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Count the possessions you actually own and think about how much you would want them if they weren’t already yours — Marcus Aurelius, Meditations.
Marcus Aurelius - Roman Emperor from 161–180 AD
this one line from epictetus is the reason i stopped caring what most people think
"If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid."
— Epictetus, Enchiridion, Chapter 13
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okay so sit with that for a second.
not just read it and move on. actually think about what he's saying here because it's genuinely uncomfortable if you let it land properly.
he's not saying other people will think you're foolish. he's saying be content with it. accept it as part of the deal. because the moment you start actually changing something, learning something new, dropping an old pattern that looked confident and replacing it with something unfamiliar that looks uncertain — you will look worse before you look better. to yourself sometimes. definitely to the people watching.
think about the last time you didn't try something because of how the trying would look. not how the result would look. how the learning-it, being-bad-at-it, figuring-it-out phase would look to people who are watching.
that gap — between not starting and starting — is exactly what epictetus is pointing at. and he's saying the price of crossing it is being willing to look like you don't know what you're doing. because you don't. not yet. that's the whole point.
most people never cross it. they stay inside the things they already do well because doing things well looks like competence and trying new things looks like stumbling and stumbling in front of people is the one thing the ego will do almost anything to avoid.
he wrote this from a life where he had genuinely nothing to protect. no status, no reputation, no image carefully managed across social platforms. and he still had to name this. which tells you how deep the thing runs, that even someone with nothing to lose still felt the pull of protecting how they looked while they were learning.
you're not going to look polished at the beginning of anything real.
that's not a problem to solve. that's just what the beginning looks like.
marcus aurelius left one line in his journal that i keep coming back to every time i overthink something
"Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present."
— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, Book 7
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the part that most people skip over is the second half.
everybody relates to the first half. don't let the future disturb you. yes, agreed, easier said than done, noted, moving on. but the second half is where the actual argument lives and it's a genuinely strange and useful one.
whatever you will face, when you face it, you will have the same tools you have now. not better tools. not tools you'll have acquired by worrying about it in advance. the exact same capacity for reason, for judgment, for finding a way through that you are currently carrying today. and if those tools are enough to handle today, which they are, because you're still here, still functioning, still navigating whatever today contains, then they will be enough for the future version of the problem too.
this sounds simple until you actually try applying it to the specific thing you've been catastrophizing about.
you've been building a mental version of that future problem for weeks probably. you've populated it with worst cases and run it forward through every bad outcome you could construct. and in none of those mental rehearsals did you give yourself credit for the fact that you would also be there, with the same intelligence, the same ability to adapt, the same problem-solving capacity that has gotten you through every previous version of a thing you thought you might not get through.
you've met hard things before. you met them with what you had at the time. and you're still here.
marcus wrote this to himself during years when the hard things were actual wars and actual plagues and the death of people he loved. his point wasn't that the hard things wouldn't come. it was that the worrying before they arrived did nothing to improve the tools he'd use when they did.
stop rehearsing the crisis. you'll handle it when it arrives.
you always have.
We suffer more often in imagination than in reality. Seneca
Best quote ever
Epictetus on the Chief Task in Life: What Is and Is Not Up to Us [Discourses 2.5]
The quote:
“The chief task in life is simply this: to identify and separate matters so that I can say clearly to myself which are externals not under my control, and which have to do with the choices I actually control. Where then do I look for good and evil? Not to uncontrollable externals, but within myself, to the choices that are my own.” — Epictetus, Discourses, 2.5.4–5
"No person has the power to have everything they want, but it is in their power not to want what they don’t have, and to cheerfully put to good use what they do have." – Seneca
Moral Letters to Lucilius – Letter 123