Hi all. Not a provocation, just an important question for the insider. Maybe this post gives you space to once more highlight your abilities and level of knowledge around a deep topic, brothers and sisters.
Notice: I don't sell spellwork.
Hello fellow shufflers, today I want to talk about the most common and basic error in card interpretation. I’m talking about exchanging information for advice regarding it.
Let’s take an example. I’ve got a fresh one from this morning.
Question: What kind of energy/attitude will I find from them if I contact them?
Answer: King of Swords.
Interpretation by the reader: I have to stay calm and logical if I reach out.
Now, there is some logic breaking down here. You ask about another person’s reaction, but then refer the message to yourself as advice.
Notice also that, in many similar cases, the reader who gets a King is a woman, and the person they are reading about is a man. So, in that case, referring the King to themselves would be a double error: not recognizing that court cards are usually other persons, who very often, though not always, keep their sex/gender in the cards representing them. You had every reason to think the King was the man and not you, and missed it anyway. But let’s go on.
Can you see where the fault lies? You ask me something about X, but when I give you information about X, you fail to connect it to X and refer it to what you should do about it.
It’s like asking tarot whether your house is safe, and then, after seeing cards of burglars, advising you to rob yourself.
When you proceed like this, you fail to place the information you retrieved in the logical box where it belongs. Maybe the information is even correct, but this error of attribution makes your reading go awry, and therefore useless.
It helps to remember what all long-time cartomancers say:
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Where does this very common error come from?
I think it comes from tarology.
Now, don’t misunderstand me. Tarology is essential to any complete tarot reader.
Tarology and cartomancy are the two legs of tarot reading: one is depth of knowledge, the other is fluidity of processing. Take one of them away and your readings will be lame. Or, to paraphrase old Kant:
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I’m technically a tarologist as well, if you allow me, so I say all this very humbly and with no intent to provoke or divide.
The current war between cartomancers and tarologists should not exist at all.
Although, to be honest, the controversy began when the learned and snobbish tarologists started to despise the supposedly ignorant and folk cartomancers. While many pure tarologists can tell you the universe about a card, they can fail to connect it with another one in order to read a simple concrete message. Cartomancers, instead, even if they stopped at the sixth year of school and only properly speak their dialect, can tell you how much hair you’ve got between your buttocks, and even when precisely you will lose it.
(Sorry, I had to say it somewhere. We all need a lot of modesty, guys, when approaching any field of knowledge, especially those we know nothing about.)
So, I was saying, this big misunderstanding has been, unwillingly, brought forth by tarology. Why? Because in tarological readings you usually proceed like this: you have a spread with single cards in different positions, each with a different assigned role, meaning, or area of inquiry, and so you get used to examining each card in great depth within its own sphere, considering the forces it expresses, its psychological significance, its potential for development, etc.
And so, in this regard, when you open any handbook on tarot written from a tarological or psychological standpoint, you usually find that the discussion of every card also includes some consideration of its weak aspects, or shadow sides, and how to overcome them, all of course in a useful and empowering evolutionary perspective.
That is exactly where this error is born.
In the minds of many new readers, every card contains the solution to the problem or shadow side it has. And this is not wrong in itself, but the issue arises when these readers decontextualize this tarological way of reading, the only one they know, maybe, and apply it to a common, plainly cartomantic reading, and then start to confuse the description of a problem with what they should do about it. Hence, a big short circuit that is sending thousands of beginners astray, sadly.
Again: use your logic and you won’t lose yourself.
Have you got some precise meaning for your cards? Take them literally and apply them exactly to what you asked, as you would normally do in your own language.
For example:
- Will I pass my examination? Answer: Tower. Tower means failure here. The cards are telling you that you won’t do it, and not that you have to strip yourself of your ordinary consciousness to reach a higher level.
- How is my boyfriend toward me? Answer: Moon. Meaning: deception, confusion, lies, concealment, hidden moods. The cards are saying your boyfriend is deceptive toward you, not that you should deceive him. And (this example was tricky, I know) even less that you should show him your feminine side more... but that’s another long discourse.
One final piece of advice to overcome this short circuit if you find yourself in it.
