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Garmin next gen sensors: 2026 onwards

Garmin next gen sensors: 2026 onwards

Garmin trademarked Muscle Battery in early 2026, a metric built on muscle oxygen (SmO2) data. The interesting part is that Garmin has read SmO2 from third-party sensors like Moxy and Train.Red over ANT+ for years, but has never made its own muscle oxygen hardware. The trademark suggests that is about to change. The pieces are all there: an established data standard, cheap NIRS components, and a proprietary score to wrap around the raw readings, exactly the pattern Garmin used with Cycling Dynamics and Body Battery. Hydration and breathing sensors have broader appeal but face a harder education problem, and the biochemical sensors like glucose and lactate look like follower territory where Garmin lets others absorb the regulatory risk first.

Muscle oxygen is a useful metric for serious athletes, but does it have a wide enough audience to justify Garmin building dedicated hardware?

Further reading: https://the5krunner.com/2026/06/29/garmin-next-sensors-2026/

u/the5krunner — 2 days ago

Garmin Forerunner 970 optical heart rate sensor recording 119 bpm all night and wiping sleep and HRV data: how to recover it

On the Forerunner 970 the optical heart rate sensor sometimes stops tracking correctly overnight. The watch records the first part of sleep normally, then resting heart rate jumps from the low 40s to a stuck reading near 119 for the rest of the night, stress sits at 100, and no HRV is recorded. Sleep stages, Body Battery, and recovery figures for that night are lost. Owners on this thread report the same pattern on current firmware across multiple units.

The sensor does not recover on its own once this starts. It keeps returning the invalid value until the watch is restarted, so the gap runs until morning if nothing intervenes. Turning off sleep mode after waking clears it, but the night data is already gone.

  • The only reliable intervention is to restart the watch as soon as you notice the stuck reading. If you check the watch in the night and see a heart rate that does not match how you feel, a restart at that point recovers the sensor and allows the remainder of the night to be tracked correctly. Waking to a normal resting heart rate on the display suggests the episode did not occur. Waking to a reading above 100 with stress at maximum confirms it did.

Garmin has not issued a firmware fix for this. Wearing the strap slightly higher on the wrist and ensuring it is snug before sleep reduces how often the fault triggers for some owners.

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u/the5krunner — 4 days ago

Apple smart ring: details behind the rumour.

Leaker Kosutami posted on 24 June that an Apple smart ring, referred to internally as iRing, is in active development. This contradicts both Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Oura's own CEO, who both said in 2024 that Apple had no plans to enter the category.

The cannibalisation argument, that a ring would eat into Apple Watch sales, is probably overstated: the ring buyer wants screen-free sleep and recovery tracking, the watch buyer wants a display and notifications. These are not the same person. The more credible internal threat is a screenless band, which competes more directly with entry-level Apple Watch purchases. Oura's broad biometric sensing patents are the bigger external obstacle, having already been used against Samsung and Ultrahuman in US courts. Is the cannibalisation fear the real reason Apple has held back, or is it the patent minefield?

Further reading: https://the5krunner.com/2026/06/27/apple-iring-smart-ring/

u/the5krunner — 4 days ago

Stryd 5.0 Running Power Meter Back in Stock

Stryd 5.0 is back in stock after selling out quickly following its late 2025 launch. Testing across a range of paces put it among the more accurate running pace sources available, with the free tier covering everything most runners will use. The only scenario where a second pod and a subscription make sense is if you want detailed bilateral gait analysis. For pace and power alone, one pod does the job.

Is the gait analysis case for two pods actually strong enough to justify the subscription cost?

Further reading: https://the5krunner.com/2026/06/22/stryd-5-0-running-power-meter-back-in-stock/

u/the5krunner — 9 days ago

hDrop sweat sensor calibration: why fluid loss runs high

I ran a controlled calibration test on the hDrop sweat sensor today: HYROX half sim, nude weigh-in before and after, nothing consumed during the session. Body-mass delta came out at 1.50 kg (1.50 L). hDrop measured 2.055 L, a 37% overestimate. The same direction showed up across two earlier sessions (Stockholm HYROX sim and the Dartmoor Classic), though neither had a rigorous weigh-in to confirm the figure.

