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I know she loved Belly like a daughter, but she was only alive to see the love triangle drama when it was more clumsy, low-consequence teenage romance. Do you think she’d still regard Belly positively after the drama after Conrad’s exam, the years of distance between her sons, and the failed engagement/ wedding? Only to then learn Belly goes on to marry her other son?

I feel like the first season is understandable behavior for hormonal teens and Susannah could easily give it a pass, but to make it to marriage-level commitment with both sons??? Even if they fully reconcile in the movie, this will be a lifelong sore subject at best.

(Also, how uncomfy will it be for Belly’s kids to realize she hooked up with and almost married their uncle???)

to preface I find the same in enjoyment in watching this show that I’ve heard people find in reality television. that being said season 3 is reached new height of ridiculousness and my suspension of disbelief has crumbled. Anyway all I’m here to say is that I was team jelly in season 1 but now I’m just team none of these people should end up in proximity to each other. Also I think Laurel needs to yell at these children a little more.

…you can name the episode and scene of pretty much every track on the TSITP soundtrack playlist.

What other signs are there?

Based on the spoilers we’ve gotten I do think he is going to the conflict or majority of the fall out and mending in the movie. He’s been in every single leak and unfortunately I think he will have as much screentime as Lola and Chris. Did the writers not see the reaction to episode 9? People were pissed he got a lot of screentime and focus. People do NOT like his character or screentime he takes up. He was going viral for hate tweets every week and everyone hating his high amount of screentime he and Belly got. I’m worried we’ll sit through a major storyline and screentime for him like S3 and Conrad gets railroaded/ half an arc and has to apologize profusely, I don’t trust the writers

When Belly was in the bathroom and was looking at her phone at the birthday messages, what was the point in that?

I did see some ridiculous discussion that she was looking for Jeremiah’s message while I never even thought that as a possibility and I still kind of don’t.

Can someone explain?

Seriously bc

*men

Im curious what demographic makes the majority of tsitp viewers. I wanted to go deeper with age, ethnicity ect. but unfortunately could only add so many options. If you are curious too, put your demographic and we'll find out:)

View Poll

Bonrad/ Conrad lovers (only) would you be happy if Belly and Jere were endgame and Conrad still had his happy ending with someone else??

I would be happy for Conrad but for Belly both her and Jere (especially him) would need some serious character development for me to be accept that she ends up with him.

I would love to hear others thoughts.

The TSITP movie is being made at a time where more of Gen Z is being introduced to Michael Jackson's music. The Michael movie is a huge success money maker. The demographic and its primary viewership is part of the millennial age. Millennials were being born at the height of Jackson's career and then most likely growing up on his music. Jenny Han is a Millennial. TSITP has already used a Jackson 5 song in the highest viewed and much loved episode, "Last Dance." With all of this in mind and thinking about the TSITP movie, I just can't wait to see. I was wondering what possible songs of Jackson's could be in the movie? The series spent a lot of money on music. Taylor Swift songs are obvious to be in the film. I am curious if there are any Michael Jackson fans that can speculate, wish, or suggest a song for the film. What would it be? Will You Be There is my personal favorite.

Okay,

I have to get this off my chest and apologies if someone has already posted this but I can't get over the subtleties in the conversation between Belly and Conrad after the unicorn flashback scene in 3x07.

So first off, Belly's face when she says, "Why?". At first I didn't understand the tone and I was a bit pissed off that she comes off as a bit standoffish but after a couple of rewatches, I realized that it comes across as part of a defense mechanism because Belly has gaslit herself into thinking that Conrad is a shit-stirrer especially because of the almost kiss in s1 and then the motel scene in s2.

But then seeing Conrad's confusion and his reasons, the first being "because it was important to you", there's a beat where Belly looks taken aback. And you realize just how warped her idea of love has become from her relationship with Jere where she doesn't take into account this aspect of love which is very agape, where we as the audience know that as much as Conrad is hurt and sad with the fact that he has to let Belly go, he is willing to make sure she's happy at the cost of his own.

And then the sledgehammer, "it's your wedding, you should have everything you've ever pictured". This is the first pebble of doubt that leads to the avalanche at the end of 3x08- because from 3x05 itself, with the wedding relocated to the club to then 3x06 with the first apartment hunting scene, everything has ironically gone downhill for Belly and Jere, where the fights are more, the doubt creeps in faster. Belly has been forcing herself into this alternate perspective but the evidence she uses for her reasons are all collapsing like a house of cards- her efficiency in remembering correctly, her state of mind that she still feels something for Conrad, the best parts of her relationship with Jere (the ESP thing failing or even the fact that their lovemaking was essentially a pity fuck), the fact that Jere is the more reliable partner.

IDK I love that it's this unintentional seed that has Belly attempt to push down the truth by taking a gummy but then it becomes the "worst" mistake ever because she finally breaks down from all the pressure, pain, paranoia and delusions with a single "I only ever pictured Conrad."

What do you guys think? What other subtleties did you like about this scene?

P.S. Jere's look back in this scene made me think irrationally that dipping and kissing Belly was a ploy to make Conrad jealous (an aspect of his shitty making Conrad realize he's lost agenda which essentially made him the idiot in the long haul), something also from the book during the rehearsal dinner that Book Belly clocked.

I feel like his cheating could be a little justified considering Belly did emotionally cheat on Jeremiah with Conrad at that time. Moreover she even chose to lie about it.

EDIT: okay now I get it guys, chill

Helloooo, Warning: Long text!! Please don't kill me in the name of science! 🙃

I wanted to address this privacy issue raised by the production of TSITP and subsequently intensified by some fans. I want to make it clear that privacy must be respected. That's not even up for discussion. But I really think it's important to differentiate between a real invasion of privacy and simply fans recording something public from a distance, without causing disruption, interrupting filming, harassment, or stalking.

Many of these images circulating are literally photos taken from afar, in open spaces, without direct contact with the cast. Logically, there are limits, and they must be respected. If someone invades space, stalks, harasses, or disrupts filming, that's a completely different story. And honestly? This happens with practically every popular series or film; there have always been fans attending filming, recording moments of the cast together, commenting on behind-the-scenes events, etc.

So what I'm trying to understand isss: why does this snowball so badly with the cast of The Summer I Turned Pretty? Because in other productions, this is usually treated as something relatively normal within the fandom, but here any photo becomes a huge intrigue, a disproportionate discussion. It's simply an exaggeration to turn harmless fan recordings into something almost absurd, almost criminal. In the end, it's precisely the fans who keep the story alive, they are the ones who generate engagement, comments, theories, dissemination, audience, and make a production remain relevant between seasons and now even as a film.

So it's kind of strange to see such an intense reaction to things that, in other giant productions, are usually treated with much more naturalness. And one thing I find curious about all this is that, before the production itself started reinforcing this issue of "total privacy" so much, this level of mass surveillance within the fandom wasn't seen. At least not in such an intense way. Now it seems that a portion of the people have become a kind of constant monitor of what can or cannot be posted, what "leaked," what is allowed to be commented on, who recorded what, as if any image were automatically something very serious.