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Which champion is forced to build 1 item/to follow one build path?
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Which champion is forced to build 1 item/to follow one build path?

Yesterday I was playing Sett and looked him up on onetricks to find out which runes and build to use. To my (mild) surprise, literally every Sett main in high elo goes Stridebreaker, and there is basically zero variety in the next two items. Most go Stride > Cleaver > Bloodmail, with a few going Bloodmail > Steraks or Cleaver > Steraks instead after Stride.

This was surprising even though I knew Stridebreaker is Sett's main item, because most other champions still have some build variety, even if it's gimmicky and flat out worse than their usual core items.

This raised a question, which champion is the most "forced" into a single build path?

Irelia

Irelia was the first champion I thought of. Her kit works so well with Blade of the Ruined King that it's what everybody builds. AP Irelia has recently become a thing-ish thanks to Baus, and I found an Irelia main who goes AP. It seems to have enough gimmicky moments that it isn't a full troll build, but I'd say she's still up there for being bound to BotRK. However, build variety after BotRK is pretty good, with many different paths, so she may not be #1 on this list.

Ezreal

The other champion I thought of was Ezreal. He goes basically the same first three items every game (Trinity > Manamune > Shojin), but I found a fair share of players going Essence Reaver instead, and a lot going Endless Hunger instead of Shojin as the third item. There was also one AP Ezreal Challenger player.

I tried thinking of ADCs but with with the items introduced at the start of this season I feel like every ADC I can think of can go a few different build paths, but I guess they are bound to IE/LDR if you'd count that.

So my question is, what are the champions who are most bound to 1 item and build path and are basically never able to go something else?

u/Nealper — 11 days ago

How do u support a Viegar or Brand ADC?

Hi!
I usually play Seraphine and am very beginner (finally broke through Iron) , and I’ve noticed a common issue where I have a hard time keeping Viegar and Brand ADCs alive. Usually it ends up with many deaths from either me or my ADC. Is there a certain way/tips that anyone can recommend?

(Also sorry for the spelling)

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u/Low_Clothes8154 — 11 days ago

I've been giving the support role a try, and I'm running into an issue...

This is a post asking for genuine help, I am not blaming my carry (well maybe a little bit but thats not what im getting at)

What in my power can I do, to help win my lane if my carry is eating every skillshot to the face? Wether be it a Mel, a Zyra, Lux, Morgana. what can I do? For example, I've just played with this smolder and he ATE every single skillshot with no attempt to dodge. and I don't blame him its rough playing into a mel/lux and we're not that high rank at all (silver) so its very rough, I was on maokai. but thats not the only instance, they take every single skillshot to the face, I feel unable to help them they're unable to help themselves and I cop the blame in the chat, getting spam pinged/insulted.

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u/HeyCuppp — 11 days ago

Is it true that enchanters are easier to climb?

Title self-explained.

Enchanters are the ones that scale best into the late game. Even if you lose your lane (I actually just stomped a Lulu in lane), as long as there’s someone on your team who is at least somewhat strong, in theory you just need to stick with them, spam some shields and you’ll eventually outscale the opposition.

I’d love to hear your thoughts.

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u/Gold-Mistake-9677 — 11 days ago

Is TF supp troll ?

I recently been trying out tf and I saw his kit and he looked like an annoying suppressive supp pick specially vs engaging supps like Leona, rell, panth, etc!

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u/CompetitionDenied — 12 days ago

Stuck in Plat 1 and losing streak, only a couple matches per week, how to not give up climbing? (not rant because i know it's my fault lol)

My main sups are Bard, Shen and Thresh. But I've been having a REALLY hard time in recent games, i'm just not playing good league rn.

There's a massive gap in skill ceilings at this rank that’s just exhausting; the variance in matchups—especially regarding the ADCs you play with and against—makes it hard to find a universal pick that’s a solid all-rounder.

And the people... bro... I'd rather deal with five Bronze players than a single Emerald player; it's just awful.

I only play about 3 to 5 matches a week, so it's really hard to make that work, lol.

u/Gold-Mistake-9677 — 12 days ago

Looking for good support content creators to improve my role.

Hello everyone,

I slowly realised that mastering a champion can only get you that far in my elo.

I'm in silver 3 right now and even though I am playing really casual, like after work 1-3 games casual, I want to climb. My goal of reaching gold might be really stupid to some but I really wanna go there.

And since I can play a good amount of support champs pretty good, what I am lacking is all the other stuff. The management of everything, when to ward, when to get support item stacks and stuff like that.

Are there any content creators that do explain stuff like this? Plus points of it's for lower elo as well.

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u/Gallifrey934 — 12 days ago

[Rant/Vent] players in ranked need more chill

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[DISCLAIMER]

I know I know you should ofc take ranked seriously but for me there is, at least maybe in my silver elo, a bit of a limit. We're not in a high stakes e-sports tournament after all.

Hello fellow supporters and other laners,

after I had a horrible encounter as a supporter I just needed to vent a bit. And yes maybe I am not taking this as serious as others but I still of course want to win.

The game was Veigar + me (Tahm Kench) in a lane. The fact that it was Veigar bot, was already annoying enough but I digress.

The problems began, when I last hitted a minion that was about to die, while Veigar used tp to got back to lane. (He couldn't have got it) But he pinged me and told me to leave the minions alone.

Then I used two of my support item proccs to kill two minions. Since I want to get my supp item asap and the enemy was not in range for me to trigger it off of them, I used the minions. Once again he got annoyed because he couldn't stack his q.

I calmly explained it but he didn't listen and proceeded to go to our Midlane and stayed there.

I don't know if I already stepped over a line or if I was still pretty rational but it really tipped me off. We managed to win in the end but still it was so annoying.

Some things that where especially annoying was firstly, why pick a Veigar botlane when you care so much about stacks. I know it's not much of a difference. Well the only difference is that the supporter occasionally ( be it with the support item or other skills during a trade) will take some of your minions to stack with. So just go mid with Veigar.

The other thing was that when I told the enemies that my botlaner left me over some minons, they teamed up with him and wanted to report me for trolling the team (wtf?) I mean sure he lost a few stacks but he already didn't land every q to begin with.

Well I don't know maybe I was wrong and I just couldn't see it. Im always open to suggestions on how to support properly. It's my favourite role after all. And of course I want to climb and I always trying to improve, be it the learning of a champ or micro managing the wards and stuff.

But this was just mean behaviour (in my perspective, I'm open for constructive criticism)

Well that is all.

TL:DR

Im apparently taking ranked not to serious enough because I took about 5 minions off of my botlaner.

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u/Gallifrey934 — 12 days ago

When to pick between Pyke, Tresh or Blitz?

All of them play around the hook mechanic. But what types of matchup/team composition are most suited to each champion?

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u/NaoPrecisoDeNome — 12 days ago

Sometimes you have to mind control your teammates to end the game

Sometimes, even with a 10k gold lead and enemy carry dead, your team will refuse to do baron or rotate for dragon objective. And instead will allow gaped enemy laner to get back in the game by feeding them kills/bounty.

And no amount of pings or typing will convince them otherwise.

Edit: Literally could have ended the game at 20 minute.

u/Unable-Heron-2274 — 11 days ago