If you ever need advice on the situation, just draw other separate cards. This will help you separate concepts and remain clear.
Trying to deduce advice from the same cards that showed you the problem can be confusing. In a simplified problematic context, if something is too big we know we have to make it smaller, or if something is too far we of course think we have to move it nearer. These are simple problems, though; they run between two opposite concepts.
But how can you find the opposite of a tarot card? Difficult to say, since tarot has 78 different sides, not only two.
To be short: the problem shown in your cards could be too complex to be resolved by the simple mental operation of reversal. And also, the best solution to your problem may not be its mere inversion, but something totally different that you may not even consider. Let me give an example of this.
Question: How is our relationship?
Answer: Lovers reversed.
Meaning: Your relationship is based on pleasure and physicality, not on solid feelings.
What to do about it? You would be tempted to put those Lovers upright and tell yourself you must start building feelings (...LOL.) But instead of making deductions, you can wisely ask your deck again and pull other cards. And maybe, things can even go like this:
- Deck, what should I do with this relationship?
- Three of Swords, my dear. Dump them.
Good shuffling, my fellows.
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Hello fellow readers, today I want to talk about a widespread technique among beginners, and I also want to tell you how much it is unfit for the nature of tarot and thus basically misleading, and also what to do to go beyond it and become a more refined reader. I’m here talking about yes-or-no type of readings.
Y/N looks to be very appealing: you pull one single card, which you already decided means yes or no, and that’s your answer. Easy, no...? No, indeed. Not at all. It creates confusion and, when feedback from the real events is available, it often proves to give wrong answers. Let me do some examples based on what I read around every day.
Question: - Is my girlfriend leaving me? Answer: the Tower.
Interpretation: Tower is a no, so, well, nooo, we’re staying together.
What happens later: they break up from one day to the other, and then blame tarot for lying.
Or another example, question: - Will my boss go against me regarding my promotion? Answer: the Queen of Swords.
Interpretation: The QoS, of course, is a big no, so my boss won’t obstruct me in any way.
What happens later: the boss, who also happens to be a woman like the harsh Queen herself, not only doesn’t promote them, but sends them to work in a basement. And then they start to doubt tarot.
Now, those two examples are not real, I willfully exaggerated them to magnify the problem.
Did you notice that what happened later was not a yes or no, but what the cards factually showed?
The couple broke up, even abruptly, and, in fact, the Tower is the best card to show a sudden breakup.
The worker got not only obstructed, but even mobbed by the female boss, and, IN FACT, the only card they picked was the most bad-tempered, hostile and evil female figure in the deck.
Tarot, actually, answered very well and impeccably, because it just showed what happened later. Sadly, the reader didn’t get the message, because they were too busy cramming what they saw into the labels of yes or no.
From this, we can start to see one important thing:
Tarot speaks in concrete terms
It uses, so to say, the language of things, and not mere adverbs. Tarot’s language is substantive. Tarot shows the what, the how, the whom and the why, basically, and does this because, being made of images/concepts, these resemble, by analogy, what is or happens out there – the core of the mechanism of divination, if you allow me.
You cannot tie tarot’s images/concepts to a yes or no, because the analogy between what tarot shows and what exists out there somewhere will always be stronger than any forced and arbitrary correspondence between the cards and the two adverbs yes and no.
There are some exceptions to this: some cards, like Death or the 5 of Swords, can sometimes act as a negation, or just like the boolean operator NOT. But this can happen when you have a line of cards, not when you only pull one. And here we arrive at a second big argument against Y/N readings, usually done with a single card:
Reading a single card in itself can be highly deceitful
These are the best explanations I’ve come up with until today against the use of single cards:
Single cards are often not informative and leave you in ambiguity. You pull one card, you cannot pin its meaning down precisely (Devil, anybody here?) so you pull a clarifier, then a clarifier of the clarifier, until some 10th level of a card unto another. Unpractical and illogical, to say the least. You should expand your technical abilities and overcome the bottleneck if you find yourself in this situation.
