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How strong would Gazef need to be before nobles stop calling him a commoner?

If Gazef was as strong as Touch Me, and they personally saw him use his power to defeat PDL, would they still look down on him?

I know nobles are conceited, but I am wondering what is the limit before their rational and subconscious minds no longer justify their superiority complex.

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u/Ok-Cicada-5207 — 4 hours ago
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Who would win a fight Zesshi Zetsumei or Riku Aganeia

I want to clarify something: I am not referring to the Platinum Dragon Lord himself, but rather the armor he uses as an avatar to intervene in the world. In this case, who would win in a fight—Zesshi Zetsumei or Riku Aganeia?

u/Emergency_Patient525 — 5 hours ago

Gazef Stronoff

What would’ve happened to Gazef if he had accepted Ainz offer and joined don’t get me wrong I understand all the reasons why he refused but let’s pretend he has a different mindset and accepts the offer to join Ainz. Would Gazef become a demon like the princess or would he remain human?

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u/Dangerous-Debate1312 — 8 hours ago

The way Ainz views the NPCs has changed, initially afraid of them, he now feels a sense of duty, like a father to his children. (Not that I condone or support his evil actions)

I will explain this in more depth, because if we understand what happens in Volumes 13 and 14, there is a very fundamental shift in motivation for Ainz's character. he is no longer haunted by the fear of betrayal or rebellion from the NPCs. His leadership dynamics are now based on pragmatism, results, and a sense of responsibility, rather than just a survival effort against his own subordinates.

For example, the reason he completely entrusts various operations to Demiurge is not out of resignation or laziness, but because Demiurge is the most genius entity in Nazarick whose track record has never once disappointed or harmed the guild. As long as that plan proves capable of strengthening Nazarick, Ainz will go along with it without caring about the impact on the outside world.

However, on the other hand, he also once firmly rejected Albedo and Cocytus proposal a Level 100 NPC who is physically much stronger in combat than Demiurge. This serves as clear proof that Ainz maintains rational control as a leader; no matter how strong, loyal, or influential a subordinate is, if their plan does not provide a clear benefit to Nazarick, Ainz will not hesitate to reject it.

The root of Ainz's communication deadlock and the reason why he continues to choose to pretend is not merely ego or ordinary character weakness, but the trauma of his attempt to be honest, which ended up being painful. During the events of Volume 13, Ainz once tried to break down the wall of his own perfection by bowing his head and sincerely apologizing for his limitations and iignorance.

However, this honesty backfired. Instead of gaining understanding or relief, his action instantly triggered panic, guilt, and profound sadness in Albedo, Demiurge, and Lupusregina. In the absolute view of the NPCs, a supreme entity cannot make mistakes, if Ainz is sad and apologizing, they assume that their own inadequacy is what failed and burdened their master. This reaction struck Ainz's inner self hard. He felt intensely guilty that his good intentions to be honest and open instead caused immense emotional burden and made his "children" suffer.

From that bitter experience, entering Volume 14, we see a tragic resolution to Ainz's character. He is now fully aware that the NPCs will never leave him or betray him, no matter what happens. His past fears have evaporated, replaced by one absolute new goal, to protect the smiles and happiness of the NPCs left behind by his friends. Their relationship has now completely transitioned into a bond akin to that of a father and child. Ainz knows full well that his children will feel deeply happy, proud, and whole just by receiving praise from their father.

Therefore, Ainz decides to accept his fate. He no longer wears the mask of the Supreme Being out of compulsion or fear, but rather as the highest form of dedication from a father who is willing to shoulder the burden of a lie for the rest of his life just to maintain his family's happiness.

This is where Ainz's apathy plays a crucial role. For Ainz, spreading immense suffering or even committing genocide against millions of lives in the New World means nothing at all if those actions can ensure the security of Nazarick and preserve the smiles of the NPCs. His paranoia has not disappeared, but it has now completely shifted from internal threats to extreme vigilance against external dangers that might dare to harm his organization.

Ultimately, this explains why the author, Kugane Maruyama, views Ainz's fate as "pitiful." The greatest tragedy in the story of Overlord is the slow yet sure loss of Suzuki Satoru's humanity. He consciously chooses to "kill" his fragile human side, burying his true identity deep down in order to fully play the role of Ainz Ooal Gown, the perfect and merciless tyrant.

