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Confusion on the Kyle Hate?

I just started watching summer house about two months ago (before all the West and Amanda drama happened, but so glad I have been deep in SH while it’s all been unfolding)

I am currently at the beginning of season 8 and I truly cannot understand the hate everyone has for Kyle. Sure, early on when he was hot and cold with Amanda and she wanted a relationship and he didn’t, I could easily see disliking him. But as the seasons have gone on, I feel like he has grown on me and really isn’t that bad of guy?? He seems to truly love Amanda (at least at the point where I am at in watching) I still have two full seasons to go and I know a lot can change, but as of right now, Kyle to me, feels misunderstood and doesn’t process his emotions properly but overall seems like a good friend to everyone on the cast and a decent husband? Am I just reading the room totally wrong on this call? 😅

Kyle also has always seemed very upfront and unapologetic about who he is. He likes to party. Loves the party lifestyle. It seems like Amanda walked into the relationship knowing this and wanted to change him - a lot of the fights they’ve had really seem to fall back on her thinking she could change him. He has never sold himself as anything else??

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u/Cjenx17 — 14 hours ago
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Any Irish summer house fans?

I’m from Galway and I’m desperate for more info on Eoin and his (ex?) wife!!

I don’t know anyone who knows him. I’m too young to have been in his circles. I’ve been asking around 🤣

Someone must know him and the deets!

For context: it’s a very long process to get divorced in Ireland so they are definitely still married!

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u/dominickstreet — 15 hours ago
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Kyle's power move with Amanda's back rent

I almost died laughing at Kyle adding up all of Amanda's back rent for the three years she hasn't paid and charging her like over $100k. Good move. The way she acted like it was no big deal to pay him surprised me because like why hasn't she been carrying her weight when she's able as his company flounders and he has cut his own salary? She's an awful wife and partner.

u/Rutabaga2022 — 1 day ago
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Does Danielle Have Any Fans

I’ve been a fan of her since the earlier seasons and I agree she did get annoying toward the end of her time on the show. But the hatred for her is so overblown. So I’m out here asking if there is anyone who’s not maybe a stan but atleast likes Danielle

Also slightly interesting I don’t see anyone worrying for Danielle’s mental health when she has been the one bullied/piled up on by the fans the most…

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u/mentallyonabeach — 1 day ago
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Criticism of Amanda ≠ Bullying

I genuinely think Amanda Batula is being coddled right now. She is not being “piled on” — people are reacting to behavior we all watched play out on the show and apparently after continuing into the reunion.

What’s frustrating is that she still doesn’t seem genuinely remorseful. Most of her comments about the situation lately revolve around her mental health and how hard the internet has been on her. Kyle & West's statements also kind of echo this. Even in her & West's IG statement - she never addressed or apologized to Ciara directly. She seems incapable of not putting herself at the center.

Then at the reunion using Ciara’s own “you can't help who you love” argument to justify her own behavior. Meanwhile Kyle is still protecting her and we're watching Amanda crying that she was "all in" when we watched her belittle Kyle and diminish their relationship all summer.

One appearance where she looked thinner on the In the City premiere suddenly has everyone treating her with kid gloves and acting like any criticism is bullying. Criticism of her actions & behaviors playing out is not the same thing as harassment in my opinion. I feel like the only reason it even feels like a “pile on” is because viewers are responding to episodes in real time as they air.

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u/sookie-stjames93 — 1 day ago
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Summer House Finale and In The City Premiere Were Reality TV Art

This was masterful reality tv — I feel like they learned the lesson from VPR and created a cast that feels strong enough to carry summer house while transitioning the ogs out in a way that felt organic. I feel insane bc I almost cried multiple times during the finale. Watching Lindsay Kyle Carl and Amanda be so sentimental knowing that summer house as they know it is done (AKA their youth) but watching these newbies experience their first or early seasons and the excitement of the journey they are about to start.

Idc what anyone says I want all the young people to stay: Ciara Jesse west mia kj Dara Bailey Levi Ben and Sabrina

I feel like there’s great chemistry and lots of drama. The ogs can drop in

I hope they bring Carl to the city and I’m excited to watch the others live their lives on there with their random friends we’ve seen pop up on social media / past seasons etc.

Everyone wants all these people canceled but I’m SO invested. Idk maybe I’m losing my mind but these 2 hours of tv truly felt like reality tv masterpiece art for me. 😭😭😭😭

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u/ughplzdntjudgeme — 1 day ago
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Is it just me? Kyle looked really hot during WWHL

Idk what’s wrong with me because I’ve seen this show for years, and I’ve never found Kyle attractive. But the entire time I was watching Watch What Happens, I was actively thinking about how good he looked, especially when I muted my volume.

u/Fast-Lie6067 — 1 day ago
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Amanda wanting to go in the pool - Episode 16

Watching last night episodes and Amanda is going around to everyone saying how she wants to jump in the pool and is very insistent on it. Is it just me or does it seem like she was trying to push Kyle’s buttons and have him flip out like he did earlier in the season? Her emphasizing “like we used to” makes me think that’s likely the case and they used to all jump in nude.