If you do tableaus, you should have noticed that concepts repeat, echo and multiply themselves across many cards, like waves of meaning that confirm and enrich each other. Even only three cards have nuances that get confirmed through all the cards, and also make your interpretation take one path or another. Single-card readings, of course, like my first two examples, can be factually right, but besides missing a lot of the story, they can nonetheless be deceiving in themselves. What if the Queen of Swords was not the boss herself, but another woman in the org chart? What if the couple didn’t break up because of quarrelling, but because of… a natural calamity I don’t want to name that makes buildings collapse?
To recap: Y/N readings can lead you astray very fast, both because translating tarot into yes or no is a conceptual stretch, and because reading a single card is deceitful in itself. Now, let’s see:
How to go beyond the practice of yes or no and frame questions better
We said that tarot shows the what, how, whom and why of a situation. Therefore the best thing to do is to let the whole picture show itself fully and without constrictions.
Do we want to know about a situation or an issue? Let the whole situation emerge through the cards.
Don’t ask “Will we break up, yes or no?” but rather: “What will happen between us?”
You will see that the cards will give you something much richer than Y/N: they will tell you the whole dynamic, the emotions that will arise, how each person relates to the other, the basic attitudes, even timing if you are able to read it.
Don’t ask “Will my boss promote me?” but rather ask “What will happen with my desired promotion?” You could, for example, see that there are different persons interfering with the decision, and also many things that will unfold, for the worst or for the better.
Of course, at times you will be baffled by unclear answers, and will start to yell, “Yes, my deck, but what happens at the end? Can I know it?” and then you’ll be tempted to go back to Y/N. Remember, you can always pull a clarifier or ask new questions in this case, or even re-frame the question anew, concentrating strongly on your need to have a clear message.
By the way, does it happen from time to time that tarot leaves you defeated? Welcome to the club, my friend. You’re learning something non-ordinary and of course it must be an extraordinary fight - with your full being, your own wits included. Nothing is ever granted, in learning to read tarot. It is a climb. To be wrong is normal, the important thing is not leaving all your errors sitting there and repeating themselves forever, but to secure one step after another. That’s progress: not falling down again into your beginner’s mistakes.
Remember, answers can go very well beyond the dual categorization of Y/N. Sometimes things can be slow but progressing, at other times they can be just imaginary, at other times they look like a yes but are a no by nature… who knows? Reality is so much more complex than light switches, which only have 0/1…
So, be more intelligent than a light switch. Move beyond the binary Y/N forever and go to the next step in reading tarot.
This is a fantastic publication I usually find at the newspapers kiosk here in Italy. Lo Scarabeo publishes promotional copies of its decks: sometimes it's only the majors (like in this case), some other it's the whole deck. Unluckily, cards are not really resistant, they are just for display or study and surely not for prolonged use. The booklet is indeed interesting... check it out if you are a beginner and can get it. I really like the golden finishing. Author is Giulia F. Massaglia.
From "Pranic Psychotherapy" by the great Master Kok Sui Choa. The best explanation I've found about these mechanisms. Integrating the answer I previously gave to Euphoric-Ease7950's post. Hope it's useful to you all. Sensitivity without protection can easily go out of hand...
EDIT: protective webs are energetic screens around the chakras.
Yes, definitely.
He has a lot of feminine sides, that's why all those ladies. Also, he came out as the Juggler reversed because he's shy and has issues to disclose his interiority.
I think I'm the woman OF his life, buddies.
Hello, guys! This is a short lesson to highlight a way of reading cards that I spot anywhere on social media, and that you should definitely move beyond as soon as possible.
I’m talking about those readings where the many cards of a spread are not read organically in their flow, but taken and considered individually. You can recognize those interpretations immediately: they usually look like bullet lists.
I want to show you how this approach can lead you to give disjointed, inconsistent, and ultimately pointless readings. Not to mention their accuracy.
All right, let’s take the tale of Little Red Riding Hood. Now imagine that, instead of telling you the usual story, I go like this:
...got it?
Now, I have the greatest understanding for all those who commit this error in very good faith. You may be a beginner, or someone who didn't have the chance to deepen your study of tarot. So I really hope this is a call to break out of the cave that commercial mainstream has taught you to see as the only possible path.
Real cartomancy is reading about life. It’s not explaining one card at a time, like museum guides do with paintings.
