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2025 RAV4 Prime OEM TowHitch Install Disaster

I leased a 2025 Toyota RAV4 Prime in Connecticut and absolutely loved the vehicle. The lease incentives and EV credit made it an incredible deal, and overall it was one of the best vehicles I’ve owned.

Last year, life changed quickly and my family relocated from CT to Texas. To help with the move, I scheduled an appointment at a Toyota dealership in New York to have an OEM Toyota tow hitch and wiring harness installed so I could use a cargo carrier for the drive down to Texas.

The installation was completed in October 2025. Everything seemed perfectly fine afterward, and we completed the move to Texas without issue.

Fast forward to about three weeks ago. I suddenly received a “Charge System Malfunction – See Dealer” warning on the RAV4 Prime.

I immediately scheduled an appointment with a Toyota dealership in Texas. The next day, I received a diagnostic video from the technician, and honestly my jaw dropped.

The rear spare tire/tailgate area had massive water intrusion — enough that water had migrated forward under the carpet into the second-row passenger area. During the inspection, the technician noticed broken taillight mounting brackets and overtightened fasteners around the driver-side rear taillight area. They explained that this section had clearly been previously disassembled and that the leak did not appear to be a factory defect or normal warranty issue.

They then ran the vehicle through a car wash while monitoring the exposed rear interior panels, and water could literally be seen pouring into the rear body cavity from the driver-side rear area.

At this point I was panicking because I’m thinking:
“How is a nearly brand-new vehicle not covered under warranty, and what could possibly have caused this?”

I went to the dealership in person, and honestly the service manager at the Texas dealership was incredible throughout this process. He had my entire Toyota service history already printed out and walked through everything with me step by step.

He said:
“This vehicle is basically brand new. No accident history. No third-party modifications. This shouldn’t be happening.”

Then he found the key detail:
the OEM tow hitch installation performed by the New York Toyota dealership in October 2025.

He pulled up the official Toyota installation procedure and physically showed me that the installation requires removal of the taillights and multiple rear interior/body panels in order to route the wiring harness.

He told me:
“I think this is your issue, but we need to do a more extensive teardown to confirm.”

I approved the teardown.

The second diagnostic video was honestly infuriating.

Broken clips.
Damaged mounting points.
Evidence of improper reassembly.
And finally the main culprit:
a rear drain hole plug left completely out of the vehicle.

According to the Texas dealership, the plug was never reinstalled after the tow hitch wiring installation, and since October 2025 water had been pouring directly into the rear body cavity every time it rained or the vehicle was washed.

At this point:
- corrosion had begun affecting wiring/components,
- mold was discovered under the carpeting,
- and the repair estimate climbed to roughly $27,000.

I was honestly speechless.

The Texas dealership advised me to contact Toyota Corporate and the New York dealership that performed the installation.

Initially, the New York dealership’s service manager acknowledged that it was possible the issue originated during the hitch installation and said Toyota Corporate would likely need to mediate reimbursement between dealerships.

So at first I thought:
“Okay, this should be straightforward.”

Unfortunately, things became much more complicated after that.

Toyota Corporate has actually been professional overall and has stayed involved, but because the issue was allegedly caused by dealer workmanship rather than a factory defect, they explained it technically falls outside traditional warranty coverage.

Even so, both dealerships indicated Toyota Corporate needed to stay involved to coordinate the process.

The first corporate case manager I was assigned was honestly amazing. She reviewed the videos, investigated the history, and repeatedly attempted to contact the New York dealership.

According to her, they stopped responding to multiple calls.

I also emailed and called myself trying to start a productive conversation regarding repairs and responsibility.

Eventually I traveled from Texas back to New York myself to try speaking with them in person.

When I arrived, I was told they could not speak with me further based on advice from legal counsel.

As I was leaving, my Toyota Corporate case manager happened to call me back. I asked if she wanted me to go back inside while she remained on speakerphone, and she agreed.

