r/starwarsspeculation

Marvel has already made a "Marvel What If." I feel like a "Star Wars What If" would be much better than a "Marvel What If" generally speaking. If there's a "Marvel What If" then how come there isn't a "Star Wars What If"? I feel that it would just be such a good show and it would be so interesting to see specific scenarios:

* What if Anakin waited in the Jedi Council like Mace Windu asked?

* What if Luke never went to Toche Station?

* What if Padmé never died?

It would just be such an interesting show.

The title basically says it all.

I was just wondering what people thought on the idea of Ren(Not from the comic) becoming the main villain in Star Wars. Rey rebuilding the Jedi while battling Ren who has his own sith code and new knights of ren.

He could even recruit his apprentice, Shin Hati, from Cal’s secret Jedi/Hidden Path sanctuary. It could move the story in an interesting direction, while keeping the story within its own narrative, separate from the movies enough to not make any problems.

First of all, I’m not sure how important Ryan Gosling’s character will be in the long run. But I do think the young character from Star Wars: Starfighter will become part of the new generation and probably end up as one of the main characters. If the rumors are true, he’ll eventually join Rey’s Jedi Order.

Rey’s movie is the next Star Wars film, and I actually think it’ll end up being a trilogy with a third movie as well. After that, I think Simon Kinberg’s trilogy will continue the story with time jumps, similar to the Prequel Trilogy, focusing on the same young Jedi under Rey and bringing back a real overarching main storyline.

I want this to be the kind of Star Wars where it actually feels like everything is at stake again not just another Mando & Grogu movie, but a story with high stakes that really matters. I also think Disney will take inspiration from the old Legends material, especially Luke’s Jedi Order and the wars they fought, and adapt those ideas for this new era.

I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling these words will not be spoken aloud in the movie:

-The First Order

-Rey Skywalker

-The Final Order

-Kylo Ren

They're going to try and vague it up as much as possible to avoid what they perceive to be controversial and wind right back up with the sequel trilogy problem of the setting and context being confusingly vague. Because you inherently can't follow up on the sequels without referencing them without a larger time jump.

It's no secret Star Wars has been trending in the wrong financial direction since the sequels concluded. The third movie lost almost a billion dollars from the first movie in that trilogy. The Mando movie recently bombed. Now Disney is desperately trying to patch their timeline with content that does not ultimately matter because it all advances to the sequels. The sequel trilogy was largely a disaster for Disney because, while the protagonists in the original trilogy had greatness thrust upon them, the protagonists in the sequel trilogy were little more than Star Wars fans trapped in a Star Wars film, desperately wanting to be heros. This disaster continues to cost Disney billions of dollars, and they know this.

How does Disney save the franchise, and ultimately, their bottom line? Implement a 10 year plan. Disney needs to take these years to build a trilogy script. They have plenty from the extended universe to pull from. They can take these 10 years to slowly reskin their theme park rides as well.

The turning point for Disney, and the Star Wars story, is that the sequels are a force premonition given to Luke while he's sleeping. The premonitions came to him after he begins to fear one of his apprentices is slowing turning to the dark side. The Force, or even Yoda, calls out to Luke which ends up saving his Jedi academy. The stories from the EU transpire from there.

Disney can pay for the rights to CGI a young Luke. Alternatively, they can find a look-a-like. It's time Disney stops trying to put a band-aid on a shotgun wound. By not doing this, Disney risks losing so much more.

I have a Theory about Rey Skywalker I was wondering why Rey Skywalker and after I had watched a Star Wars Fan Film saying She was Luke's Blood I discovered something very Interesting; What if Rey Skywalker spelled backwards is really Yer Skywalker and that works because that means Rey Skywalker is Luke's Kin get it Your Skywalker it's a stretch but maybe now if we only knew who Snoke was before Palpatine used him for controling to discover that would be nice.

But what do You think Yer Skywalker Your a Skywalker neat right that means Luke is alive in Rey and on that Clone Comic World too and maybe if Jorus Cboath is made canon Lukke Skywalker too Three Beings that have Luke in them Suddenly the Sequels are much more interesting

What if during the Battle of Cato Neimoidia, Kit Fisto is dispatched to replace Plo Koon for some reason. Because of this, when Anakin informs the council of Palpatine’s betrayal, Plo Koon is available to calm Anakin and keep him in a calm bay. Then he would also be present at the arrest and is a much stronger Jedi than Kit. Would this mean Palpatine could have died or been arrested? Or at least Mace and Plo and maybe Tiin could have escaped with their lives? What occur?

We know Maul has great potential and that George Lucas had grand plans for him to exist after the OT. In Shadow Lord we learn even more and that now he has an apprentice. We see how he operates and uses body doubles. He's after all of his enemies whilst trying to stay in the shadows as best he can. He is usually extremely patient.

