have an indefinite wait.

I have records for William’s father Noah Palmer in Yonge Township, Leeds County, in 1828, and believe his mother, Jane Main was born in 1813 in the Dundas county area. Her brother William was baptized at St. Andrew’s in 1797, but she was born during the war of 1812 so I haven’t found a baptismal record for her either. Her family lived in the Edwardsburg/Charlottenville area so I’m not even sure how she met and married Noah Palmer. She was the daughter of a UEL and even submitted a successful DUE land petition, so I have a hard time believing there are NO more surviving records out there of her and her family members!!!

All I have for William Palmer is the 1851 Canadian census and then a smattering of American records after he moved to the US around 1857. His death record states father as “unknown Palmer” and mother as “unknown” so I can’t even use that to link him to Noah and Jane. That’s all I need, is something stronger than a census linking William Palmer + his parents Noah and Jane Palmer.

He had several siblings and I can’t find anything for them either. Maybe the family wasn’t religious ???

TLDR: where else should I look for Leeds County, Ontario marriage and baptismal records around 1830s?

I realized I don’t have the certificate of no record found for an ancestor. All records were lost in the 1906 earthquake and subsequent fires. I do have her marriage and death certificates, which all state her place of birth and her parents. Since I can send in additional documents later, and the line is so long, should I send in the application as is, and add this in later? I have everything else and hate to wait unnecessarily.

Has anyone had success using US issued death certificates showing someone was born in Canada? I am finding several relatives who were born prior to the issuance of birth certificates but they died while death certificates were issued. And yes, I have letters indicating no birth certificates exist.

Has anyone had success using US issued death certificates showing someone was born in Canada? I am finding several relatives who were born prior to the issuance of birth certificates but they died while death certificates were issued. And yes, I have letters indicating no birth certificates exist.

At long last, I‘m pretty sure I’ve figured out a bunch of oddball birth records I keep tripping over in documenting C3 lineage - my G0’s dad has a small herd of double cousins. So the G -2 (?) and his brother married sisters in Sorel, Quebec in the 1830s and started having kids. At some point G -1’s uncle and his family moved to Ontario. My G0 was born in Sorel as well, before his parents moved the family briefly to *the same place in Ontario* (where two sisters were born) before continuing on to Detroit.

Needless to say, the kids are all of an age and have *so* many of the same names - specifically, my G -1 has the same first name as his uncle (of the double cousins) and my G0 has a grandfather, uncle, and I think second cousin all with the same first name. The paternal last name is fairly unusual - easy to find the whole herd on Genealogique Quebec when adding “Sorel” as the place name. (The maternal last name is also Scottish - more common, but a little more unusual in Quebec.)

I know multiple generations with the same name is common, but is it worth formally explaining there are double cousins in both Quebec and Ontario? And if so, is there a standard? Mostly asking because it confused the hell out of me for a solid month - and I knew who I was looking for. Thanks!

I'm doing research for a family member. I've put looking for a birth certificate for her Grandmother on hold, and went looking for her Great-Grandmother. I've found a birth certificate which matches the parents perfectly....but not the date of birth or name/spelling of Great-Grandma.

Great-Grandmother was Amelia Ellen Herrling. As far as we know she was born 21 March 1886 in Agassiz in the Fraser Valley in British Columbia. Her mother was Mary Caroline Ling born 15 August 1860. Her husband was Charles August Herrling born 10 January 1826 in Hungary. They would have been 16 and 49 when they married.

Charles Herrling is reported to have cleared a crown grant of land in Yale District in 1858, and Herrling Island is still named after him. It is just north of Popkum First Nations reserve, which is likely the reason Charles and Mary met.

This birth certificate from Royal BC Museum shows the parents as Charles A. Herrling and Mary Herrling Mary Ling.

The name of the Baby appears to be Emma Herrling and the date of birth is November 17th 1884. Charles A. Herling is reporting the birth 19th May 1884.

Is it possible the name Amelia is being mistranscribed as Emilia or Emma ? Even if so, how can it explain the two year discrepancy and a winter birth instead of a spring birth ? Is it possible that this could be another child of a couple, but if so why does record of her appear on no existing family trees ?

https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/dae86391-9123-4753-ae9f-34f735049426