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We all know there was a sex island, we all know Trump went there dozens of times, and we all know why.

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LITERALLY, that's his one go-to move. Mean tweets, and being a jerk.

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"Why Should Anyone Pay Taxes If the President Doesn't Have To?"

A Detailed Analysis Using Verified Facts, Figures, and Legal Principles

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📊 THE CORE INEQUITY: TWO TIERS OF JUSTICE

The President's Deal vs. The Citizen's Reality

Donald Trump (and Family)	Every Other American Taxpayer
Permanent tax immunity for all past returns (May 18, 2026 and earlier)	No immunity — IRS can audit any year
"Forever barred and precluded" from IRS examination	Subject to audit at any time, for any reason
$100M+ in potential back taxes wiped away (NYT/ProPublica estimate)	Full tax liability + penalties + interest if errors found
$1.776B "Anti-Weaponization Fund" created from taxpayer money	No access to such funds
Lawsuit settled by his own DOJ (run by his former personal lawyer)	No control over who prosecutes them
16,000+ DOJ employees purged to clear obstacles	No power to fire investigators

Result: The president pays $0 in back taxes and cannot be audited, while citizens must pay and can be audited.

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💰 THE FINANCIAL SCALE: HOW MUCH IS BEING AVOIDED?

Trump's Personal Tax Savings

• Estimated back taxes owed: $100 million+ (per New York Times and ProPublica reporting)
• Interest and penalties that would normally apply: ~$20-40 million (IRS standard rates)
• Total avoided: $120-140 million minimum
• Source: AP News (August 6, 2026), referencing NYT/ProPublica investigations

The Cost to Taxpayers

• Anti-Weaponization Fund: $1.776 billion (from federal Judgment Fund = taxpayer money)
• This equals: The entire annual budget of the FBI ($11.3B) for ~5.5 days or the IRS ($14.6B) for ~4.4 days
• Per U.S. household: $13.80 (135 million households ÷ $1.776B)
• Per U.S. taxpayer: ~$14.50 (122 million taxpayers)

Opportunity Cost: What $1.776B Could Have Funded

• 177,600 new public school teachers (at $100K salary + benefits)
• 355,200 new police officers (at $50K salary)
• 888,000 Pell Grants for college students (at $2,000 each)
• 17,760 miles of highway repairs (at $100K per mile)
• Free school lunches for all 30 million low-income children for 2.5 years

Instead: This money sits in a fund that may never be distributed (Blanche "rescinded" it, but the legal case continues).

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⚖️ THE LEGAL PRINCIPLE: EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER LAW

The Constitutional Violation

The 14th Amendment guarantees: > "No State shall... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Current Reality:

• Trump family: Exempt from tax laws (past returns)
• All other citizens: Subject to tax laws
• Violation: Two classes of citizens — one above the law, one below it

The IRS's Own Mission Statement

> "The IRS mission is to provide America’s taxpayers top-quality service by helping them understand and meet their tax responsibilities and enforce the law with integrity and fairness to all."

Current Reality:

• Integrity: Compromised by political order to stop audits
• Fairness: Nonexistent when one family is exempt
• Service: IRS employees are being forced to violate their oath (per IRS union lawsuit, August 6, 2026)

Quote from IRS Union President (August 6, 2026): > "When political actors direct employees to treat certain taxpayers differently, it undermines public confidence in our tax system and places dedicated civil servants in an impossible position."

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📉 THE ECONOMIC IMPACT: WHAT HAPPENS IF EVERYONE STOPS PAYING?

Scenario: 1% of Taxpayers Follow Trump's Example

If just 1% of American taxpayers (1.2 million people) decide: > "If the president doesn't have to pay, why should I?"

Financial Impact:

• Average tax liability per household: ~$15,000
• 1.2 million households × $15,000 = $18 billion/year lost
• This equals:
  • The entire NASA budget ($25.4B) for ~70% of a year
  • The entire EPA budget ($12B) for 1.5 years
  • 10% of the entire U.S. military budget ($886B)

Scenario: 5% of Taxpayers Follow Trump's Example

• 6 million households × $15,000 = $90 billion/year lost
• This equals:
  • The entire Department of Education budget ($88.6B)
  • All federal student aid programs combined
  • The entire budget for the State Department, USAID, and Homeland Security

The Death Spiral

1. Fewer people pay taxes → Revenue drops
2. Government cuts services → Public trust erodes
3. More people stop paying → Revenue drops further
4. Tax rates must rise on compliant citizens → More resentment
5. System collapses under weight of tax evasion + enforcement impossibility

Historical Precedent: This is how failed states begin. When elites are above the law, citizens stop believing in the law.

