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Does anyone else find it strange that, despite Democratic senators having comparable access to intelligence and national-security circles, essentially none are publicly making the extraordinary UAP claims we're hearing from the Grusch/Elizondo/right-wing congressional orbit? (reptilians, known alien species, specific UFO types, methods, crash-retrieval programs, etc)

Democrats have been involved in UAP investigations and disclosure efforts for years. So why is the willingness to make these extraordinary claims so heavily concentrated among a relatively small group of former intelligence/military figures and Republican representatives?

If this really is classified information being revealed, why are people able to discuss it so freely on podcasts? And if it isn't actually classified, why aren't other officials with comparable access corroborating these claims?

The partisan asymmetry doesn't prove the claims are false, but it absolutely makes me question the “disclosure” narrative.

If we're supposedly dealing with the biggest revelation in human history, the lack of corroboration from the other side of the political and intelligence establishment is difficult to explain.

I'm not buying it.

Former UAP Task Force member David Grusch claimed on Joe Rogan's podcast that classified files document what \looks and smells like conflict' between non-human species in our skies. When Rogan asked if it was 'grays vs reptilians,' Grusch surprisingly agreed it could be.

Grusch still admits he hasn't personally seen craft or alien bodies, relying entirely on top-secret files and second-hand accounts. With the Pentagon completely denying these claims, do you think Grusch is revealing the truth, or is he destroying his own credibility with stories like this?

Blue sky, no clouds, mid afternoon. I heard jet engines so I looked up. It was a 737. I saw it and the contrail that dissipated seconds after it left the engines. Suddenly the plane disappeared. It was as if a giant invisible eraser traveling in the opposite direction erased it from the sky. I kept looking for it but it was gone. No plane. No contrail. No sound. Did it glitch out of this reality? Did it enter a portal? Don't know what happened.

"Under the published terms, at least two of three organisations , NASA, the National Science Foundation and the American Astronomical Society must affirm by 31 December 2030 that extraterrestrial intelligence has been discovered, including through an extraterrestrial technological object or alien biological life found on Earth."

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I'll take that bet. What odds are you offering Shermernator?

At this point Half Life 3 will come before aliens.

A friend of a friend of a friend's uncles former roommate needs to map something like a spin-phonon coupling and controlled atomic spin state of a certain exotic matter directly onto the space-time itself and basically treat the local quantum vacuum substrate as a dynamic, nonlinear, non-newtonian fluidic medium to "swim" or "fall" through it using plasma as a boundary-layer.. or something idk. They may or may not need a magnetoplasmadynamic resonating cavity that may or may not be disc-shaped in order to organize plasma currents, magnetic helicity, and electromagnetic stress into highly coherent toroidal and poloidal field structures respectively. Then, they may or may not need to get someome thats super duper psychic that can create a literal intentional asymmetry in the stress-energy distribution around the craft so that they may or may not be able to get off this planet.

Does anyones mom have access to 10 gallons of liquid helium 3 that we can use for a fusion reactor? ...asking for a friend

We are in October 2026 and still nothing. Where is this guys so called proof/claims? Tired like the rest of the general census. Nothing ever changes.

In his interview with Rogan , David says he recorded another interview that's not out yet.

He says it at 1:00:30, and he's talking about Tom DeLonge and General McCaslin saying there are a lot of connections to Greek Gods and NHI.

The Greek God topic makes me think it's Jesse Michaels as hes obsessed with the mythology but I kinda hope it's A52/Chris Ramsey.

Of course, I can’t prove this, but Dave Grusch’s Rogan interview looked phony to me. It's as if Rogan were willingly setting him up to reveal his UFO high strangeness to debunk his own case; he only challenged this high-strangeness ufology—something Grusch didn’t testify to in Congress—over that irrelevant alpha-dog episode. Sure, it looked creepy, but it is irrelevant to the utter weirdness of Grusch’s ufology, which is not remotely provable!

What I’m saying is they both willingly took part in this interview, with the object being Grusch’s undermining disclosure for good.

If or when he goes back to Congress, they will question him about all his Rogan interview claims.

And just imagine what the Congressional members who gutted the UAPDA will say. He's given them a sledgehammer to keep gutting the UAPDA.

