r/fourthwing

guys guys guyssss hear me out!!

violet tells bodhi his signet doesn't work on venin. bodhi has watched xaden defend their group FROM venin WITH his venin powers all this time. what if he decided to turn venin because he thinks he could possibly use his signet on the venin while staying "good" like he sees xaden trying to do? maybe he thinks he can save everyone like xaden? and then he realizes he's in over his head.

Doing a reread of fourth wing and noticed during threshing when Violet is overhearing Jack and Oren talk about hunting the feathertail he states “you know feather tails are useless in combat. They refuse to fight”

But it’s stated earlier by her no one has seen one outside the Vale in a long time or ever. So this info seems like venin-given info about irids of the past right?

I don’t know whether this has been mentioned before or not****

I think Naolin was tortured by Varrish in Samara.

1. Tairn comments that Samara is "a brutal place/outpost for a first assignment," but doesn't go into details.
2. When Violet first goes to Samara, she feels an "unpleasant familiarity." But she had NEVER been to Samara before. Even Lilith had never been stationed there. So, this isn't Violet's memory, it's Tairn's.
3. We know that Tairn took Solas's eye for a previously unknown reason. Varrish and Tairn have crossed paths before. I think the reason for this was the torture of Naolin. Naolin was probably a young lieutenant there, just like Xaden.
4. It's a mystery what Varrish's true goal is, but it might be to undermine Lilith's position. He might have wanted to use the Brennan angle/route for this. Through his signet, he could have realized that Naolin's weakness was Brennan and wanted to use that. I see him as someone hungry for power and status.
5. I don't know if these are about Naolin, but there is a letter from Lieutenant Colonel Degrensi to General Melgren stating that Varrish killed 3 people due to his horrific interrogation methods.

End up with someone else who would Xaden and Violet and up with, i mean completely alternate universe they never fall in love who do each of them end up with

The GODDAMN who one came before

1. Naolin is venin now (not the sage)
2. He is the Sage
3. He is a god (He encroached on Malek’s territory, and the consequences were dire)
4. A cured Venin
5. He turned into a Venin, yes, but then he died
6. The story of his burnout is true; he died six years ago in the Battle of Aretia

Now, that might be a weird title, but it's the name of the T Swift song ry said, Is bodhis

Here's some lyrics

"I'm addicted to the 'if only'"

"You had stopped and tilted your head

I still ponder what it meant now, now

Now, now, now, now

I tried searching faces on streets

What are the chances you'd be downtown

Downtown, downtown

Does it feel alright to not know me?

I'm addicted to the 'if only'"

"I look in people's windows

Transfixed by rose golden glows

They have their friends over to drink nice wine

I look in people's windows

In case you're at their table

What if your eyes looked up and met mine

One more time"

And i even saw a girl saying this is the bodhi loves violet confirmation

I saw a comment saying "no he loves imogen but she loves garrick"

But also hes spoken like five times across all books how do we know this shit

Does anyone know where I can find Spotless by Sarahkwut? It was one of my favourites and seems to have disappeared.

So, if we do the math, Violet gets assigned to the Quest Squad in January, and they arrive at Unnbriel about two months later. That means Dain had roughly two months to become somewhat conversational in Unnbrish, while also learning three other languages at the same time.
I know the fandom loves the “Aaric was never asked if he could speak those languages” meme and how he embarrassed Dain, but honestly, being able to get somewhat fluent in a language in just two months is incredibly impressive. Especially considering that Dain was learning three other languages simultaneously

Creds to sunsetrose7 on Tumblr for pointing this out

So I’ve been reading the series for the first time to catch up for Threshing Day! Fourth Wing was actually the first ever romantasy I read and I was so surprised at how much I LOVED it! I‘m a literature postgrad graduate and love SFF but hadn’t read any romantasy. Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised. I really thought Violet was a great protagonist, the romance was earned and I bought into it fully, the dragons were fantastic and the plot was insanely readable. I felt like a teenager all over again staying up late to know what happens!

I’ve just read Iron Flame this month and unfortunately didn’t love it. I found it just as readable and there were some fantastic plot twists, but a lot of things became quite frustrating to me: namely, Violet. Does it stop being quite so YA and filled with drama and Mary Sue behaviour in Onyx Storm? I want more on the world and the squad and Mira!! I want the relationship between her and Xaden to feel earned rather than filled with pointless conflict and I want to get less stuff thrown in just for an action sequence but rather because it truly feels relevant to the plot. It ended up losing a lot of its weight by the end because I felt Yarros just did too many things in a repetitive manner and I was getting frustrated. There were a lot of elements introduced here as well that I just did not understand! Like runes and wardstones etc

Please do follow along with me over on YouTube if you’re interested and want to get much more detailed reasons as to why I felt the way that I did but I really really need someone to talk to about this book! Because I was just upset with how up and down it was compared to Fourth Wing. And I have so many questions. Did anyone else feel the same? Does it improve?

Is there any duo that you can look at and say if Y didn't end up with X, they'd end up with Z.

I know a lot of people think rhi and ridoc

I swear i see so many people ship them and i see why I read a fic and it was actually good and obviously in fandom you can ship whoever but these two are just so popular and I find it funny considering we know nothing about bodhis love life like at all for all we know he has boyfriend or a girlfriend or both or he doesn't want a singal one

or at least alliance in some form

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After the climax, Xaden is ‘cured’ and he has a scene where he weeps uncontrollably with Sgaeyl for she stood by him.

I think it would so powerful to see him lose his control and admit/show his feelings for her.

What scenes do you want to see?

Im just confused on the second Signet stuff....

In IF when violet confronts Xaden about his second Signet she states it cause of the fact Sgael bonded his grandfather....

But of OS all of the marked ones have a second Signet and its stated its cause of the magic of the marks.

Did xaden just go with the grandparent thought cause he won't fully give info? Or is it possibly a chance for his to have a third signet?