So I went back in with Toyota Corporate actively listening on the call.

At that point, the New York dealership stated they rejected the findings of the Texas dealership — despite also acknowledging they had not reviewed the diagnostic videos yet. They also stated their technicians are trained professionals and “would never make a mistake,” and that they wanted to inspect the vehicle themselves.

My case manager was honestly stunned by the interaction. She specifically commented that she had never handled a case quite like this before. The videos show the issue very clearly, and the overall response from the dealership felt immediately hostile and defensive rather than solution-oriented.

The case has now been escalated to a senior case manager, and the process is essentially beginning another review phase while they get up to speed on everything.

Meanwhile, I’m still paying a lease on a vehicle that is currently torn apart undergoing mold remediation and investigation.

I honestly don’t even know what to think anymore.

I’ve owned Toyotas my entire life. My first car was a 1996 Camry. Between my family and I, we currently own multiple Toyotas including this RAV4 Prime. I’ve always trusted the brand, which is why this situation has been so shocking and disappointing.

Has anyone here dealt with anything remotely similar involving dealer workmanship, water intrusion, or Toyota Corporate escalation?

Any advice would genuinely be appreciated.

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u/Illustrious-Way-7228 — 19 hours ago

An Open Letter…

To the Toyota engineer who designed these panel clips: I hope you stub your toe every day for the rest of your life.

I installed a dashcam in my (new to me) 2023 RAV4 Prime XSE this past weekend and these A-pillar clips are medieval.

u/Chimbo84 — 1 day ago

Please sanity check my rationale for buying a Rav4 PHEV (vs regular hybrid)

Apologies in advance for my life story; I believe this is on topic for this subreddit but apologies if not.

I am in a one car household (in the US northeast) and I'm looking to upgrade from my ~11 year old crossover as it started having reliability issues, which is one of the things that led me to looking at Toyota.

I wanted to go electric but my wife isn't ready for it, so to me it feels like a PHEV might be a good stepping stone. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to own this for a long time, but I do hope our next car after this is an electric car.

She uses it to go to the office 3x a week (25 miles one way). My understanding is that at highway speeds the Rav4 PHEV will not stay in a pure electric mode, but a lot of her commute is not on the highway so I think the majority of her commute could be purely electric. She has very little patience for changing car modes; I don't expect her to think about pure EV mode vs hybrid mode. I'll be happy if she turns on snow mode when it's snowing. Our area has steep hills and it snows so getting AWD is important for my piece of mind. (Obviously the cold is going to affect mileage, but I can live with using the gas engine more in the winter.)

Most of the driving we do besides this is just easy driving around town, with occasional longer distance weekend day trips, and the rare ~3-4 hour drive to see family.

Her office does have chargers (I assume DC chargers? I'm not sure). I'm not sure the politics of that; I imagine she can't park in those spots all day if it only takes a short amount of time to fill up? I don't think she'd use them if she had to move mid-day. We have a garage at home we could easily install an L1 charger in; I got quoted >$2000 on an L2 charger as we'd need to route the high voltage wire through or around the house.

It seems like L1 is fine for us? L2 would be more about future proofing for an eventual electric car but given the price difference I think we'd stick to L1.

The main reason I'm asking all of this is I think if I'm honest probably the best car for my use case would be the non-PHEV? I would estimate we drive between 9-10 thousand miles per year.

The extra horsepower would be nice, and supposedly the PHEV "drives better." I have not been able to test drive one so hard to say how true that is, just based on what I've been reading. But after doing a bunch of research, my main concern is that spending less on a nicer trim for a non-PHEV might be a better financial decision.

I'm sure a lot of people on this subreddit have thought about this a lot so I would be very interested to hear what you have to say!

TIA!

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u/Lazy_Mail_5475 — 2 days ago

Drove over 100 miles on "empty"

With a full tank of gas my estimated range is 400 miles due to the fact I tow sometimes. After driving 400 miles I got to 0 range and decided to keep driving. I made it another 100 miles before the engine cut out while driving at 55-65 mph.

