r/deathnote

In Light’s case, everyone who had ownership of the Death Note was unhinged and not completely ideal, but they technically “worked” for whatever plan he needed at the time. Light is supposed to be this super genius with incredible deductive reasoning skills, and he gave Mikami a plan where he was supposed to act as Kira because his lord and savior, the one person he looked up to more than anyone, couldn’t move freely.
The plan was for Mikami to send Takada the names of the criminals while it looked like she was carrying out Kira’s judgments. So when Takada was publicly kidnapped, Mikami knew that his God, Kira, had no way to move freely beyond Takada and that if she was captured, she needed to be eliminated.
I feel like Light should have been able to deduce before the Yellow Box meeting that there was a chance Mikami acted on his own. If I was Light, that would’ve been my first thought. I would’ve been asking myself if there was any oversight in my plan because Mikami was the exact type of person to take matters into his own hands if he thought it was protecting Kira. Instead, Light just assumed Mikami followed the plan perfectly without stopping to consider that possibility.

Firstly the results of the trap. Although it narrowed down Kiras location to one of 300 million people in Japan and revealed the limits of his power, Light already knows the death note is somewhat limited but light HIMSELF doesnt think he’s limited. L however, did this infront of every police officer in japan, willing to sacrifice any lives and basically shows that anyone with their name and face public who defies kira will die. Which only makes most police literally resign from the kira case later.

Light reacts to the trap very oddly to some people, but it makes sense as to why he reacted like this.

When L did the brilliant “i am L” play, when light gets home he is FURIOUS, ANGRY, SWEATING, hands against his head screaming “DAMN IT HE GOT ME.” When L does the Lind L Tailor trap, Light and him do their little “i will hunt you down and eliminate you, i am justice” dynamic. Light after the Lind L Tailor trap only feels more motivated because he immediately sees the flaw in this trap.

We know this because literally in the next episode, light exploits the flaw by revealing some of the powers of the death note to cause mass distrust between L and the Police. Light continues and forces L to reveal his face because of the unfairness of L to the police. “L doesnt have to show his name or face but we do when we oppose kira” is what the cops think. The death note needs a name AND a face to kill and by episode 6 Light pretty much already has L’s face.

Literally one of the detectives say verbatim “it seemed impressive in the moment but…” and went on to explain the police’s motivation to distrust L.

So if the trap only motivated Light even more and allowed him to exploit its weakness causing him to already have 50% of what he needs to kill L a few episodes into the show, what do you think the narrative is trying to portray especially when other plays by L have caused light to react much fiercer?

With that being said L psychologically profiling kira, the “I’m L,” and the note trap, all showcase L’s brilliance far more than the Lind L Tailor trap. Not to mention he tried something of the same concept with the 1500 fbi agents but light saw through it immediately cause he’s not falling for the same trick twice

Side note: Light continues to kill in Japan to bring L closer to place his headquarters in japan when L lowkey couldve js kept doing it from england until light REALLY pushed him

I feel like the side characters in Death Note don't get enough love, so I thought I'd ask the question. :)

Personally, I really love Aizawa, I actually think he might be my second favourite character after L.

Chief Yagami is also really well written imo, and Naomi could have been a cool addition given the time. It's a shame she was given so little screen time.

On my first watch of Death Note the anime, I felt like L's intelligence got hugely nerfed after the whole confinement process. Rewatching again, I don't feel as strongly about it, but I still feel his effectiveness fluctuated quite a bit. Curious what other people would regard as times when he was significantly less competent compared to his average self. Here's my list:

1. L isn't blind to the social dynamics of the investigation team, so the fact that he is never able to convince any of the police force members of Light's guilt is a serious failure in my opinion. He was already sure before the cafe scene, and even more sure afterwards, and if he had recorded that discussion, then even the less intelligent members of the force could understand why that discussion was already incriminating. He had many other opportunities, and I don't think the police force was too dumb to understand, more that he never bothered trying harder to bridge the gap.
2. Interrogation of Misa and Light without their memories. I assume there's a lot not shown on screen, but L had SO much time to probe their memories and ways of thinking, yet he only seems to do a tiny bit of this. When Misa and Light lost their memories, it wasn't as simple as "they lost all memory of the death note" -- their memories were warped in a particular way, almost as though they were their pre-deathnote selves while also taking actions that were slightly out of the ordinary for them. This memory warping is certain to have many quirky patterns under interrogation, but L only scratches the surface. Light might even have become self-aware that he did lots of things he couldn't explain or remember properly. They could even have found some concrete evidence of him having modified memories or even protecting the notebook in his room. One example: Light might be able to remember he bought an expensive mini TV and acknowledge that he has false memories around why he bought it and then threw it away.
3. Not picking up on Rem's body language. Rem isn't particularly careful and tries to be stoic for everything and then suddenly pays a lot of attention to Light and Misa. L didn't seem to notice this lack of neutrality.
4. Not bugging Misa or Light after they're free. L has so many resources and is willing to do things without the police force knowing. Even after the fake 13 day rule, he is still 100% sure Light and Misa were Kira 1 and 2, there's no reason not to keep tracking Misa's behavior after her release, or bug her conversations with Light when they meet at headquarters or just outside it. They didn't have any other leads, and even with the 13 day rule casting doubt, it doesn't nullify all the prior evidence. L should have immediately acted as though the 13 day rule were fake, not drop his guard while suggesting it be put to the test.

I honestly think the Japanese Task Force played a role in L’s death, not directly, but by constantly resisting him and slowing the investigation when he was actually right from the beginning.
From the start, there was already a major issue: the Task Force had a leak, which is exactly how Kira was getting police information. L correctly narrowed Kira down to a very small profile early on, someone in Japan, a student, and someone connected to police files. That already strongly pointed toward Light Yagami. Even without hard proof, his deductions were extremely accurate and logical.
The problem is that the Task Force constantly didn’t fully trust L, even though they were the ones dealing with the leak in the first place. Instead of fully backing him and taking his conclusions seriously, they kept questioning his methods and acting like he was going too far,especially when he detained Light, who is the police chief’s son.
Then you also have Misa Amane showing up basically out of nowhere, immediately in love with Light, while openly idolizing Kira at the same time. That alone is already extremely suspicious since Light is supposedly working to catch Kira. On top of that, Misa is directly tied to the Second Kira case, including having her fingerprints on the tapes. To L, none of this clears Light, it only strengthens the suspicion. But instead of trusting that logic, the Task Force starts pushing back against L more than they question the suspects.
That’s not even mentioning how many coincidences stack up around Light and Misa together. From an investigative standpoint, it doesn’t make sense how often the Task Force brushed off things that should’ve raised even more suspicion, especially when L had already been correct about so many things.
Even the imprisonment situation shows this. L detains Light and Misa because they are his strongest suspects, but the Task Force starts doubting him and even pushing for their release, acting like L is being unreasonable. Meanwhile, L is still consistently following the only logical lead the case has.
Obviously, L doesn’t die because of the Task Force directly, Rem is the one who kills him. But my point is that their lack of trust, hesitation, and resistance slowed the investigation at key moments and gave Light more time to manipulate everything. If they had fully trusted L’s deductions and followed through on his lead earlier, the case could’ve moved much faster and L wouldn’t have been put in a position where Light could eventually set up his win.
So they didn’t kill L, but they definitely helped create the conditions that led to his downfall by not fully backing the one person who was actually right about Kira from the start.

When he was lying on the staircase during the end credit scene after Ryuk wrote his name, he felt he was going to die. But he was awake for a little bit before he closed his eyes. During that and the whole scene prior he’s visibly sad. What do u think was going through his mind before his eyes closed for good? As well as what was he thinking when he was running away during the flashback

(Anime) In the end, light cried and they played this sad music of him like he was a fallen deity dying in the sun on the stairs and shows Misa going to jump, its just sad someone's effort could be cut short due to a minor mistake by Mikami.

I’ve finished reading most of the manga, I just started 108, but the ending doesn’t make full sense to me with how the story happened.

