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Songs you can tell an artist wanted to go viral on TikTok?

Idk if this even happens as often since I’m not on TikTok anymore, but from 2020 to 2024, sometimes you could just feel an artist wanted their song to be used for a TikTok trend. This would either be through some type of dance instruction in the lyrics, such as the “right foot up, left foot slide” bit in Drake’s “Toosie Slide’” or a part of the song that conveniently cuts out the music for a spoken word bit that’s basically screaming “please do your transition here.”

Olivia Rodrigo is guilty of the second one at least two times for me, both in the songs “Bad idea right?” And “Obsessed.” I’d also throw in Ariana Grande’s “We Can’t Be Friends” for the part “Me and my truth we sit in silence………..baby girl it’s just and you.”

Also the spoken word pre chorus in Troye Sivan’s “One of Your Girls.”

Except “Toosie” slide, I like all the songs I’ve listed, but I also know that for a time a TikTok hit was a guaranteed chart topper. Also think it’s funny how all of these were seemingly seeking TikTok virality, didn’t get them, but something like “Apple” by Charli XCX does. Perhaps these artists weren’t even doing this on purpose, but because they’re also on TikTok their brains just did it subconsciously, after all nobody just fell out of a coconut tree🥥, we exist in the context.

Also isn’t it crazy how people used to get paid to make TikTok dances for songs in attempt to make them go viral💀💀?? I just now remembered this.

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u/Powerblue102 — 11 days ago
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Artist who are notoriously bad at picking their singles with examples?

Besides the obvious that pop heads would normally name. Two artist who immediately come to mind for me is Xtina and Mariah Carey.

Xtina HATED Genie in a bottle and didn’t want to record it, but her A&R fought for the song and knew it was a hit. the song submitted her place as one of the top pop artist in the time and had a big legacy.

I also think some of the single choices in her peak Eras (Stripped, Back To Basic and Bionic) were odd.

How was infatuation not a single?! it would’ve been perfect for the summer, especially since the Latin cross over was big in the 90’s and 00’s. It’s also one her more catchier songs off stripped. And could’ve seen that being a big radio hit.

Mariah, I feel like her post Tommy era was hit and miss with picking singles too.

Mariah infamously hated Hero because she found it corny and she didn’t write it with herself in mind. But Tommy made her put it out and now it’s one of her signature hits and is a tribute song that impacted many lives.

Mariah also wanted to put out Say somethin as the lead for emancipation put her label told her to go back into the studio and work with JD for the chemistry and in hopes of getting a hit. That last minute sessions with JD generated it’s like that and we belong together. Two big records that sent Mariah comeback perfectly.

I also feel like Migrate was a missed single off E=MC2 and you don’t know what to do on the elusive chanteuse album.

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u/BrownSkinVixen_28 — 11 days ago

Is 90s style downtempo/trip hop making a comeback? If so, why?

I am autistically obsessed with the downtempo scene of the 90s, the stuff that's a little more pop than trip hop, and I keep my ear out for modern tracks that emulate that era. For most of this decade, it was limited to George Clanton, Doss, and I guess Hatchie. But there's been a shift over the last couple months, during which we got:

Pistol by Rebecca Black

Lucky (Hymm) by Shygirl

Autobahn by Kim Petras

Different Religion by Miley Cyrus

and My Sins Are My Savior by Madonna (which samples a track from the 90s)

If you wanna go earlier in the year, there's the Girls Trip version of Saturn's Return by Zara Larsson and Home by Charlie Puth ft. Utada.

And then there's After, who released their debut album a couple of weeks ago, and whose whole thing is a false memory of late 90s/early 2000s "trip pop", kind of like how Kavinsky created a false memory of the 80s.

It may be a coincidence. But on RateYourMusic, tags for the genres under the 90s downtempo umbrella, like trip hop, baggy, UK street soul and downtempo itself are slowly creeping up, Frou Frou seem to be more popular now than they were 25 years ago, and Ray of Light has joined Blackout as the pop album every pop artist namedrops. So there are signs. But if it's real, the question is why, because "20 year nostalgia cycle" feels reductive. Why this, in particular?

I know modern shoegaze and industrial have been experimenting with 90s breakbeats for a while, "baggygaze" becoming a buzzword. A lot of the artists I listed make aggressive dance-pop, and might've just independently adopted the sound for pacing reasons, as Eurodance artists did in the 90s. Silent Hill has gotten more popular lately, and the games feature this sound heavily; After have called it an influence. They could all just be reheating After's nachos, but none of them actually sound much like them. I absolutely know which album is responsible for the tagging boom on RYM, but nobody else sounds like it, either, and at any rate RYM is not influencing the mainstream pop landscape.