If folks don’t think this was and is all planned out, then they aren’t too aware of the USG intelligence agencies' history.

I mean, it was hard enough to prove the USG has or had a few dead aliens and crashed and intact saucers. But now Grusch has raised the bar to the impossible: Reptilian versus grey wars, Reptilian murder of USG military personnel, which sounds so similar to the high strangeness ufology of Phil Shneider and many other high strangeness believers.

Personally, I have no problem with high-strangeness ufology; everyone has the right to believe such things or not, and I myself have beliefs along these lines, but the mainstream US Congress, the more scientific establishment, and the general public probably won't accept it.

Im kind of shocked people still has high regards for whistleblowers that end up having a place in public discussion, by logic if they were legit and a threat to the system, military complex and govt, they would already being take care of, besides that the times elizondo has being caught lying make me have serious doubts about the ufo community ctritical thinking skills

But theres a few things i like to discuss about grusch and that can be applied to others.

1. Has grusch ever rejected an stablished ufo theory? Because i saw he talks about lizards inside tic tacs, uderwater bases, plasma beings, war between alien races, everything seems to be true, if the guy cant say what isnt true about ufos, that by simple logic, AND by the fact that dissinformation campaings have been a crticial part of the phenomena (that is one fact no one can dismiss), then hes no stating any truth, hes just confirming tales of others, without evidence btw.

2. On the other side, does he bring any new info about them, in terms of explanation of what they are, or just variations of old/present theories

3. Whats the level of economic benefit hes getting from all this?, elizondo releases books of just bs and use his fame to seel them to people

4. Does he provides dates for event that never came true and then comes up with new ones?, i mean come on, thats when i lost all respect for bledsoe

All this confirms to me that ufo are most likely a physical event for which we have no psychological, scientific framework and even language to adress, identify or process, is an ever morphing presence that takes the shape of the witness and we may need an evolutionary brink to understand, all else are scammers trying to profit and govt trying to control the narrative of something truly unknown

Ok so for context back in January of 2023 at around 1-2am in Florida I saw a UFO with two of my buddies for about 30 seconds. We were driving back to my place and as we turned onto my street I spotted it floating in the sky above and a bit ahead of us, but it was close enough that it was indistinguishable from anything else that could be used to explain it. I’ve looked at so many different things that could be an alternative explanation, but none have matched.

I saw very clearly that it was shaped mostly like a flying saucer how you’d expect, but on the bottom on the left and right sides it sort of curved down almost like a claw shape, but more rounded. The top of it was also a bit more rounded and less flat than you’d expect, at least from my memory. The entire thing seemed to be made out of the same material, which I didn’t recognize personally but it was an orange-ish beige-ish color and sorta appeared less like cold metal and more like an organic material if that makes sense. It didn’t make any noise from what I could tell and just sat there floating still in the air. I didn’t see any lights on it but it was lit in the sky, but at least at the time I interpreted that as the moonlight reflecting off of it. We sat and stared at it for a bit until I said “what the fuck is that?”, and a few seconds after I said that it disappeared, like it was a layer in photoshop that you turned the opacity down to 0%.

I say all this because unfortunately my phone was in my shitty cheap phone stand for the gps when this happened and my buddy was driving, and I knew if I reached over to my phone to grab it from the passenger seat it would’ve fallen down and I didn’t want to look away, so I didn’t get a picture. At the time if you had asked me prior to this if I believed in UFOs I’d say that I thought aliens were probably real but nowhere near our planet. So, when this happened, I was hoping that maybe I could dig through all the bullshit people report and see if I could find a match, considering I was skeptical of that stuff before I assumed there were some true reports mixed in.

But I haven’t found a single matching image or report. People like Grusch seemed like they might be moving things in the right direction, but lately it just seems like he’s talking out his ass. So I’m frustrated. It really annoys me that I can say for certain that I know there is something else here in some form, but we’re just not allowed to know about it. It feels like we’re missing out on things that will inevitably be part of human history.

I tried to post this on r/ufos but I guess they have weird rules about posting sightings and I already reported it to NUFORC a lil bit ago so I don’t really care to do all that so hopefully this is the right place for it, I was just hoping to start a discussion and see if anyone has experienced something similar or relates in general.