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TMZ | No plea deal & latest in possible defense strategy

yea ok it’s TMZ, but at least they’ve been accurate about no pleas being discussed and have possible credible sources via the geragos connection

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u/Northern_Blue_Jay — 7 days ago
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Fox News: 'Palisades Fire deadlock fuels fear that ideology is creeping into jury box — and Mangione could be next'

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Fox news article had a ton of ads and links that made it annoying to read

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Former federal prosecutor warns of 'unprecedented' Mangione jury threat

Former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani sounded the alarm on jury nullification ahead of Luigi Mangione's federal trial, warning that Mangione is "probably the most popular accused murderer" he has seen in 25 years of practice.

A deadlocked jury for the man accused of sparking the inferno that led to the Palisades Fire has fueled fear that ideology is making its way into the jury box, with one former prosecutor concerned that it could impact Luigi Mangione's trial.

A federal judge on Friday declared a mistrial for the man accused of deliberately causing the Palisades Fire, Jonathan Rinderknecht, after jurors failed to reach a unanimous verdict. He was arrested in October 2025 and charged with destruction of property by means of fire, pleading not guilty after he was charged. Ten of the California jurors thought Rinderknecht was not guilty, while two thought he was.

A woman who identified herself as juror number four spoke to media outlets after the mistrial was declared, saying there was "no proof," adding that a retrial, which the government plans to do, would be a "waste of our American dollars."

Former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani told Fox News Digital this could be a case of jury nullification, but gave another reason why members of the jury may have been hesitant to convict Rinderknecht.

*"*This could be a case of jury nullification, or it could be a case where the jurors are blaming other people, or government, folks like Karen Bass, the Los Angeles FireDepartment," he said. "In this particular case, it took nine months for the Department of Justice to arrest and charge Jonathan Rinderknecht. And during that time, many Angelenos who lost their homes, and there are 12 people who died, were pointing the finger at our local officials saying that they were not prepared for the high winds and ultimately the most devastating fire in California hit his."

While the Rinderknecht deadlock may have been driven by anger at local officials, Rahmani said the Mangione case presents a far more direct nullification threat. Mangione is accused of assassinating UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompsonoutside a Manhattan hotel in December 2024, a killing that drew widespread public sympathy toward the alleged gunman.

With Rinderknecht's retrial set for mid-October, around the same time Mangione's federal trial could get underway, Rahmani warned prosecutors have little time to prepare for what he called an unprecedented jury threat.

"I do think the prosecution should be concerned about jury nullification in the Luigi Mangione case. He's probably the most popular accused murderer I've ever covered in my 25 years of practice," Rahmani said. "And depending on the surveys that you read, anywhere from 10 to 20% of people believe that he was justified in what he did."

He pointed out that Mangione just needs one person out of a 12 person jury to be sympathetic, and the numbers are in his favor.

"The reason why that's an important number is that you just need one out of 12 jurors if you're the defense. That's 8%. Mangione is a good looking guy, he is smart, he comes from a wealthy family and there's a line of people outside that courtroom every time he makes an appearance*,"* Rahmani said. "Both the feds and the Manhattan DA's office has to be very careful during jury selection and make sure that they remove any sympathetic Mangione jurors from the panel."

Even if the feds and Manhattan District Attorney's Office successfully remove sympathetic Mangione jurors from the panel, a different threat is still present, the former prosecutor said: stealth jurors*.*

Stealth jurors — those who hide their true biases to influence a verdict — could pose a serious problem for prosecutors in either of Mangione's cases, Rahmani said.

Luigi Mangione appears at a pretrial hearing in Manhattan Criminal Court in New York City on June 17, 2026. Mangione is accused of murdering UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in December 2024. (Pool via Barry Williams for New York Daily News)

"Stealth jurors are a huge problem and it is not easy to identify people that want to get on the panel. Most people don't want to serve as jurors," he said. "So when a juror actually wants to be on the panels, it's one of the most difficult jobs of an attorney to try to ferret them out."

For Mangione, Rahmani said his case differs from Rinderknecht because there may be some jurors who "want to put our health insurance industry on trial."

A sketch shows Jonathan Rinderknecht inside federal court in Orlando, Fla., on Oct. 9, 2025. He faced charges for allegedly starting a New Year's Day fire that killed 12 people in Pacific Palisades, Calif. (Neftali Melendez/Unknown)

Ultimately, the former federal prosecutor says the problem expands beyond any single case.

"I do believe jury nullification is more of an issue now than the past for two reasons. The country is more polarized and with social media, you have everyone following these trials in a way that you didn't have before when there was local media coverage only. Now people all over the country are following every single case, especially these high-profile true crime cases," he said.

Fox News Digital reached out to Mangione's defense team for comment.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Endorses Abdul El-Sayed in Crucial Michigan Senate Race - The New York Times #SinglePayerNow

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By Shane Goldmacher

July 2, 2026

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, one of the nation’s most prominent progressives, is endorsing Dr. Abdul El-Sayed for Senate in Michigan, wading into her first contested Senate primary of 2026 in one of the nation’s top battlegrounds.

Her endorsement, which she made in an interview with The New York Times, represents one of Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s most assertive moves so far this year to build up the left flank of the Democratic Party. And it puts the congresswoman from New York in direct conflict with Senator Chuck Schumer, who has backed a more moderate candidate, Representative Haley Stevens, who he argues is more electable.

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said she holds the opposite view. She made the case that it is Dr. El-Sayed who has energized voters and built the kind of campaign and coalition to deliver the crucial state for Democrats.