Much less understanding, I’ve to say,I have for those self-proclaimed professionals, maybe even with many declared years of experience, who get paid by you to return such things... In that case, if I were you my fellows, I’d ask for a refund straight away. They are not professionals at all, and they know it. They sell themselves as university professors when they haven’t even finished primary school.
In the picture, you can see a reconstruction of the moment when the wolf meets Little Red Riding Hood in the forest and, pretending to be her friend, deceives her so that he can easily devour her later.
BIG EDIT, because I'm being misunderstood a lot (or better, misread a lot): of course you can explain cards one by one, and even more surely you have to analyze them one by one. I'm not criticizing this. Read my example again: what would you understand of the original story if you didn't know it, and only got my above list and no more? A plain nothing. Similarly, as I've explained in the comments abundantly, there are readers who do exactly the same, and sell it to you as an expert service. I repeat: they are elementary school children disguised as professors.
This said, I've nothing against beginners *as such* (I've met brilliant ones) nor I'm saying that a style is better than another; even less that I'm the chosen one by the tarot god himself. I'm just saying this: next time you get a reading that sounds like my example above, avoid the reader and tell anybody else to do the same, because doing what I've described in my example is not a reading that can be called so.
Hi guys, I'm a baby witch and I've done my first spell on a practitioner with 20+ years of experience. No real reason for it, but I do whateverI want, so, f*ck it. I even don't sense energy, so everything is OK if I don't feel anything contrary I guess. And, also, the spell jar I've used stinks very much, so I'm sure I'm way more powerful than that b*tch.
I've found this spell on witches & black kitties website.
During the spell, which I had to do in my granma's toilet (I'm a toilet witch) my candles, whoa, started to smoke black very thickly, until the end of the 6 minutes ritual! At a certain point I've smelled a terrible stench, which was not the same of my jar btw but something else. It was then that I've realized I was working soo well! Also, my ears started to whistle and they haven't stopped until one hour later. My head is still empty and buzzing, and I cannot walk straight, but hey, all those incredible supernatural signs I've never experienced...! I just think my spell worked greatly and she's going to die tomorrow morning 🤓🤟
Hello, Tarot Ladies and Gentlemen!
This is a guide to the first basic step you need to start reading tarot: learning cards’ meanings one by one. Although it is a fundamental step, I see many beginners who don’t take it seriously: maybe when they start reading they leave the whole task to a gust of intuition, or they hope that if a card is not really clear, placing many more cards nearby it, or a pile of clarifiers above and under it, will suffice to fill and amend the empty spot of significance.
Be sincere: I know you do it. I simply know because at the beginning I did the same — eh, lol. That was a serious error I later understood I had to repair at all costs. A tarot reading is like a building, and a solid system of cards’ meanings is its foundations. If you want a building that reaches toward the sky, you need solid foundations — intuition is not one, as it is variable, depends on the moment, and is not exactly replicable every time.
Leaving the mastery of your readings to intuition alone basically means leaving them to chance, and therefore remaining unreliable.
Please understand me: I’m not saying intuition has no value — quite the opposite; it is a great skill every reader must have. I’m just saying intuition works best when used over a solid base of knowledge, and that it will then expand in many fruitful and unexpected directions.
Now, let’s try to break down the necessary passages to acquire and absorb a card’s meaning.
1. Familiarize with your cards
This can sound a bit obvious, but the relationship to your physical deck has its important part. The very first step to master your deck is to know what it contains! Take your cards, stare at them one by one, or also lay them all down on a big table and watch them unfold their geometrical rhythm. Absorb their images and colors into your deep memory. You will form a strong mental relationship with both the images themselves, wherever else you happen to see them, and you will also energetically charge your deck, which, if you go after strange things like me, it’s not really a detail.
2. Find a reliable system of meanings to follow and stick with
Are you new to tarot and solely relying on your deck’s booklet? That could be a terrible idea.
Now, there surely are well-authored decks with very cured booklets, but this is definitely not always the case. In many instances, the booklet that comes with a commercial deck is a careless copy-and-paste from the worst tarot websites, and, sadly, that’s one of the biggest things that can throw your whole practice into the nettles.