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u/b5scatpack — 2 days ago
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6 week storage of ‘25 PHEV

We’re going to be out of town and leaving our rav4 PHEV sitting for 6 weeks which seems to be about the cutoff for worrying about the 12v battery.

Wondering if I should get a tender or just disconnect the 12v battery. Any thoughts?

I’ve read to add stabilizer to the gas tank and leave the traction battery at 50%. Anything else?

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u/dontyoudareoyou2 — 2 days ago

Concerns about parasitic 12V battery drain

We purchased a 2025 RAV4 PHEV, and are loving it so far, but my only concern is with the parasitic 12V battery drain.

TL;DR - parasitic 12V battery drain & infrequent driving leads to needing to top it off with a battery maintainer 2 or 3 times/month.

After reading up on it, I understand during short trips the car normally doesn't send high enough voltage to the 12V while driving to charge it, due to how the Battery Monitoring System is set; it's recommended to drive at least 30-60 minutes a week in READY mode to sufficiently recharge the battery.

Given we don't typically drive that far that often, the other alternatives are to turn the headlights on (not Auto) to send higher voltage (not preferred as we may forget to turn them off), or disconnect the BMS, also not preferred.

I also read that when the HV battery is charging, it should also charge the 12V, but once it reaches 100% this stops and the 12V starts draining again; it's recommended to schedule the charge to reach 100% right before we leave.

The best solution I've found to avoid waking up to a dead 12V, is hooking up a battery monitor, and getting a trickle charger to top off whenever it gets low. I installed an Ancel BM300 monitor, and the initial State-of-Charge was 59%. I hooked up a NOCO Genius 5 charger and charged it back to 100%, and have been checking the SoC daily; after a few short trips the battery had decreased to 85%.

After parking it last night at 5pm, it went from 85 to 81% within a couple hours, then held at 81% until morning.

I understand one of the main culprits of the parasitic draw is the Data Communication Module always looking for a cell signal, which supports the Emergency Response SOS button, as well as the Toyota Connected Services, but we don't subscribe to it, and have opted out of any data sharing in the Toyota app.

I suppose the SOS button could be useful in an emergency, but we always have our phones, so I looked for options to completely disable the DCM; there's a DCM bypass kit, but I'm not comfortable tearing apart the dash to install it. I reached out to a car stereo mechanic and they declined because it would be a liability disabling the EMS.

Apologies for the long post; I found all this info across various threads and figured it may be useful to anyone new to this car as well. A couple questions, if you've read this far:

  • Is the 4% drop over a couple hours normal? I plan to continue checking daily to see if it recurs; if so, I'm wondering if it's Toyota still gathering data, even though we've opted out.

  • Any other non-frequent drivers have a similar experience? At this rate it seems I'll be topping off the 12V once a week/two (whenever it gets down to 60%) to avoid it dying completely.

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u/CINAPTNOD — 2 days ago
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Buying 2026 RAV4 SE, is this fair?

I think pricing is ridiculous but we need a car. Not a fan of that $3K package, how much did you pay for your rav4? These dealerships are out of control, MSRP $34-$35K

u/ABN7 — 3 days ago
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RAV4 Prime sleeping platform

I’ve still got a lot to do, but my sleeping platform is coming together. It’s going to be tight, but comfortable.

u/WhoPutATreeThere — 4 days ago

ISO (1) Used Yokohama Avid GT 235/55R19 - SF Bay Area

Hey guys - long shot here but thought I'd give it a try.

I am looking for (1) used Yokohama Avid GT 235/55R19 tire, preferably 40k miles or less, in the San Francisco Bay Area. This is the stock tires for a 2022 RAV4 Prime XSE

Context is that I got a flat tire (irreparable) in my RAV4 Prime this weekend. My other three tires still has a descent life left and want to avoid full replacement, if possible.