“Despite our ideological differences and whatever disagreements there are in the party, every single one of us sees this moment as existential,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said. “And I think many people are willing to put aside differences in order to give us the best chance at winning. And I think that Abdul gives us that right now.”

Her intervention could energize progressive activists, who see a potential champion in Dr. El-Sayed. It could also enrage establishment-minded Democrats who are fearful that the party will fumble away a crucial Senate seat in a year that favors Democrats by veering left in a battleground state that voted for President Trump in 2024.

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s endorsement follows a series of left-wing victories in competitive House primaries in deep-blue districts in Colorado and New York. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez did not endorse in those races. But the results have emboldened many on the left to believe that 2026 is the year to take power, not just from Republicans, but inside the Democratic Party itself.

The Michigan primary, scheduled for Aug. 4, is widely seen as the most consequential Democratic nominating contest left on the calendar this year.

The race pits Dr. El-Sayed, an outspoken progressive proponent of Medicare for all, against the moderate Ms. Stevens, who has been boosted by more than $16 million in super PAC spending, including millions from pro-Israel groups. Mallory McMorrow, a state senator who has built a national following of her own, has run as a progressive and tried to occupy an ideological middle ground between the other two.

Dr. El-Sayed, who would be the nation’s first Muslim senator, has emerged as the front-runner in recent public and private polls.

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was careful not to directly criticize Ms. Stevens, who serves in the House with her. But she effusively praised Dr. El-Sayed’s communications skills, which she said are as essential to modern campaigning as anything else.

“Just like it’s extremely challenging to run candidates that can’t raise money, it’s also just as challenging to run a candidate that can’t message online,” said Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, who for years has been one of party’s magnets for attention on social media. “I think we’ve now kind of crossed this Rubicon where online and digital messaging is no longer a niche. It is a core competency, just like any other.”

Other Democrats fear that Dr. El-Sayed, who earned an endorsement last year from Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, and who pushed to “abolish ICE” in a recent ad, is too liberal for a state with a history of embracing centrist Democrats.

Whoever wins the Democratic nomination will face Mike Rogers, a Republican former congressman who lost in 2024 to Senator Elissa Slotkin, a Democrat, by the narrowest of margins: fewer than 20,000 votes.

In a separate interview Wednesday, Dr. El-Sayed said he was thrilled to receive “the A.O.C. seal of approval,” her first Senate endorsement of the cycle in a contested primary. He also recently won the backing of the United Auto Workers union, which has a storied history in the state.

“I’m honored for what her support says about what this campaign is building and what we’re fighting for,” he said. He also waved off fears about his electability.

“I think too many establishment Democrats are more afraid that I will win,” he said. “That’s really what they’re trying to avoid.”

He called out Mr. Schumer in particular.

“He doesn’t want to see me on the inside of the U.S. Senate,” Dr. El-Sayed said, adding that he would call out “the kind of politics where we take money from corporations and AIPAC to run milquetoast campaigns and don’t say anything about the problems that everyday people are facing.”

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez downplayed any breach with her state’s senior senator. Mr. Schumer is up for re-election in 2028, and she has been widely discussed as a potential primary challenger if he seeks re-election. “I don’t really see this through that lens,” she said of the endorsement, while also praising Mr. Schumer’s recruits in other states this year, including Ohio and Alaska. “It’s natural to not be in agreement 100 percent of the time on 100 percent of decisions.”

In some ways, the endorsement is unsurprising. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, now 36, supported Dr. El-Sayed, 41, in his insurgent run for governor — she endorsed him exactly eight years ago to the day — just after she won her first primary in 2018.

The two candidates share the goal of bringing both generational and ideological change to the Democratic Party. They are both millennials and protégés of Mr. Sanders, and both embrace an expansive vision of what government can do for the working class and are outspoken critics of some of Israel’s policies. When she talks about Dr. El-Sayed, their familiarity is evident in her use of his first name.

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez has brought her star power to endorsements both sparingly and strategically. She did not endorse Graham Platner in Maine, for instance, when the progressive backed by Mr. Sanders was locked in a primary against the state’s more moderate two-term governor.

She was also on the sidelines in her home state last month, when two left-wing candidates, Darializa Avila Chevalier and Brad Lander, ousted incumbent House Democrats, while a third candidate, Claire Valdez, won in an open seat against a Democrat backed by the old-guard establishment of Brooklyn. All three earned the backing of Mayor Zohran Mamdani of New York.

Nor did she endorse in Colorado, where Melat Kiros, a 29-year-old democratic socialist, defeated a 15-term incumbent, Representative Diana DeGette, on Tuesday.

So far, in fact, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez has backed no challengers to any of her colleagues in the House. But when she has endorsed, her blessing appears to have mattered.

She backed Democratic candidates for the House in four states — California, New Jersey, Montana and Pennsylvania — all of whom won contested primaries. That includes two solidly Democratic seats and two Republican-held seats that Democrats are hoping to flip this fall.

Even her lack of an endorsement can have an impact, as it appears to have done in San Francisco, where she pointedly did not back her former chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, who finished in third place without her support in the race to replace the retiring former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Dr. El-Sayed said it was unclear what role Ms. Ocasio-Cortez would play in the final weeks of the primary campaign, or whether she would appear on the trail or in ads. But he said change was in the air.

“People are demanding different,” he said.

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The defense leaving court today. They had no comment on Luigi being stuck in the elevator for 30 minutes.

u/Northern_Blue_Jay — 7 days ago