Is this just some coincidental blip, an early sign of what pop music will be in the next few years, or something that will continue to be limited to one-offs?

u/Prior_Advantage_5408 — 11 days ago

Challenge: Make a Halloween themed EP out of songs from your favorite's discography

Now that it's Halloween season it's time to bring ban an annual-ish tradition of mine, which is attempting to mine the world of existing music for new Halloween songs.

As I do every year, I must pay homage to mother of all things Ava Max who inspired this topic with the release of A Sweet But Psycho Halloween, her seminal low-effort compilation EP that is just a bunch of her hits + "Take You To Hell" which is stupid because she actually DOES have the material for a very good Halloween EP.

But I'm sure Ava's not the only one with the juice to put something like this together. Can you mine the discography of your favorite artist and cobble together a Halloween themed EP?

What makes you choose those particular songs- the lyrics? The sound? Dig deep!

u/Ghost-Quartet — 12 days ago

Teatime & Trending Topics - October 04, 2026

A place to discuss rumors, gossip, and articles that would not be approved as their own post.

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u/AutoModerator — 11 days ago

How much should an artist’s intended meaning matter to a listener’s interpretation?

I’ve been thinking about the relationship between what an artist intends a song to mean and what a listener personally takes from it. What prompted this was properly listening to Chappell Roan’s Good Luck, Babe! for the first time a few days ago.

I’d heard parts of the song in passing on Instagram Reels before, but I had never actually sat down and listened to the whole thing. Since then, I genuinely haven’t been able to get it out of my head. I’m a straight guy, and I absolutely love the song. Musically and emotionally, everything about it works for me, but I’m especially obsessed with the outro and the way the song gradually winds down. There’s something about that ending that hits me every single time.

Because I became slightly obsessed with it, I started reading Reddit threads, Twitter posts, Instagram comments, and other discussions to see how people reacted to the song and interpreted it. Most of the discussion understandably revolves around queer identity, repression, compulsory heterosexuality, and someone trying to deny or suppress their sexuality. That is how I understand the song’s central narrative, too.

That meaning was apparent to me when I first listened to it. I understood the narrator as addressing another woman, and I’m not suggesting that the song is secretly about something else or that its queer meaning should somehow be replaced by my interpretation.

What I find interesting is that, emotionally, my brain takes the song somewhere completely different.

For some reason, I strongly associate it with mental-health struggles and the experience of trying to suppress something inside yourself. The central idea of desperately trying to push away a feeling that keeps returning makes me think about knowing that something is wrong internally while continuing to behave as though everything is normal.

Even the parts of the song about going out, being with other people, and trying to move forward register differently for me. I imagine someone throwing themselves into social situations, relationships, distractions, or whatever else they can find because they’re trying to convince themselves that they’re okay. From the outside, they might be socializing, meeting people and apparently living normally, while internally they know they’re struggling and aren’t really confronting it.

That obviously isn’t the literal narrative of Good Luck, Babe!. But every time I listen to it, that is where my emotional interpretation goes. I understand what the song is describing, yet it has somehow attached itself to a completely different experience in my own head.

And that made me wonder more broadly about how we interpret music. My tentative view is that a personal association can be meaningful without being a claim about what the lyrics literally describe. But I’m unsure whether ‘interpretation’ is the right word for that distinction.

I also wonder where people draw the line between interpreting a work and simply projecting onto it. If the actual lyrics clearly describe one experience, but the emotions, imagery or general themes make a listener connect it to something else entirely, is that still an interpretation of the song? Or is the song simply becoming a vehicle for an experience the listener already carries with them?

How much weight do you personally give to an artist’s intended meaning once a song becomes meaningful to you? Can a personal interpretation be completely legitimate even when it is quite far removed from the literal narrative of the lyrics?

I’m particularly interested in songs where you understand the artist’s intended meaning, but the song has nevertheless come to represent something completely different in your own life. What in the music or lyrics creates that connection for you?

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u/RentSavings4587 — 11 days ago

10 years ago, Jeon Heejin debuted, officially kicking off the formation of LOONA

#이달의소녀 #희진 #LOONA #HeeJin LOOΠΔ www.loonatheworld.com

>Every day, there's a flash in my heart, a shining rainbow
The same black and white movie is boring
Will you change it with your fingers?
Red, orange, yellow, green, more vivid, be okay?

HeeJin and LOONA's Inception

On the 31st of August, 2016, a photo teaser would be released by a new company named BlockBerry Creative (BBC). This teaser featured a young girl, age 15, from Daejeon, Korea, named Jeon Hee-jin. It would be the teaser that would officially kickstart what I’d consider one of the most ambitious and artistically unique projects in all of K-Pop: Girl of the Month, LOONA.