This is the ultimate irony of a sacrifice, a dark tale about a father who is willing to imprison himself in eternal loneliness and sacrifice his inner relief, solely so his children can continue to live in the illusion of perfection and keep smiling happily under his protection.

Honestly, I hate the anime adaptation because it has missed many things that make Ainz so complex as a character. The anime cuts out too much of Ainz's internal monologue.

This why, I like Overlord.

u/Pretend_Annual_5540 — 14 hours ago

Decem and Entoma s trump card

Ok so let's say Ainz uses Entoma s trump card ,would that ability like breath of fly get stronger because Ainz is level 100 while entoma around 50 .What I want to say I am going for an overpowered Ainz so I was kinda thinking...

If Entoma s ability scales based on lvl it could be pretty busted ,what do you guys think???

I mean imagine the zombie armor but with high level insects instead lol 😆 🤣

Also another question should decem s trump card when used by Ainz be simply Behemoth or would his trump card be an ability that let's him summon more powerful summons like you know a skill he unlocked that let's him summon more powerful elementals ...

Technically Decems trump card should be the ability to summon monsters stronger than himself....

Note : I am talking about Ainz using zesshi s talent

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u/Prestigious-Piece332 — 12 hours ago
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It’s incredible to me how this guy would have been a thousand times happier if he had arrived in the New World completely alone.

In the Overlord side story *The Vampire Princess of the Lost Kingdom*, we see Ainz arrive in the New World 200 years before the events of the original story—and completely alone. In this version, Ainz goes on adventures across the New World alongside Evileye and appears much happier and more relaxed than in the original work. While arriving with the Great Tomb of Nazarick and its loyal NPCs might seem preferable at first glance, that situation actually placed immense pressure on Ainz, forcing him to play the role of the evil Overlord the NPCs believed him to be; he was entirely alone, with no one around with whom he could truly be himself, constantly bearing a heavy burden. Ironically, had Ainz arrived completely alone, he would have been much happier: free from the responsibility of looking after the Great Tomb of Nazarick, free from the need to constantly pretend to be someone he isn't, free from the pressure exerted by the NPCs, and able to form genuine bonds with the inhabitants of the New World.

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What would the NPCs' reactions be to the *Overlord: The Vampire Princess of the Lost Kingdom* story?

Let’s imagine a "theater of despair" scenario—where the characters find themselves in a theater or cinema, watching a story unfold—in which Ainz arrived in the New World 200 years prior to the original timeline, completely alone and without Nazarick, and explored the world while adventuring alongside Evileye. How would the NPCs react to this story?

How strong are past players

so rereading the light novel evileye commented that demiurge/jaldabaoth is stronger that the evil spirit/evil deities that once there before ainz, I don't know if they are players or not but are nazaric NPC really that much stronger than past player that's been on the new world, from what i know demiurge was created more for roleplaying than actual combat so him being stronger with a roleplaying build just make me think of how weak the other players are, there is also the part of one of the 13 heroes leader being the weakest but later became the strongest, I even think he was the original owner of the ring that bypass the level restriction just to overpower the evil players do to him not having god tier equipment, I mean evileye was part of the 13 heroes so she might have seen the evil spirit first hand

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u/normal_kure — 1 day ago

Will Overlord have an open ending?

Maruyama has repeatedly stated that the novel will conclude with Volume 18; in an interview around the time the movie premiered, he even described the ending as the type where "everything is just beginning."

This outcome was predictable, given that so much remains unexplored while the author is simply too lazy to continue. So, what is the most plausible ending?

If the story concludes with a victory for Nazarick, it would make perfect sense for a "new beginning" if Ainz were to discover another continent across the mountains or ocean—and receive word of other Players there—some time later.

However, it is truly disappointing that so many mysteries remain unexplained; the Dragon Emperor—the one who started it all—is mentioned only once in the entire story, and it is clear that Maruyama is simply too lazy to write any further.

What does everyone think?

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u/Gloomy-Ad7625 — 23 hours ago