Know that books on tarot have been published since the late 18th century — that’s about 250 years of written knowledge. I don’t want to scare you, so let me break the process down with a few simple directions.
If you use a RWS deck, it’s mandatory for you to learn what Waite – the W of the acronym and creator of the deck – wrote about it in his work “The pictorial key to the Tarot,” a text now in the public domain and fully available online.
If you use a Marseille deck (TdM) there are many useful sources: older occultists (French writers above all) and many respected contemporary authors. Avoid the cheap “the only book you need” pamphlets sold online for a couple of euros, PLEASE. You’re building some high level knowledge and extraordinary skills. They are really worth to spend some more coins than that.
Very important thing, whether you use one deck or the other: some historical study of tarot’s Italian origins and historical context will enrich your understanding and give you valuable insights.
Once you find a system suited to your kind of deck, you must stick with it, especially at the beginning. It is possible that you will deepen your knowledge of tarot and change your system or calibrate it many times as new notions arrive, but in this first phase what you need is solid ground, not uncertainty. One, reliable map to move your first steps. You will benefit of certainty much more than vagueness in this initial phase.
3. Make sure your system is truly adequate to represent the whole universe
Another tip for testing the goodness of your meanings: get sure they’re not confined to the psychological. No guys, this is not gatekeeping. It is a very important point to prevent all your future practice from being compromised.
You do tarot readings to understand the world. Both the one inside you, and outside you. If your meanings consist only of an introspective vocabulary, your cards won’t be able to describe real life in its entirety. We are not self-sufficient, closed bubbles. Even psychology agrees.
When you ask cards about something, yes, even about the most introspective issue, it’s absolutely possible they will show other persons, facts, actions and various dynamics that somehow play into the matter. If your cards only speak of emotions and personality parts, you can be seriously missing some core part of the message. Beside also the great possibility that your readings come out plainly wrong.
Let me do a clear example: you ask what’s wrong with the management of your small company. The cards point to your dishonest partner who is sabotaging you and emptying the company's coffers. But, thanks to your smurfs tarot deck’s booklet, , you read the cards (as best you can) as your own guilt-ridden, repressed relationship with money. This does not make you a good card reader at all, know that. And less than least solve your problems.
4. Make sure your meanings don't remain only intellectual, but are alive
→ Learn the real “taste” of the cards. ←
The lived experiences, what happens, and events are never merely dry intellectual facts . They have the colour of experienced qualities, that is, a lively emotional connotation.
Death and Hermit in a relationship reading can both variously signal a breakup, but they mean two very different ways of breaking up. The Hermit wisely considers the situation and uses all his emotional control to make a discreet and civil step back. Death, by contrast, is a violent and bitter breakup full of hatred instead – even when that hatred is hidden or one person is ghosting the other. Do you feel the difference? Those two scenarios give tell opposite stories, even if the outcome is the same. Those feelings bring you to are an important part of what cards want to tell you. Follow this suggestion, and you will soon arrive to hear from your readees that you “described it all like a movie.” Trust me.
So, how do we move beyond conceptual descriptions and acquire the lived quality of the cards? We must relate them to the reality they represent. There are no shortcuts here, you need practice for this. Good feedback comes from noting your cards and later comparing them with what actually happened. The quickest way to do this is the card-of-the-day practice (see par. n. 8).
5. Some Tarot and NLP...
Find a concise description for each card—one that, when you’re reading, instantly recalls everything you know about it. Create a sensorial depiction of that label whenever you can.
Yes, I know this sounds a bit boastful, but it isn’t: you really can do it. Let me give an example: the Knight of Coins/Pentacles. In my system he means a great worker and a helper. I imagine him as a good, very resolute boy who is always trotting about and keeping busy. You might ask: is he a positive person? I’d answer in half a second: yes, he’s a helper. Is he practical? For sure, he works a lot. Is he a still figure? Not at all, he’s trotting on a horse. Does he hide himself? Surely not, he’s active and straightforward. Is he proactive? Absolutely. Is he poor? Definitely not. Is he confused? Not at all. And so on.