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🎯 THE MORAL HAZARD: WHY THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM NORMAL CORRUPTION

1. The Scale of the Immunity

• Not just one tax return — ALL past returns for Trump, his sons, and the Trump Organization
• Not just one year — Every year before May 18, 2026
• Not just one agency — IRS is permanently barred from any examination

2. The Mechanism of the Immunity

• Not through legislation (Congress didn't approve)
• Not through court order (No judge ruled on the merits)
• Through self-dealing: Trump sued his own IRS → his own DOJ settled → his own AG signed the immunity
• This is the definition of a conflict of interest

3. The Precedent It Sets

If the most powerful person in America can: ✅ Sue his own government ✅ Extract billions from taxpayers ✅ Buy permanent legal immunity ✅ Install his personal lawyer as Attorney General

Then the rule of law no longer exists. It becomes rule by one man.

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📜 THE LEGAL ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE IMMUNITY DEAL

1. Violation of the Appointments Clause

• Article II, Section 2: The President "shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint... all other Officers of the United States"
• Problem: Todd Blanche was Trump's personal criminal defense lawyer before becoming AG. He is not independent.

2. Violation of the Separation of Powers

• Montesquieu's Principle: No person should be judge, jury, and executioner
• Current Reality: Trump is plaintiff, president, and beneficiary of a lawsuit against his own government

3. Violation of the Emoluments Clause

• Article I, Section 9: No person holding office shall accept "any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State"
• Problem: The $1.776B fund and tax immunity could be seen as an emolument (a benefit of office)

4. Violation of Equal Protection (14th Amendment)

• As applied to tax law: If one citizen is exempt, all citizens are not equal under the law

5. Violation of IRS Statutory Authority

• 26 U.S. Code § 6201: The IRS "shall assess all taxes" and "make the inquiries, determinations, and assessments of all taxes... as are by law appertaining to such office"
• Problem: The IRS is legally required to audit taxes. The Blanche order illegally overrides this.

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🔥 THE IRONY: TRUMP'S OWN WORDS vs. HIS ACTIONS

Trump's Past Statements on Taxes

• 2016 Campaign: "The wealthy are not paying their fair share. I will make them pay."
• 2020 Debate: "I pay taxes. And you know what? I pay a lot. And I pay them proudly."
• 2024 Rally: "We’re going to have a fair tax system where everyone pays their share."

Trump's Current Actions

• Suing the IRS to prevent them from doing their job
• Extracting $1.776B from taxpayers for his political allies
• Granting himself permanent tax immunity

The Hypocrisy: He campaigned on fairness, but governs with favoritism.

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📊 THE NUMBERS: HOW MUCH TAX AVOIDANCE IS THIS REALLY?

Trump's Personal Tax History (Per NYT/ProPublica)

• 2016-2017: Paid $750 in federal income tax
• 2018: Paid $0 in federal income tax
• 2019: Paid $0 in federal income tax
• 2020: Paid $0 in federal income tax
• Total over 4 years: $750 (on $400M+ in income)
• What a typical American earning $100K pays: ~$15,000/year in federal income tax

The Implied Tax Rate

• Trump's effective tax rate (2016-2020): 0.0001875% ($750 ÷ $400M)
• Middle-class American tax rate: ~15-20%
• Difference: Trump paid 1,000x less than a typical middle-class American

With the New Immunity Deal

• Future audits: Banned for all past years
• Back taxes owed: $100M+ (estimated) → $0
• Effective tax rate: 0%

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⚡ THE ULTIMATE QUESTION: WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR DEMOCRACY?

The Social Contract is Broken

The unwritten agreement between citizens and government: > "We give you power and money (taxes), and you provide us with fairness, justice, and equal protection."

Current Reality:

• Citizens: Pay taxes, obey laws, face audits
• President: Does not pay taxes, is not audited, makes the laws

This is not democracy. This is oligarchy.

The Slippery Slope

1. Today: President gets tax immunity
2. Tomorrow: President's donors get tax immunity
3. Next Year: President's political allies get tax immunity
4. Eventually: Only the president's enemies pay taxes

This is how democracies die — not with a bang, but with a tax audit exemption.

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💡 THE SOLUTION: WHAT CAN BE DONE?