Ryuk writing down Light’s name only make sense in a justicey way, not exactly a lore way

Earlier on in the manga, Ryuk and Rem switch ownership of their Death Notes as part of Light’s plan, (and it later being revealed that Ryuk actually dropped Sidoh’s death note doesn’t help the ending even more, in my opinion), but during the final chapter Ryuk says “I told you in the very beginning that I would be the one writing your name in the notebook when you die. That is the rule between the Shinigami who brings the notebook into the human realm and the first human who picks up the notebook.” So with the swap happening, Light wasn’t the human that first picked up Ryuk’s Death Note, he picked up Sidoh’s, but there’s also the fact that the remaining Death Note was Rem’s (which was also originally Gelus’), which Misa picked up first, meaning there is no logical lore reason for Ryuk to say that and write down Light’s name. There’s plenty of things that didn’t make sense to me after they killed off L, but to have the ending be such a failure to keep the story straight is crazy to me. I feel like I followed the story as closely as it allowed me to, so is there something I missed, or is that really how the story was meant to go?

I finally got to watch it as I was curious to see if it's as bad as everyone says it is.

It started out okay. Light found the Death Note, goes off killing criminals (which feels like a Final Destination knockoff) and L wants to investigate on who this Kira culprit is. Pretty simple stuff. I have no issues with the cast as anyone can portray as their original counterparts as long as they have done their characters well. Don't really care that Light and L are American as I'm not really that picky, but the highlight for me Willem Dafoe for acting Ryuk pretty well.

But my goodness, they completely dropped the ball hard when L crashed the fuck out over Watari gone missing as well as his death, wanting to kill Light. At this point, it really feels like I'm watching a parody of Death Note. I just skimmed through the rest of the film to see the end and uh, L wins? Alright. Light's not so bright, Mia is a complete joke, and L started out pretty good until he became a big cry baby that wants revenge.

This film went from a 6/10 to a 3. I'm usually pretty lax on live action adaptation and think many of the ones I have watched are enjoyable, but Death Note 2017 is really that terrible.

Plenty intense moments in this manga but the Aizawa moment just kills me

Why does everyone hate Near for no reason? He took risks that L didn't.

W deleted all of the data on the Kira case seconds before he died so Light couldn’t manipulate or delete any information, since he was part of the Japanese Task Force (JTF). It also meant Kira couldn’t learn about L’s successors.

Yes, L narrowed Kira’s location through the TV broadcast, and Near knew that Light had been L’s primary suspect. But the truth is the truth, L couldn’t prove it before he died. L formed too close of a bond with Light, and that was ultimately his downfall, even though he was incredibly close. Light was officially ruled out as a suspect, but Near obviously trusted his mentor and wasn’t just going to ignore years’ worth of L’s deductions because there wasn’t enough evidence to convict.

L died immediately after the Yotsuba Kira (the corporate Kira) was caught, which was exactly when L had begun suspecting Light again. Remember, Light intentionally imprisoned himself and relinquished ownership of the Death Note so he would lose his memories and be cleared using the fake rules. As soon as Higuchi was caught and Light touched the notebook again, he regained all of his memories. The Death Note was now confirmed as the murder weapon, and the existence of Shinigami was proven. Then L suddenly dies right after all of that? That’s extremely suspicious by itself.

Now put that aside for a second. L is dead, and Light conveniently takes over as “L” when the SPK is introduced. Light pretends L is still alive, but Near already knows L is dead. Light had absolutely no idea L had successors, so from Near’s perspective, how suspicious does it look that L’s main suspect is now secretly taking over L’s position while lying about L still being alive?

People act like Near just randomly knew about the notebook, but that’s simply not true.