Initially, Heejin had been attending a dance academy, and she later became a trainee under Polaris (most notable for their girl group, Ladies’ Code), for approximately one year, after being rejected by several other companies. Their parent company at the time eventually transferred her over to the newly-formed Polaris subsidiary, BBC, for the purpose of participating in the LOONA project.

The budget of the LOONA project was one of the most intriguing factors. What immediately stood out about Heejin’s teasers is that she was flown out to Paris for them. The four members who followed would also go to different international locations for their solos as well. Polaris wasn’t exactly raking in truckloads of money at the time, so for a while, it was a bit of a question mark as to where the budget for that could possibly come from. People soon learned that BlockBerry and Polaris were both owned by Ilkwang Group, a massive corporation who most notably was responsible for arms manufacturing. Because of this, many people assumed and believed for the longest time that BlockBerry was an extremely wealthy company, with the main rumor being that around 10 billion won (~7.5 million USD today) was spent on the predebut alone. A bit more on that later, though.

The girls who became members themselves went through a survival show-type evaluation process, a process that continued until the final subunit, yyxy, where members Yves, Chuu, Go Won, and Hyeju (fka Olivia Hye), were all chosen outside of that system, in a much more rapid manner. While the second member, Hyunjin was training at Polaris/BBC the longest, Heejin was chosen first. According to Jaden Jeong, the creative director behind LOONA, she was chosen to be first to basically initiate the entire project as she had a certain high quality factor to her, which would set the right, extremely important first impression about the project.

A ViViD Debut

Onto the music itself, the single album, aptly named HeeJin, features two tracks: ViViD, and ViViD (Acoustic Mix). ViViD is an upbeat, jazzy, electroswing/pop track, in which Heejin discusses how a potential love interest brings a rainbow of vivid colors to a dull, repetitive world. The standout of the track is the “Oh my god, yes! Say ‘oh my goodness!’” hook within the chorus, where she further emphasizes the thrill and surprise of these newfound colors.

The track was written and composed by GDLO, Park Jiyeon, G-High, and Choi Youngkyung, all part of MonoTree, a music production company founded by former Sweetune members (another music production company known for work with acts like KARA and Nine Muses). MonoTree would become regular contributors to LOONA’s discography up until 2019, last appearing on [X X] (not including a Japanese version of Hi High). They would not reunite until 2022, where Heejin, alongside three other LOONA members – Yves, Choerry, and Hyeju – and Brave/BB Girls member Eunji, performed “Tell Me Now,” a song produced for MNet’s Queendom 2. MonoTree’s work with the girls is extremely revered by fans and casual listeners alike, ViViD being no exception. Although LOONA would work with a multitude of producers/teams throughout the years, most fans commonly associate the “LOONA sound” with MonoTree’s production work. 

(Fun, but not-so-fun fact, MonoTree was set to reappear in their discography as the composers and lyricists of “Comet,” from the boycotted and forever shelved [0] Origin Album.)

The acoustic version replaces the jazzy electro instrumental with a guitar. Not much to say about this, but there is a video of Heejin singing and playing it on the guitar.

Onto the video itself, it’s an excellent representation of the song title and theming, and it also, either intentionally or unintentionally, introduces several core elements of LOONA’s lore and branding that’d become popular among fans. The world starts out grey, but as the song kicks in, it’s a near-instant transformation into a world of intense colors. I won’t go into full LOONAverse analysis like many Orbits have in the past, but essentially, the video can be interpreted as a girl trapped in a mundane and colorless world creating or imagining a colorful…vivid… world of excitement and oddity. Near the end, we see the world and Heejin get overtaken by paint strokes of all the colors in the rainbow. Not only does this represent how each girl following her would build the LOONAverse, but it also foreshadows the very gay fanbase the group would attract :) By the end, we see Heejin back in a normal world, cleaning, looking outside. It could mirror how her journey would lead to the formation of the first of LOONA’s iconic subunits: LOONA 1/3, the group’s Christian horse girl subunit that resides on our Earth within the LOONAverse.

Ironically enough, while a majority of LOONA’s music videos thereafter would be developed by Digipedi, who helped bring many of the visuals, story elements, and symbols that’d represent LOONA to life, ViViD’s MV is one of the few LOONA MVs to not be a Digipedi creation. It was instead produced by VM Project Architecture.

Commercially, HeeJin, the single album, was a failure at release. On Gaon, now known as the Circle Chart, it was 2016’s worst selling album, only registering 657 purchases. Nonetheless, the LOONA project would continue, with HyunJin and HaSeul both releasing their single albums in the last two months of the year.