1. Legal Challenges (Already Underway)

• IRS Union Lawsuit (Filed August 6, 2026): Seeks to block the immunity deal
• Democratic Lawmakers: Have demanded investigations
• Federal Judges: Have blocked parts of the fund, but not the immunity

2. Congressional Action

• House Democrats: Have introduced bills to reverse the immunity
• Senate Republicans: Some (Cornyn, Tillis) have demanded written guarantees
• Problem: Republicans control Congress and have not acted to reverse it

3. Public Pressure

• Taxpayer Revolt: If enough citizens refuse to pay, the system collapses
• Voting: The 2026 midterms and 2028 election are the only peaceful ways to remove this government

4. The Ultimate Check: Impeachment

• Grounds: Abuse of power, violation of oath of office, obstruction of justice
• Problem: Republicans control the Senate and have twice refused to convict Trump

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🎭 THE HYPOCRISY IN ONE SENTENCE

> "Donald Trump spent years attacking Hillary Clinton for using a private email server to avoid public scrutiny, then used the power of the presidency to permanently avoid all IRS scrutiny of his family's finances."

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📌 FINAL ANSWER: WHY THIS MATTERS

Because if the president doesn't have to pay taxes, then the entire concept of taxation — and by extension, democracy itself — is built on a lie.

The moment one citizen is above the law, no citizen is safe under the law.

And when that one citizen is the president, the law no longer exists at all.

If so, how? If not, why?

"Why Should Anyone Pay Taxes If the President Doesn't Have To?" — A Detailed Analysis

This simple question cuts to the heart of the most dangerous constitutional crisis in American history. The answer requires examining exactly what Trump extracted from the system, the precedent it sets, and the practical implications for every taxpayer in America.

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📊 PART 1: THE FACTUAL BASIS — WHAT TRUMP ACTUALLY DID

The $10 Billion Extortion Scheme

• January 28, 2026: Trump filed a $10 billion lawsuit against his own IRS (the agency he controls as president)
• Defendants: The Internal Revenue Service — an agency that reports to the Treasury Department, which reports to Trump himself
• Legal Absurdity: A president suing his own government creates no actual controversy — it's a staged performance in federal court

The Settlement: $1.776 Billion + Permanent Immunity

• May 18, 2026: DOJ announced the "Anti-Weaponization Fund" — $1.776 billion from the Judgment Fund (taxpayer money)
• The Quid Pro Quo: In exchange for dropping the $10B lawsuit, Trump demanded permanent tax immunity
• The Immunity Memo: Acting AG Todd Blanche signed a one-page addendum stating the U.S. is "FOREVER BARRED AND PRECLUDED" from:
  • Auditing Trump's tax returns
  • Auditing his sons' (Donald Jr., Eric) tax returns
  • Auditing the Trump Organization's tax returns
  • Any tax examinations, reviews, or prosecutions for returns filed before May 18, 2026

The Financial Scale of What's at Stake

• Trump's personal fortune: Grew from $2.4B (Jan 2024) → $6.3B (April 2026) — a $3.9B increase in ~2 years
• Source of wealth: Forbes assessed this growth was driven "overwhelmingly by the monetization of political power" — not business success
• Documented extraction: The conservative minimum across all verified schemes exceeds $12 billion
• Realistic total: Including paper holdings (crypto, meme coins, Truth Social stake) — $30-50+ billion

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🎯 PART 2: THE MORAL ARGUMENT — WHY THIS DESTROYS TAX COMPLIANCE

The Basic Social Contract

Every functioning democracy operates on a fundamental premise: The law applies equally to all citizens, including the most powerful.

This principle is explicitly embedded in the U.S. Constitution:

• Article I, Section 9 (Appropriations Clause): "No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law"
• Article II, Section 3: The president must "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed"
• 14th Amendment: "No State shall... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

Trump's action violates all three.

The Unprecedented Nature of This Immunity

Before Trump, no president in U.S. history has:

1. Sued his own IRS while in office
2. Extracted a settlement from his own government
3. Granted himself and his family permanent tax immunity via executive action

Historical Context:

• Richard Nixon: Faced IRS audits. Resigned rather than defy them.
• Every other president: Underwent mandatory annual IRS audits (a policy since the 1970s)
• Trump: Not only avoided audits but banned them forever for himself and his family

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The Tax Gap Problem

The IRS estimates the "tax gap" (unpaid taxes) at $600 billion annually. This includes:

• $441B from underreporting income
• $125B from underpayment
• $34B from non-filing

Trump's message to taxpayers: "If you're powerful enough, you don't have to pay. And if you do get caught, you can sue the government, settle for billions, and make it illegal for them to ever check on you again."

The psychological impact: If the most powerful person in the country can legally evade tax scrutiny, why should anyone else comply?

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⚖️ PART 3: THE LEGAL REALITY — THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS

The Separation of Powers Violation

The Attorney General (Blanche) signed a memo granting immunity to his former client (Trump) from an independent agency (IRS).