The likely mechanism is indoor pooling. hDrop uses conductivity electrodes that need liquid sweat to produce a reading. Outdoors, sweat evaporates and skin stays relatively dry between cycles. In a low-airflow gym, sweat accumulates and keeps the electrodes saturated, so the algorithm reads a higher local rate than the body-weight change supports. Today's sweat rate was around 0.9 L/h, below hDrop's 1.5 L/h adaptive calibration threshold, so the high-sweat-rate algorithm wasn't the cause.

Sodium concentration held up better: Dartmoor plateau was 57 to 65 mmol/L, stable across the final two hours.

Working correction: divide the hDrop fluid loss figure by 1.37.

Is a single-site conductivity sensor ever going to give reliable absolute fluid loss figures, or is it always going to need a personal calibration run?

Further reading: the5krunner.com/2026/06/24/hdrop-calibration-fluid-loss/

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u/the5krunner — 7 days ago
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Help me choose - Amazfit, Sunnto or Polar

Hi,

I'm getting back into running after having children. I'm wanting the following from a watch:

- Ability to easily and reliably track pace from the watch (I wear reading glasses so the screen must be readable whilst running) and maybe vibrate or beep if I get out of pace zones

- Reliable GPS

- All day step counting

- Easily sync to the phone app for further analysis and push to Strava

- I want to also use it for spin cycling and weights so happy to have the ability to pair bluetooth HR strap if the wrist based sensor is average as I already own one

- Track long full day hikes, so good battery

I'm tossing up between the Suunto Pace Pro 9 (on sale for $220AUD), Polar Pacer (on sale for $180AUD) or Amazfit Active 3 (waiting for Prime Day next month). I have owned an Amazfit Bip 6 but it only lasted 6 months, so I'm really not sure they are any good.

Prefer something of better quality that's why I'm leaning towards Suunto, just not sure it will be too heavy ay 60g and that I can read the screen easily. What are your thoughts?

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u/louielowerplenty — 14 days ago

Garmin Race prediction paradox

Today I run a 5k in 17:26min, roughly 20seconds slower than my 5k prediction. It was an all out effort in Training on the track, so the race prediciton should adapt to it you would think. Paradoxically garmin increased the 10k time by over 20seconds, altthough my Vo2max decreased a little. I‘m curious if other people experienced the same and what could be the reason for it. Cheers.

u/Magsycarlsbad — 10 days ago

Amazfit Helio Strap PRO - hands on and details

Amazfit launched the Helio Strap Pro at the HYROX World Championship in Stockholm this week. I had hands-on time with both modules at the event and an exclusive interview with Jimmy Kennedy, Director of Products for Hybrid Training.

The product is a two-piece system: the Helio Core Motion HR arm strap, which is an evolution of the existing Helio Strap with HybridCharge replacing BioCharge, and a new Helio Core Motion waist sensor containing a 9-axis motion sensor. The two work together to produce a cardio/muscle exertion split and per-station movement analysis across all eight HYROX stations.

The technical logic is straightforward. Heart rate zones give you a reasonable cardio load number but tell you nothing about muscular strain. To estimate muscular work you need exercise type, load, range of motion, and movement speed. HYROX is the ideal environment for this because station weights are fixed by the rules, removing the one variable sensors cannot otherwise measure. A sled push is always 152kg for men. A wall ball is always 9kg. That makes the calculation tractable in a way it simply is not in a general gym.

Kennedy was candid about two gaps in the current system: race prediction personalisation from individual race history is not yet implemented, and venue geometry varies between cities in ways the current model does not account for. He described a New York example where Run 8 was 2.5 laps rather than two because of the venue layout, making his predicted pace a full minute off. Both are confirmed as in development.

The significant limitation to flag: the waist sensor is completely inactive outside HYROX Race and HYROX Simulation modes at launch. General gym, CrossFit, and open hybrid training get the arm strap only. More workout modes are confirmed as coming with no timeline.

At launch it works only with the Balance 3 and Balance Ultra.

Further reading: https://the5krunner.com/2026/06/18/amazfit-helio-strap-pro-hands-on/

u/the5krunner — 14 days ago