Maybe I’m reading into it but she clearly came into the house this summer with an agenda, and that agenda was starting to end it with Kyle at the end of it. During the conversation the next day she blames him saying “fuck you” and his reaction for the reason she’s getting a hotel which is something he’s done before. I think she wanted him to blow up the last night to have a bigger reason as to why she needed a hotel.

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u/Particular-Nerve7625 — 1 day ago
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West’s strategy of minimally speaking in groups

All signs point to a minimally speaking west in the reunion, and I think it’s important that we understand West does this not because he’s scrambling to find words or doesn’t care, but because he is *very actively* trying to determine in his head what he can and can not say based on his multiple and layered audiences. Oftentimes, there are so many contradictions that silence becomes his choice.

I remember when the season 8 reunion aired, I found it super odd that he was so tongue tied during the whole Ciara thing! He could have apologized in a very direct way for misleading her, but he kind of stuttered and shuffled around points. In hindsight I realize that he did this not necessarily because he was uncomfortable, but because he was toeing a very thin line in terms of the lies he’d been telling women.

We now know that he met and start seeing Montana girl the same exact summer he started to see Ciara, 2023. So by the fall, he was juggling at least Montana girl and Ciara, and presumably others as well. Paige had things slightly wrong. He didn’t just break up with Ciara because of the women to come once the show aired, but because of the women he was *currently* with who would be seeing the show.

He knew Meija would be watching and wondering what the status of this relationship with Ciara was, and so he needed to be able to say it was nothing. That’s why when it came time to face her, he hesitated with a clear apology because he didn’t want to admit to the existence of his relationship at all.

This upcoming reunion, he’s only expanded his audience. Now the situationships are not only watching, they’re known by the cast members. There are quite literally too many constituencies to keep track of. So he’s going to say as little as possible.

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u/Summershouldbefun909 — 1 day ago
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Glad this convo happened and it gave more context about why people didn’t understand why Lindsay didn’t move on

Anybody and everyone who would be in Lindsay’s shoes would also be as spiteful as Lindsay has been towards Carl and his mother.

Lindsay literally held Carl when he lost his brother and checked in on Sharon the entire time. More than any other cast member on summer house. Lindsay was there for that family.

For Sharon to talk 💩 on camera behind her back and not speak with Lindsay post dump, then party in Mexico is honestly so gross.

Lindsay didn’t even need to talk to Sharon at Softbar and was in her own right to avoid her and people were dragging Lindsay for this.

Anyone who was engaged then dumped last minute and not reached out to by the grooms family that went to the wedding party, would be livid. But people insist on Lindsay being 100% in the wrong. Like what?

Yes, Lindsay does have a baby and it’s opened a new way of life for her far from Carl and his enabling mother.

But Carl did owe her that conversation and she was owed an apology for his mom’s gross behavior.

u/BLN2019 — 1 day ago
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Gemma and Social Media

Hopefully I don’t get too much hate for this but, genuinely curious why Lindsey would go through the effort to not post Gemma on social media only to turn around and put her on a bravo show?

ETA: I clearly haven’t watched WWHL okay guys 🤣🙄

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u/Leather-Law-9159 — 1 day ago
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Kyle on WWHL talks Ciara/West kissing before the last episode

Kyle stated on WWHL last night “I was with them at the US open. They hashed it out. 24 Hours later they were making out.”

I gathered Kyle is referring to boat day (Sat. Aug 23) as the date West/Ciara hashed things out. A little more than 24 hours later (Mon. Aug 25) he is with them at the US open and spots Ciara/West making out for the first time that summer. This is before the last episode and dreaded kiss scene.

TIMELINE - AUGUST 2025

SATURDAY AUG. 23: BOAT DAY
- West and Ciara reconcile and agree to be friends
- Ciara and West have now “hashed” things out

MONDAY AUG. 25: US OPEN
- Of course it’s not filmed
- Kyle/West/Lindsay in the Amazon suite (link here)
- Amanda’s not in the picture, but attended with** Kyle/West/Lindsay (link here - time stamp 5:22)
- Ciara/Mia/Carl in the Cadillac suite (link here)**
- Both groups seen waving at each other
- West/Remi Bader?? (link here)
- Kyle is with Ciara and West at some point
- Kyle spots Ciara and West making out
- Possible first time they kissed since ending things

SUNDAY AUG. 31: FINAL DAY
- Ciara and West stay up until 6am after the ski party
- Ciara and West make out outside on the couch
- First time the audience sees them kiss all summer
- Ciara and West make out again in his room

u/googleobtuse — 1 day ago
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Universe, please give me a friend like Ciara

Seriously. What a treasure of a friend to hold her face and tell her all these sweet things. If you're this kind of human, you're a gem that should be protected at all costs.

u/reikobun — 1 day ago
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Does anyone remember what season this happened in?