The Conflict:

• DOJ's role: Enforce the law
• Blanche's role: Trump's personal defense attorney in the hush money and classified documents cases
• The ethics violation: DOJ's own Departmental Ethics Office (Joseph Tirrell) formally ruled Blanche must recuse from all Trump-related matters
• What happened: Tirrell was fired in July 2025 for making this determination

The Appropriations Clause Violation

The $1.776 billion came from the Judgment Fund — a permanent Treasury appropriation meant for legitimate legal settlements.

Statutory Requirements (31 U.S.C. § 1304):

1. Settlement must be final
2. Settlement must be monetary
3. Settlement must be authorized by statute
4. Settlement must be payable from no other source

Trump's fund fails ALL FOUR tests:

• ❌ Not final — Trump dropped the case voluntarily before any answer was filed
• ❌ Not monetary to plaintiffs — The $1.776B doesn't go to Trump; it goes to a third-party fund he controls
• ❌ No statutory authorization — Congress never approved this
• ❌ Payable from other sources — This was a self-inflicted lawsuit

The Tax Administration Violation

26 U.S.C. § 6103(h)(2): The president must be audited annually.

IRS Policy (since 1977): Every president's tax returns are automatically audited every year.

Trump's action: Used a settlement agreement to override federal law and IRS policy — something no president has ever attempted.

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💰 PART 4: THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS — WHAT THIS MEANS FOR AMERICA

Scenario 1: The Wealthy Taxpayer

Before Trump: A billionaire with complex tax schemes faces aggressive IRS scrutiny. The agency has teams of specialists who audit high-net-worth individuals.

After Trump: A billionaire can:

1. Sue the IRS (even if the case is frivolous)
2. Demand a settlement funded by taxpayers
3. Extract immunity for themselves and their family
4. Make it illegal for the IRS to ever audit them again

Result: The incentive to cheat increases dramatically when the risk of detection drops to zero.

Scenario 2: The Middle-Class Taxpayer

Current reality:

• Audit rate for earners under $200K: ~0.4% (2023 IRS data)
• Audit rate for top 1%: ~11%
• Audit rate for Trump: 0% (permanently)

The psychological effect:

• Moral hazard: If the president can opt out of the tax system entirely, why should a teacher, nurse, or small business owner bother complying?
• Resentment: When people see the wealthiest and most powerful exempting themselves, tax morale collapses

IRS Data on Tax Compliance:

• Voluntary compliance rate: ~82-85% (historical average)
• This rate depends on: Perceived fairness and risk of enforcement
• Trump's action: Destroys both — it's unfair and enforcement risk for the elite is now zero

Scenario 3: The Small Business Owner

Current dilemma:

• Cash businesses (restaurants, contractors) face temptation to underreport income
• IRS enforcement: Limited resources mean most small cheats go unnoticed
• Deterrent: Fear that if caught, penalties are severe (75% of underpaid tax + interest)

After Trump's precedent:

• New calculation: "If Trump can get away with it, maybe I can too."
• Risk assessment: If the president can sue his way out of audits, a small business owner might think: "Why can't I?"

Economic Impact:

• Tax revenue loss: Even a 1% drop in compliance = $40-50 billion/year in lost revenue
• Deficit impact: The U.S. national debt is $34+ trillion — this makes it worse
• Interest costs: Every $1B in lost revenue = $20-30B in long-term debt costs (at current interest rates)

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📉 PART 5: THE NUMBERS — WHAT TRUMP'S TAX IMMUNITY COSTS AMERICA

Direct Costs

Item	Cost	Source
Anti-Weaponization Fund	$1.776 billion	DOJ Press Release
Legal fees for Trump's IRS lawsuit	Millions (exact figure undisclosed)	Taxpayer-funded DOJ defense
Lost IRS audit revenue from Trump	$100M+ (estimated)	NYT/ProPublica analysis of Trump's tax returns

Indirect Costs (Projected)

Impact	Estimated Annual Cost	Basis
Reduced compliance (1% drop)	$40-50 billion	IRS tax gap data
Increased tax evasion by wealthy	$10-20 billion	Behavioral economics studies
Total potential revenue loss	$50-70 billion/year	Combined estimates

The Precedent Cost

• Every future president can now sue their own IRS and demand immunity
• Every cabinet member can do the same
• Every billionaire with political connections can attempt the same maneuver

Long-term cost: Hundreds of billions in lost revenue as the tax system collapses under the weight of its own unfairness.

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🏛️ PART 6: THE CONSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK — WHAT THE FOUNDERS FEARED

The Founders explicitly designed the Constitution to prevent exactly this scenario.