Kindly comment and DM me if you got one or know someone who does. Thank you!

edit: added model trim info

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u/MeowTheCow_ — 4 days ago

Help on Pricing. Buying tomorrow.

2026 RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid GR SPORT
$50K MSRP

I've heard a lot of crazy things about how much I can even negotiate on price like I'll be lucky just to get MSRP.

I wouldn't say I'm an experienced car buyer, but I had always thought you can go significantly under that. But I get that these are pretty popular vehicles right now.

What would you do? What would be a reasonable price to land on before I write the check?

Update: Humbling responses indeed everyone. Thanks!

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u/agrantgreen — 5 days ago

Question on 2026 RAV4 PHEV

I have a 2024 RAV4 Prime XSE with premium package. What would be the equivalent package for a 2026 XSE? They don’t seem to have a Premium package anymore. Also does an option package offer heated rear seats?

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u/SteveInBoston — 4 days ago

Opinion on this rav4.

Basically, is this a good price? Advertise for 43,077.00

out the door will be 47,183.06 with taxes and fees. Comes with the premium package. 14599 miles on the odometer.

No accidents one owner.

u/Wolfmaster999 — 6 days ago

Used 2022 or new 2026?

One's obviously got a larger price tag, but separate from that... which one is the 'better car'? Which is more likely to have issues down the road? Which one's more fun to drive?

The 2026 has more quality-of-life features, but that might also mean more things that could break in 5-15 years.

What's the story on these two generations of car?

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u/starkestrel — 6 days ago

2023 Prime XSE Cluster Recall

I’m looking at a ‘23 XSE that still has an open recall for the gauge cluster BSOD however the cluster currently works fine. If I buy this vehicle, is it possible to get on the list for the replacement part while I continue to drive the vehicle and just take it in when the part arrives?

Going months without a vehicle is not an option for me but I really like this vehicle. The dealer I’m hopefully buying from is not a Toyota dealer so is unable to perform the recall before purchase.

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u/Chimbo84 — 8 days ago

Charger replacement

I’m currently sitting in a dealership signing paper for a used 2023 Prime XSE. Only thing wrong with the car is a missing level 1 charger. Can any of you recommend a replacement?

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u/Chimbo84 — 7 days ago

Sub Courtesy

Twice in the past month I've seen RTFM (read the fucking manual) in response to posts. I'm interested to hear how others feel about this. I find it dismissive and insulting. It implies a stupid question or that the poster should have done research before posting. The rules of the sub call for comments to be civil, mature and constructive. RTFM violates all of those in my opinion.

A constructive response might be "On page XXX the owners manual states..." Alternatively, if the question posed isn't worth your trouble, don't say anything.

For my 26 Rav4 PHEV the manuals are a combined 1,092 pages. I've read them and I still don't know how lots of things work. This sub has been a valuable resource for me.

How do other feel about the use of RTFM?

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u/NoValuable427 — 8 days ago

2026 RAV4 PHEV GR Sport

I’m so excited! My RAV4 PHEV GR Sport will be here in 9 days! I traded in my 2024 XSE Prime and got $41k for the traded in. I was shocked how much they hold their value.

Any previous Prime owners on here that upgraded to the RAV4 PHEV GR Sport owners? If so, how are you liking the sportier upgrade?

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u/brianvoip — 8 days ago
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Rav4 Adventure Fuel Consumption

I recently purchased an 2022 Rav4 adventure, on a full tank fuel the total km range which is showing in the cluster is around 470 km is this kind of the range you are also getting or is it lower.

Im driving mostly in the city side and not able to use cruise mode often.

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u/Rog992 — 7 days ago

Toyota App

I just got a new 2026 Rav4, and the Toyota app is seriously bad. It doesn't even show charging info or how many miles are on the car. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

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u/ProfessionalSea6988 — 9 days ago