I don’t remember Danielle denying it back then, but it looks like it’s going to get messy between these two (and whoever told Lindsay about it in the first place)!

u/PlumCautious6812 — 1 day ago
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The Performance of West Wilson, Timeline from Day 0...

WW has never NOT been a performative self-producing OPPORTUNIST W/ AN AGENDA, desiring notoriety or fame...(job prior was being a producer so he's familiar w/self-producing for camera + social media.)

WW proactively slid into the producers' DMs to get on the show after Lindsay put him in the mix.

Ciara served his selfish needs for relevancy, a platform, a storyline from Day 1. He admittedly watched the show after getting cast to prepare for how to move for his 1st season -

  • SEPTEMBER 2013 - 2018 - WW "plays" football @ Montana State (big man on campus - don't forget convo his 1st season w/his aunt saying he had a hard transition to NY, bc of being a small fish in a big pond)
  • OCTOBER 2018 - WW starts YouTube show "Napkins" Described the opportunity as making him realizing it was a great gateway to access important people etc. (he's calculated/wants notoriety in any form possible)
  • SUMMER 2022 - DAY 0 - WW first meets Lindsay out at bar "randomly/not knowing who she was (so he says)." Lindsay formulates napkin contract for potential podcast idea, they become friends. WW is not well known, only works for Bleacher Report.
    • Lindsay throws WW in for casting suggestions.
    • WW proactively slid into the producers' DMs to get on the show
  • DECEMBER 2022 - WW LAID OFF FROM BLEACHER REPORTER PRODUCING JOB as later seen on SH
  • SUMMER 2023 WW films 1st season Summer 2023
    • WW felt insecure entering SH with Jesse, who was the expected to be favorite.
    • WW openly discusses not wanting to be associated with Lindsay/Carl and their drama, as she is the one who brought him into the house
    • Jesse's who the girls openly admitted in aftershow and interviews who they were most excited for. Jesse is whose "instagram they stalked" and was a character in their heads. The girls said "it was not possible for him to live up to their expectations of him they created"
    • WW on camera openly states "I won" at end of drunken late night out - declaring himself house newbie favorite over Jessie, after Jesse messed up leaving his new friends to fend for themselves at a party in the Hamptons he brings them all out to
  • AUGUST - DECEMBER 2023 - WW is @ some point cast on SH, and after admittedly prepped by watching the show (which he claimed he'd never see, don't believe that either...) WW proactively slid into the producers' DMs to get on the show after Lindsay put him in the mix.
  • JANUARY 2024 - WW IS ANNOUNCED AS NEW SH CAST MEMBER
  • SH Season 8 airs February 2024 displaying West's 1st season/his relationship with Ciara forming
  • MARCH 2024 - WW HAD HIS FIRST VIRAL TIKTOK OF HIM GETTING HIT BY CAR ON BIKE IN NY
  • APRIL 11TH, 2024 - WW opens up about the massive career update. “I think it's not really a secret anymore, if you follow my Instagram or Twitter or anything, that I am employed,” he said on the April 11 episode. “I'll save the fun, juicy moment for the show. But, I do have a job now. Income, health insurance.”
  • APRIL 19th, 2024 - WW Rolling Stone Magazine Article titled "WEST WILSON'S SECRET TO THRIVING ON 'SUMMER HOUSE'? NOT BEING A 'MONSTER A-HOLE' - the entire time he was fully calculated + acting!
  • May 26th, 2024 WW NYT Article #1 (titled "WW is the breakout star of SH" - refused comment on Ciara
    • Article covers his background, his parents, and refused to comment on Ciara
  • MAY 30th, 2024 SH FINALE AIRS
  • JUNE 6th, 2024 REUNION PART 1 AIRS
    • WW responds he's "some dude who came onto the show and is just Ciara's puppet" + Paige (a fan favorite at time) aggressively holds WW accountable for his poor treatment of Ciara Miller
  • JUNE 12th, 2024 WW NYT Article #2 titled "WW of 'Summer House' Discusses His First Taste of Infamy"
    • Subheadline "When Mr. Wilson was accused on the reunion of misleading Ciara Miller, his castmate and former romantic interest, fan backlash was swift."