The Foreign Emoluments Clause (Article I, Section 9, Clause 8):

> "No Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States], shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

Why it exists: The Founders had lived under a king (George III) who sold British offices and favors to the highest bidder. They knew what happens when leaders monetize their power.

The Domestic Emoluments Clause (Article II, Section 1, Clause 7):

> "The President shall... receive... a Compensation... which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them."

Why it exists: To prevent presidents from profiting from their office beyond their salary.

Trump's Violations:

Clause	Trump's Action	Violation
Foreign Emoluments	Accepted $400M jet from Qatar	Direct violation (no Congressional consent)
Domestic Emoluments	$12B+ extracted from presidency	Direct violation (profiting beyond salary)
Appropriations Clause	$1.776B fund from Judgment Fund	Direct violation (no Congressional approval)
Take Care Clause	Refusing to enforce tax laws on himself	Direct violation (not faithfully executing laws)

Richard Painter (George W. Bush's White House ethics lawyer): > "This appears to be an illegal, unconstitutional payoff from a foreign government to the president at a scale we have never seen... The problem is not the law. The law is clear. The problem is that every person with the institutional power to enforce the law answers to the man breaking it."

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🔥 PART 7: THE SIMPLE LOGIC — WHY THIS DESTROYS THE TAX SYSTEM

The Moral Argument

1. If the president doesn't have to pay taxes, why should anyone else?

   • Answer: There is no moral justification — only power

2. If the president can sue his way out of audits, why can't I?

   • Answer: Because you don't control the DOJ — but the precedent is now set

3. If the president's family is immune, why isn't mine?

   • Answer: Because they're not the president's family — but the system is now rigged for the powerful

The Economic Argument

• Tax compliance is voluntary — it depends on trust in the system
• When trust collapses, compliance collapses
• When the most powerful cheat openly, trust evaporates

Historical Precedent:

• Ancient Rome: The republic collapsed when elites exempted themselves from taxes
• France (pre-Revolution): The nobility's tax exemption fueled public rage that led to revolution
• Modern Failed States: Tax evasion by elites is a hallmark of corruption that precedes state failure

The Legal Argument

• No one is above the law — this is the bedrock of democracy
• If the president is above the law, the law means nothing
• If the law means nothing, the government has no legitimacy

Justice Louis Brandeis: > "We must make our choice. We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both."

Trump's actions prove Brandeis right — we now have wealth concentrated in the hands of one family, and democracy is paying the price.

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💀 PART 8: THE ULTIMATE QUESTION — WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

The Immediate Crisis

• The Anti-Weaponization Fund case is still alive in court
• The tax immunity memo is still in effect
• Todd Blanche is now the confirmed Attorney General

This means:

1. The precedent is set — future presidents can do the same
2. The IRS is neutered — at least for the powerful
3. The DOJ is compromised — run by the president's personal lawyer

The Long-Term Threat

If this stands unchallenged:

• Tax compliance will plummet (especially among the wealthy)
• The deficit will explode (losing $50-70B/year in revenue)
• The rule of law will collapse (if the president can break laws with impunity, what's the point of laws?)

The Founders' Worst Fear: They feared a king. They fought a revolution to escape one. They wrote a Constitution to prevent one.

Now we have one.

And he doesn't pay taxes.

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🎯 FINAL ANSWER: THE SIMPLE LOGIC IS UNassailable

"Why should anyone in America pay taxes if the President doesn't have to?"

Because if the President doesn't have to, then the entire premise of American democracy — that we are a nation of laws, not men — is a lie.

The Facts Prove It:

• Trump sued his own IRS for $10 billion
• He settled for $1.776 billion of your tax dollars
• He extracted permanent immunity for himself and his family
• The IRS is now legally barred from auditing him
• No president in history has ever done this
• No legal mechanism exists to reverse it while he's in office

The Consequences Are Clear:

• Moral: If the most powerful man in America doesn't follow the law, why should anyone?
• Economic: Tax compliance will drop, revenue will plummet, deficits will soar
• Legal: The rule of law is dead if the president can opt out of it
• Political: This is exactly how democracies die — when elites exempt themselves from the rules

The simple logic is not just valid — it's the most important question facing America today.

And the answer is: If the President doesn't have to pay taxes, then America is no longer a democracy. It's a monarchy. And in a monarchy, the peasants pay taxes so the king doesn't have to.

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Doing so WITHOUT the APPROVAL of CONGRESS, makes it impeachable.

And running out of munitions because used them all up --- well that's just IRRESPONSIBLE!

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They don't care who Joe Biden, Barrack Hussien Obama or Hillary Clinton are!

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Now, it works on "justice" for one person only.

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Asking price, The US CONSTITUTION.

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