Near learns the Death Note is in the possession of the Japanese police by interviewing officers who were present during Higuchi’s arrest. They overheard discussions about a “killer notebook.” (This wasn’t shown in the anime, it was in the manga.)
The fake L (Light/Kira) is unbelievably incompetent at catching Kira. Four to five years pass and the Kira investigation has made almost no progress at all. It’s almost like they aren’t actually trying. And whenever they do catch a “Kira,” it conveniently turns out to be another obvious decoy like the corporate Kira.
When the Director of the Japanese Police is kidnapped by Mello and is about to be exchanged for the Death Note, he is suddenly killed by Kira. Near realizes that almost nobody outside of the Task Force even knew about that exchange. That naturally makes the Task Force itself even more suspicious.
Near learns from Mello that some of the Death Note’s rules are fake. When he questions the Task Force, he discovers they have a Shinigami with them. He reasonably concludes that Kira is simply having the Shinigami lie. Because seriously… why would a literal god of death just voluntarily hang around a group of cops and tell them the complete truth?
As soon as Near publicly says he believes Kira is among the Task Force, Kira’s supporters somehow manage to discover the SPK headquarters and begin rioting outside. That’s not proof by itself, but it definitely doesn’t make the Task Force look any less suspicious.

I’ll even defend Light losing because most people say he never should have lost to Near, and I completely disagree. I loved L, but he had to die for the story to continue and to show what Kira had truly become. We watched Light manipulate his own father into dying, and he was even prepared to sacrifice his own sister if it meant protecting himself. That’s who Light became.

People also love saying Near randomly guessed Mikami was X-Kira, but that isn’t what happened.

Near suspected Mikami because of his television appearance. It wasn’t just that Mikami supported Kira, it was that he perfectly matched Kira’s ideology. He wasn’t simply defending Kira; he spoke as if he shared Kira’s exact sense of justice. On top of that, Mikami was literally a prosecutor. Think about how suspicious that is for a second. A prosecutor, someone whose entire job is enforcing justice through the legal system, openly shares the ideology of a mass murderer. That’s a huge red flag.

During that same broadcast, Mikami even used words like “delete” when referring to criminals. Kira constantly talked about “erasing” rotten people and cleansing the world, so Near notices that Mikami isn’t just another supporter, he’s speaking almost exactly like Kira.

Near already had a very strong suspicion that Light was Kira. If Light is leading the Japanese Task Force, trying to catch Kira while simultaneously proving he isn’t Kira because Near already suspects him, then he obviously can’t continue writing names himself. The logical solution is to find someone else to act as Kira.

But that person couldn’t just be any supporter. Light viewed himself as a god. He’s far too egotistical to entrust the Death Note to someone who didn’t completely share his beliefs. He needed someone who worshipped Kira’s ideology as much as he did.

Ironically, Light himself found Mikami through that same television broadcast, so it’s not some unbelievable leap that Near could make the exact same connection.

And Near didn’t magically point at Mikami and say, “Yep, that’s X-Kira.” He had Mikami placed under surveillance. The breakthrough only happened because Mello took a huge risk by kidnapping Takada, Kira’s public spokesperson. Mikami broke his normal routine to kill her himself, which led the SPK straight to the real Death Note. That one mistake exposed him as X-Kira and also revealed that there were both a fake notebook and a real notebook, allowing Near to set up the warehouse confrontation.

And sure, if you really want to argue that Near and Mello got “lucky,” the only real stroke of luck you could point to is Sidoh showing up because Ryuk had stolen his Death Note years earlier. But even then, that had nothing to do with L, Near, or Mello being handed a free win. Sidoh’s involvement was simply the consequence of Ryuk stealing his notebook long before the story reached its conclusion. He didn’t solve the case for them, expose Light, or outsmart Kira. Near still had to connect the pieces, Mello still had to take enormous risks, and Light still had to make the mistake that exposed him. If anything, Mello deserves even more credit because his actions forced Mikami to abandon his routine, which is what ultimately gave Near the opening he needed.

People give Near way too little credit. He didn’t win because of luck or plot armor. He inherited L’s suspicions, gathered years of new evidence, benefited from Mello’s reckless but crucial intervention, and patiently waited for Light’s ego to make him slip.

Near didn’t beat Light because he was smarter than L.

He beat Light because he finished the investigation L started… and because Light’s greatest weakness had always been his own arrogance. Light had SO MUCH ARROGANCE, he could have won easily making the eye deal; but through his "god complex" he wanted as much life as possible to be around to shape his "new world" Hence how "Lind. L. Taylor" was actually his first and fatal mistake; which was broadcast on television.