You see, a single image or sensation can encode a great number of details and even produce new elements as you need them that you’ve never thought of before. The more correct information you can extract, the more fluid and detailed your readings will be when you read cards together, and the easier it will be to retrieve specific details.
6. Make every card memorable by relating it to a mood, an episode or a person in your life
This is another great expedient to tie and enliven your cards through your mnemonic web of connections: find something you’ve lived and experienced that correctly represents each card.
The Empress won’t be just a powerful, slightly impulsive woman anymore if you relate her to the vibrant, sweet, luminous, loving figure of a young mother you’ve met or been.
The Pope won’t be merely the chorus of tradition and marriage if you connect him to the sage master who changed your life.
In this way cards become living, vibrant figures of energy, not silhouettes or meaningless catchphrases. And when you’ll read for someone else, you will know what they mean for your readees as well.
7. Compare each card with the others
You can compare every Minor Arcana card with all the other cards in its suit, with other cards of the same rank, or with any of the other 77 cards in the deck.
When you do this, use every possible disposition: shuffle the order of comparison, and also work with reversals: apply reversals to the first card only, then to the second only, and then to both.
Do some brain-stretching: compare a card with those expressing similar concepts (for example, Death with the 5 of Swords reversed, or the 4 of Swords with the Hanged Man). Also look for the differences between them — sometimes those distinctions are very subtle.
8. The card of the day, and the card of the moment
The card of the day is the best practice to learn quickly and to get fast, verifiable feedback. Write your first interpretation down or otherwise remember it. Revisit it before you go to sleep or at the end of the day (I keep a deck specifically for the card of the day and leave it face down with the drawn card on the bottom.)
The “card of the moment” is probably new to you; it’s simply a reminder to carry your deck and pull cards about anything, anytime, even about silly things. Remember: experience comes from the number of times you’ve flipped cards, not from the number of books you’ve read (although books necessarily multiply the value of practice.) In short: read cards as often as you can. The more you do it, the sooner you’ll see that oddities and apparent contradictions are not mistakes but part of how the tarot normally expresses itself. So if you want to learn the tarot’s language, speak to it as much as possible as well as learn its grammar.
9. Journaling
The best tarot book is your own.
Write everything down, or save everything to the cloud, it doesn’t matter, but be sure to leave a trace of all your practice. Your trials and errors will be your best teachers and an enormous well of information on what you did and went through. This is especially true if you are a spiritual practitioner.
10. NEVER confuse what a card says with advice on what to do - problems cannot be their own solutions
This is one of the most basic logical errors you can make, and the direst one, because it can completely wreck the structure of your reading and often lead you to say exactly the opposite of what you should.
Where does this error come from? From applying tarological methods everywhere, indiscriminately. Tarology is a deep, valuable discipline — but using it mindlessly is ruining whole generations of readers. Tarology is exploratory: it proceeds by expanding your reflection on single cards, and within that breadth you will naturally include deep considerations about a card’s shadow side and, eventually, advice on how to counteract a problem. That is masterful work, and you must learn how to do it. But none of that works on a three-card spread for “Will I pass the next exam?” or “Will I get the job?”
Let me give an example to highlight the logical flaw that wrecks many beginner readings.
A readee asks: “What’s actually wrong in my rapport with colleagues?” and you draw the 3 of Cups.
Meaning of the card: joy, happiness, pleasure, proximity, partying together, celebrating. And you start replying: “You should be more friendly and cheerful, blah blah blah…”
Now this 3 of Cups, as requested by your question, explains why your relationships with everyone at the office are bad. This card depicts the problem itself, not its solution. Here the cards are saying that being overly friendly and cheerful may just be the problem itself, rather than the remedy. Yes, the example is quite sneaky; since this card is positive and happy, it can push you into the trap even more. Notice how a wrong reading made you conclude the opposite of what the cards intended. My main advice: if you need to give guidance, pull additional cards. Don’t invent advice or infer it from cards that are speaking about something else.
Hope this script has helped you a little bit to proceed into your tarot journey.