Heejin would continue to develop and demonstrate her star idol quality as LOONA continued to form. Prior to the debut of LOONA as a full group, and outside of being a member of 1/3, she'd feature on the solo albums of members HyunJin, HaSeul, and Yeojin (though not on a track with Yeojin), had a "secret" rap feature in JinSoul's Singing in the Rain, and would rap once more on member Hyeju's B-side, Rosy, featuring Go Won as well.

It was also Heejin's face that made Jinsoul want to join and stay at BBC, as a face that pretty could only be at a decent agency (but sadly...).

Besides activities within LOONA, she'd also participate on the cursed-but-stacked-with-talent YG survival show, MIXNINE, along with Hyunjin and Haseul. She would make it to the final girls' lineup, but literally no actual group ever came out of that show. She also filmed a commercial for LG.

The LOONA Project's Outcome and HeeJin Now

As this is a post focusing on Heejin and the start of the LOONA project, I won’t delve too much into the other members debuts and all that, but to sum it up, all 12 members of the project got to release their singles, perform as subunits (except YeoJin, due to age), and go on to participate in LOONA’s debut as a whole group. While the group has never officially disbanded, their operation under BlockBerry Creative would come to a grinding halt in November/December 2022, after issues of unpaid wages to not only the girls, but the company’s collaborators and other creatives, exploitative contracts, and the attempted removal of Chuu from the group arose and led to successful fan boycotts of all future LOONA activity under the label. I’ll save that for 2028, though.

Heejin is still very active as an idol now, as part of ARTMS, a group formed by Modhaus, a K-Pop agency established and led by Jaden Jeong, also featuring members HaSeul, Kim Lip, Jinsoul, and Choerry. Before ARTMS officially debuted, she released a solo mini-album, K, under the agency. It sold 17k its first week, a commendable number, especially considering how much HeeJin sold. The title track, “Algorithm,” features a reference to ViViD in its choreography. Her most recent solo release though is 2025’s sAviOr, a rock track in which she’s back to playing guitar.

She’s performed the track as recently as 2025 for ARTMS’ Lunar Theory World Tour, a tour centered specifically around LOONA songs. Also, to promote that tour, the company recreated the teaser made for her debut/ViViD back in 2016. In the first ever video teaser for LOONA, we see a pre-debut baby HeeJin walk up to one of many adverts for her single plastered around Korea. In ARTMS’ X2 teaser for the Lunar Theory tour, HeeJin is in Paris yet again, dressed in the same white look from her solo single’s cover. She walks up to a bus stop ad, which is another recreation of one of her original teasers. Pretty neat to see all the references to her journey in such a short video!

In 2026, Heejin, Kim Lip, Jinsoul, and Choerry are about to embark on ARTMS’ 4th World Tour, Art of Blue Blood, as part of the promo for the group’s second mini album, Hyper-Ego. If you're in Canada, the US, or Europe, you may be able to go see them!

Some discussion questions:

  1. Which song got you into LOONA, and which song is your personal favOriTe?
  2. Where does ViViD rank for you among the LOONA solos, or their discography in general?
  3. Many of LOONA’s tracks are often praised for their timeless quality. Now being ten years old, how do you think ViViD holds up, whether it be in comparison to other LOONA songs, or on its own?
  4. Do you have a favorite Heejin moment? Favorite LOONA moment?

To end, here's current day Heejin doing ViViD! Happy 10th to the best first girl!!

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u/hennybee — 10 days ago
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I'm running an event involving scoring the songs of My 21st Century Blues

Hi r/Raye, I am currently hosting a subreddit event over on r/popheads, where participants score songs from albums on a scale of 1-10. Then once all scores are collected the results are revealed from lowest average to highest.

Here is the link to the post, the theming is 'Brit School Star Students', featuring all modern stars who came from BRIT School. The lineup is My 21st Century Blues by Raye, What A Devastating Turn of Events by Rachel Chinouriri, I'm Only Fking Myself by Lola Young and The Art of Loving by Olivia Dean. I've been waiting to tackle a couple of these albums for years now so I'm very excited and it's why I'm crossposting here, I want to get as many people involved as I can!

There is a longer rules section in the post that you are welcome to read if you're interested in the rate, also a short video explanation here, but it is very simple in concept: Score all the songs on a scale from 1-10 (1 being lowest, 10 being highest) and you get one optional 0 (for your least favourite song) and one 11 (for your favourite song).

I'm happy to answer any questions, the rate is also open until June 13th so if you'd like to participate but want a reminder closer to the final due date let me know and I can remind you. Really I'll just be glad for any more scores!

Thanks :)

u/Awkward_King — 12 days ago

The Calling - Before The World Turns To Dust

This came out last week so I hope it's not too late to post. This is their first new album since 2004! (Yes, it's the "Wherever You Will Go" guys!)

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u/Soalai — 11 days ago