...have a mask at the Yellow Box Warehouse? Near knew Kira would have seen Lidner and Gevanni's faces before so there wasn't a point for them, but he said he and Rester were the only ones Kira would not have seen previously. So why didn't Rester get to wear a mask too, only Near?

If all his support dropped dead like Near said was possible, leaving only him and Kira facing each other, wouldn't he want his most important and loyal SPK member to still be standing with him and to protect him?

I have to say that I didn't like them at all.

I'm sorry, but this post is going to be a major rant about them and about some characters.

Sure, it was good to have new material from the franchise.

But after reading the both of them, I felt so sad and disappointed.

The stories are really sad and they don't add anything meaningful. If anything, there are some things that angered me because there were some characters that acted in a way they shouldn't and some that were completely useless and had no business being there.

The A-Kira story especially angered me. It was so, so unfair on so many levels.

I liked Minoru Tanaka and he didn't deserve to die at all.

This Shinigami realm had become a real joke with Ryuk always causing mayhem for apples and the Shinigami King is a real d*ck.

Minoru did nothing remotely as evil as Light did. I liked that so much because that's what I would do if I got that cursed book in my hands: not use it but sell it or make others pay me to not use it. All without taking lives and thus not taking responsibilities. That was so clever😬 I liked him a lot :(

I don't want to be a hater, really, I'm just so disappointed and I feel like it was a wasted potential. It was getting interesting with Trump and everything. I get it's a short story but the ending made me really sad. It's true that he instructed Ryuk to never contact him again and that Ryuk doesn't care at all about humans. But this death makes no sense. JUSTICE FOR MINORU.

Minoru was so hot, too! I love curly hair.

The C-Kira story was...bittersweet. The task force, I still don't get how they are still working in law enforcement even after they caused Light's death (and there are proof that he was shot).

There was too much Light glazing for my tastes.

Then the ending. This Kira just...offed himself after being called out. Just like that. We don't even get to see him or her once. Too much SPK and Police and no Kira at all.

And speaking about Near...

I didn't like at all the inclusion of L, aka Near, to do basically nothing at all in these stories. What was the point? Yeah, cool design and everything, but why include him if he isn't going to do anything? Why didn't he investigate like L did? I guess by seeing how he is portrayed in both C-Kira and A-Kira I have to say that guy needs therapy ASAP.

It was nerve wrecking to see him try to force himself to act like Lawliet would do in the C-Kira, to the point of splitting and dissociation, like he has to manipulate himself into thinking like L, like he's not allowed to be his own person anymore, which is genuintely horrifying. He even glazes Light JUST BECAUSE L USED TO RESPECT HIM Oh my Kami I was shocked when I read that panel.

He also keeps on carrying the L and Mello fingerpuppets on him, meaning he will never feel "whole" because they are dead, kinda confirming the fact that he's only a half of L. Damn, this was sad :(

And then they double down on him in the A-Kira because, he just gives up completely.

Wow, this is either a depiction of massive autistic burnout or a masterclass in how to ruin a character. Next One Shot I'll expect him writing his own name on the Death Note to get it over with and finally meet his idol *L* in the afterlife.

Since I don't want to be a total hater, I'd say that his adult design was cool, though. He looks so fine, both delicate and badass. Wish the character was better in those One Shots he had great potential in the manga, especially with the speech he and Light gave aboht justice in the finale, hmm totally wasted.

What about Ryuk? I am getting tired of him venting into the human world causing chaos. I wanted to see a One Shot taking place in the Shinigami world or to see Light's backstory.

This is how I feel about the C-Kira and A-Kira.

Hey guyzzz I am 19F

I have always been an anime fan for like 8 years ( since I was 11 tbh) .

And always wanted my parents to watch something peak instead of shit bollywood/ tollywood movies ( only few movies are exceptionally goated )

So they just finished watching ep 25 ( anime fans knows what happened in that episode 😆, my parents couldn't believe what happened 😭 they were a bit disappointed too )

But anyways I am happy that finally my parents watching anime .

Next I will show them aot , your name , spyx family, silent voice etc ( also pls suggest more anime names which I can show to my parents )