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Anna Karenina is a horrible person and so is the love interest Vronsky and her husband was actually nice—as far as I've read(Part 2 Chapter 9) (Spoilers ahead?)

Man, Idek where to start. I just started reading it and have not gone as far so no spoilers from future, but my genuine confusion is why do people side with Anna and loves Vronsky, when Alexey is the one who ended up with the shorter stick. He has like 3 flaws, I counted so far; He doesn't really ask her for consent before intercourse(but I'm sure as far as I've seen, if she refused, he'd understand and not push, unlike Vronsky, I can bet on that) and second he thinks in almost mechanical/logical way, but he never shows this outside so we can't make the point that Anna noticed that or something and lastly he shrinks away from issues that are too much can't really blame him as this is like a survival mechanism that he developed. But I do understand why women loves Vronsky and hates Alexey (mainly coz of the last 2 reasons) as they like a man who would rather die courageously than survive meekly. And there are other points too, like Alexey gives full freedom to his wife and isn't jealous as he understands that his woman is not really "his" woman, she is just a person with her needs and life and all he wants from her is the emotional & spiritual connection(as when he confronted his wife, he immediately clocked that she was lying and has shut off her connection with him from just one sentence from her, which shows how attentive he is to her and how sensitive he is, eventhough Anna believs otherwise) which again is unlike Vronsky as he literally says that she and him are one(co dependent) and he gets jealous and tried to un-up others constantly, trying to be the center figure, all of which is desirable to women, but in actuality is toxic beyond measure (Dear women, if you meet someone like Vronsky, run the other way don't think it'll be nice). This bring me to the original doubt, Did Tolstoy purposely wrote his characters like this? Uk to get more female audience or just to plainly show a character that is extremely flawed as the main and good ones? Or was it just the times? Like the times then had people believe these virtues were bad and these virtues were good? And my final question, Does the characters take a 180 in future chapter which would make Alexey so bad, that Anna (who is already) cheating on him a good thing?

I am honestly so confused coz people where really supporting their relationship and loving Vronsky and stuff. ( I only seen comments as such from (mostly) women on both the movies and the books, and which is why I specified women, sorry for that)

Also please avoid spoiling the future chapters and just say if Alexey do something bad in future chapters if the whole dynamic changes and nothing more.

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u/Danke666 — 3 days ago
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Don't you also think that Tolstoy left some stories in Anna Karenina without an ending?

I am referring, for example, to the unfulfilled romance of Sergei Ivanovich (Levin’s brother), or the story of Anna’s husband. It feels as though he left certain storylines hanging without bringing them to a conclusion—do you think so?

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u/Responsible-Sir4187 — 7 days ago
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Slowly reading War and Peace and realizing how much Tolstoy is saying about being human

My experience with War and Peace so far 🥹
I think the biggest thing I’m realizing is how much I would have missed if I rushed through this book.
I’m only at Volume 1, Part 3, Chapter 15, and already I feel like there are so many branches of life happening inside this one book.
I’m slowly noticing Tolstoy’s way of writing…the nature transitions, the symbolism, the incredible depth of his characters, and especially how human and raw they are. As they grow, they change. Some characters I can relate to, some I understand, and some I can only empathize with.
The war chapters have been a completely new experience for me too. The terminology, the military system, the movements, the hierarchy, the orders being passed down… and then seeing how chaotic war actually becomes in real time. Higher officials pressuring the lower ranks while sometimes they themselves don’t even fully know what they’re doing. And somewhere in the middle of all that chaos are ordinary human beings trying to survive.
And the more I read, the more disturbing the idea of war feels to me. Humans divide themselves into groups, draw lines between “us” and “them,” and then justify killing other human beings because of that division. Yet even within those groups, there are so many different people, personalities, beliefs, fears, hopes and reasons for being there. So much diversity within the very divisions we create. It makes the whole thing feel so contradictory.
And then there’s the other side of humanity that Tolstoy keeps showing…how much of what we do comes back to wanting recognition, power, money, status, importance, or simply love.
Maybe at the most basic level, we just want to be loved and witnessed. We want someone to see us, know us, and be there as we grow and change.
And somehow, Tolstoy has managed to make a war story feel like a study of life itself.
I’m only halfway through Volume 1 and already feeling like Tolstoy opened 47 tabs in my brain. 🥹

u/No-Championship4744 — 13 days ago