    • ARTICLE HIGHLIGHTS WW FROM FAN FAVORITE TO VILLAIN
  • JULY 2024 SH starts filming Season 9 - Ciara 1st chance to finally address article on camera
    • Ciara tells West "How embarrassing is it you published an article to reiterate how much you don't like me" - Ciara is confused because in article he states differently than what WW states @ reunion about being both open to and mutually wanting another chance with Ciara in future
  • JULY/AUGUST 2024 - SH Season 9 films - WW S10 refers to this time as when he'd "LOST HIS VOICE"
    • West is not as well received by fans and takes a back place that season "trying not to piss Ciara off"
  • APRIL 2025 - West posts Macarena video of Amanda. West and Amanda spend week in LA together with hotel rooms next door (without Kyle), first we see of them starting to post each other
  • JUNE 5th 2025 - Blind Item of Amanda cheating on Kyle is released (**when has a blind item that's turned out to be true, ended up just being wrong/"too early" on the timing),
    • June 5th, same day WW post has song "my ex's best friend" + Amanda "I broke my vows" posts
  • JULY 2025 - SH Season 10 - West wants to have redemption arc era with Ciara for sake of fans/following, admits on camera to her he resents her for the backlash he received on their relationship and even prior
  • AUGUST 2025 - Ciara + WW rekindle friendship on camera, and later make out
    • prior to this, in same month Amanda now visibly weird about West and Ciara's friendship
  • SEMPTEMBER 2025 - *Noting - September 25th 2026 - Amanda/Kyle MOVE OUT convo on "In The City" was 4 DAYS after Amanda pregamed @ WW apartment for his date w/Mia Alario - WW is possible motivation for move-out
    • SEPTEMBER 21ST - Amanda pregames @ WW apartment for his date with Mia Alario from Southern Hospitality
    • SEPTEMBER 25TH - Amanda/Kyle decision to MOVE OUT on camera filmed for "In The City" ... ONLY 4 DAYS LATER!!!!!! (on their wedding anniversary)
  • OCTOBER 2025 - WW posts Amanda and him out solo at drinks
  • NOVEMBER 2025 - Bravocon where Amanda marks her territory of West to Mia from Southern Hospitality
  • NOVERMBER / DECEMBER 2025 - Speculation Amanda and Kyle are separated
  • JANUARY 2026 - Amanda and Kyle release join statement on separation
  • FEBRUARY 2026 - WW + Amanda self-admittedly serious by this point (while he still has entire other girlfriend Meija in Montana)
    • FEBRUARY 3rd - WWHL Ciara + Amanda lying to her
    • FEBRUARY 8th - WW + Ciara attend Superbowl together with Abercrombie - post photo together
  • MARCH 2026:
    • MARCH 6th - WW posts photo of him with baby GEMMA, Ciara, Lindsay WHILE he's seen physically out in NYC streets with Amanda - Lindsay later stated West used the baby and Ciara as a "decoy" to distract people and cover up rumors about his relationship with Amanda
    • MARCH 10th - Kyle defends WW and Amanda together rumors on WWHL
    • MARCH 15th/16th - WW still comments "holy frick" Ciara's posts for fans to see
    • MARCH 23rd - WW on WWHL wearing his girlfriend Meija's tie who he shouts-out as his "friend", also denies rumors of Amanda but says "to be clear that's someone I really care about" - Kyle admits he still didn't believe they're together by this point
    • MARCH 31st - Amanda + WW joint situationship statement

https://www.tiktok.com/@the.christina_chronicles/video/7630976548937452831 (tiktok gives nice summary of the West Wilson original NYT article timelines that upset Ciara so much, and what he was trying to recover from all of Seasons 9 and 10) IT'S NEVER NOT BEEN A PERFORMANCE...

*SEPTEMBER 2025 + WWHL MARCH 2026 DATES CONFIRM HOW EASILY AMANDA/WEST LIE FOR CAMERAS + TO THEIR OWN CLOSEST PEOPLE (KYLE + CIARA)... SHE TELLS KYLE SHE'S MOVING OUT ON ANNIVERSARY, JUST 4 DAYS AFTER SHE PREGAMES @ WEST'S PLACE FOR HIS DATE W/MIA FROM SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY... WEST WAS REASON FOR MOVING OUT CONVO IN SEPTEMBER...MOVING OUT IS SO MUCH WORK, AND AMANDA DOES NOT TAKE INITIATIVE/DO WORK...THERE WAS AN IDEA OF WANTING OWN PLACE FOR CONTINUING SUCH ACTIVITIES FREELY...

u/SonjaritaMorgan — 1 day ago