He doesn't want to lose and you start rooting for him, we know he becomes strong again and rebuilds his crime syndicate. He looks more powerful, physically stronger, bulkier build and wealthy judging by his outfit, jewellery, upgraded legs and another new lightsaber compared to Shadow Lord where he is weakened, weathered and clearly trying to survive navigating the early Dark Times.

In Rebels he's like an old hermit stranded on Malachor for some reason. Different outfit and saber and I know some of this can be put down to Rebels art style but he's skinnier and has clean white teeth, this is not that long after SOLO. You may laugh but he has clean white teeth and you know a clone would too because it hasn't been alive for long using his teeth. Doesn't really talk much about his past or any of his own lore or mention of criminal empire, apprentice etc. I know back then they hadn't come up with his apprentice and syndicate etc. but clearly now they have more plans for him.

Similar to Galen Marek's clone but has memories that he thinks are his own. He often turns delusional and crazy another symptom of a clone experiment gone wrong. None of the Rebels characters knew him before so they wouldn't be able to tell. Everything seems like a game to him now and suddenly he's after Kenobi again and not the Emperor and then he dies in a very anticlimactic way though some think its kino, in an inferior animation style, a great character who started out in live action that deserved better especially now after seeing Shadow Lord you see that they could have done more in Rebels perhaps if they had a higher age rating and budget.

Why and how would he have a clone or clones you may ask. Palpatine struggled to do so. In a way a sort of revenge that he has unlocked a secret that his master has not, he has something even Palpatine doesn't have remember Maul is a Sith Lord too that rivals Palpatine and Vader when they wanted rule of two. As a Sith whilst running his syndicate he must have had goals he was working towards and learning from his failure, the history of the Sith and his master, and he has night sister magic on his side that we have seen do incredible things!

Even if he doesn't clone himself he would create contingency plans just like Sidious. He uses body doubles, decoys in Shadow Lord that are Night Brothers anyway. The next level is to make a clone decoy to do his bidding or fake his death, or maybe keep on ice.

I know clone storylines were done badly recently with Palpy and Snoke in TROS but they can be executed well ignore TROS and remember we have lots of great clone content in Star Wars lore including the clone army, Kaminoans, Bad Batch and Expanded Universe, The Force Unleashed, Old Republic it's an interesting and engaging theme in science fiction.

If Malachor Maul is a clone he likely escaped and went rogue and genuinely thinks he is the real Maul.

Lastly this isn't the first time the idea of a Maul clone has been played with. In TFU you have the Maulkiller clone which has the combined DNA of Starkiller and Maul. It's a skin but it's obviously playing with the interesting idea and EU level of fun. It also appears in the comics and duels Vader. Secondly the cancelled Maul game battle of the Sith Lords had lots of ideas thrown around after rewriting it being set in Clone Wars it was going to be set far in the future after the films and the character was a clone/descendant of Darth Maul with his apprentice Talon and I believe possibly a clone of Savage Opress too in the Legacy era and he would attack the One Sith including Darth Krayt and Jedi of that time.

Thanks for reading!

[Edit: EPISODE VIII FIX (not VII like in title).

Abrahms and Johnson could have made Episode VIII and the arguably biggest plothole (Holdo Maneuver) in series very interresting:

- Let the Assassination Attempt against Snoke fail.
- Make Poe find evidence that Holdo is a First order Spy and a Sith, trained in secret by Snoke and reveal to the audience in some way that this is actually true (Example: Make her the reason that the rebellion could be tracked in some way - either force or technical).

- Now let the Plot unfold like it did in the Movie. Make the audience really hate Holdo (easy). Maybe you have to make some extra scenes where Holdo tries in vain to convince everyone that Holdo is a Spy and make a plan to rescue everyone - which is thwarted ofc.

- Now right before or after the Holdo maveuver: Enlighten the audience about Holdo’s tragic origin. How she was forced to lead this brutal double life and let her comerades die in order to ensure that she could survive. Reveal that she was able to use the Force - in fact she had one of the strongest precognitive abilities ever - probably the strongest reliable way to make something like the Holdo Maveuver possible and this was her way to pay back all the shit she had to take while making the biggest possible damage towards to first order, killing Snoke in the process.
- Luckyly for the protagonists she was acting as a double agent and secret apprentice of Snoke ultimately desciding to help out against the first order - though more in a selfish kind of way. Leave out the Lea-Space scene.

BAM - this would have actually made her character tragic, interresting and would have fixed a lot of dumb stuff about the movie like the impossibility that is the the Holdo Maveuver. Now tell me what you think about this and how you would have fixed this movie!

When do you guys think Jedi 3 is coming out or any news you guys have seen or heard of