Hello you all. I will try to take this post to the essential, since I've made another one some days ago that probably was deleted for being too long. Hope this one stays, because I just wanted to warn people of a very incorrect practice they are surely unaware of.
r/inclusivetarot and r/tarots are run by the very same people, and they are profiting from you through a system of multiple accounts.
About inclusivetarot: the mod team is full of alts. Do you remember that Valerio Lundini, “the Pope of Rome”? An Italian guy who is also a web/game developer. Then, there has been another mod, u/DesignerCool221. He’s also into the IT field, and he is Italian too. Then, one month ago, this new mod, u/soulishere1, arrives. Guess what...? He is a web/game developer too. 3 guys, all into tarot, all also into IT, and, curiously, all mods of the same still relatively new and small community...
Strange, isn't it? Three persons or rather the same one…? Notice that the mods list goes between public and private very often - let’s say, every time there is some drama happening there - so you will need a little research on usernames to verify this. I’m stopping here at the evidence I have, but if you hang out there, you could notice there are other different accounts who comment with the same style and same vibe, and really sounds to be the same person as well.
Why alt-accounts, you will wonder? Well, this is just a clever commercial move. When you have many alt-accounts, there are more possibilities that the same client asks you do to the same reading again. Very simple. They change their speech style, they change their deck, and the poor client never realizes he’s paying the same persons again and again for the very same reading. And of course, with every new reading they will look to be better readers, since they take advantage of the infos the client already told them…
Now, u/BIGepidural who just took control of r/tarots. I realized he's very likely the same person. How do I know it? Well, now it's not my intention to go personal or do my personal apology, as these guys really like to build up defamatory campaigns against other readers and competitor subs (many ones, me included.) If you've followed all the story, and have been able to read their posts which they delete after some days, you will realize he's telling the very same arguments with the same words... Make your own opinion, then.
Don't get fooled. Real accounts have a history and a personality, and they don't need to split. You can realize who a reader or speller is by looking up at what they say and do around, if you want a genuine idea of their level. Maybe this can be a useful hint for you not to fall prey of greedy clones. Be careful guys.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tarots/comments/1t15imx/alert_re_reader_plz_read_asap/
Look at this... Same defamation campaign goin on at my damage. No buddies, I'm still here, because the only one thing I've threatened anybody of is to proceed legally. Which I'm definitely doing BTW.
Remember: why do they multiply themselves? Because they can do the same reading again and again to the same client. I've provided evidence of this on my later post. They always failed to provide evidence of what they are telling about me, instead... except vague 3rd person screenshots that anybody could have written.
Let's see who still remain at the end of the game.
Hello you all! I'm Lea, a true Italian professional cartomancer with many years of work on psychic lines and privately. I read tarot the old style: just you, me and my deck.
No AI, no generic fluff, nor prerecorded nonsense at all: my readings are real, and they answer to your questions. Ask me anything.
Since I'm back on Reddit, for all this week all kind of readings are at 10 €.
My only shop is at ko-fi.com/leacartomancer.
The way of reading I prefer is by far through live written chat, as tradition goes, but since our time zones can be much different, I can offer you written reports to be integrated with the needed follow up. I will always send you a picture of my cards and a clear explanation of what I see.
I also do Tarot mentoring.
Please always contact me through DM before proceeding or for any eventual question. Thank you!
(No health/pregnancies - payment is always in advance)
Hello you all! I'm Lea, a true Italian professional cartomancer with many years of work on psychic lines and privately. I read tarot the old style: just you, me and my deck.
No AI, no generic fluff, nor prerecorded nonsense at all: my readings are real, and they answer to your questions. Ask me anything.
Since I'm back on Reddit, for all this week all kind of readings are at 10 €.
My only shop is at ko-fi.com/leacartomancer.
The way of reading I prefer is by far through live written chat, as tradition goes, but since our time zones can be much different, I can offer you written reports to be integrated with the needed follow up. I will always send you a picture of my cards and a clear explanation of what I see.
I also do Tarot mentoring.
Please always contact me through DM before proceeding or for any eventual question. Thank you!
(No health/pregnancies - payment is always in advance)
The High Priestess is a figure that occultists often equate with Isis. In the Conver deck, one can see that her collar is fastened with an explicitly phallic shape: the phallus is a central element in the myth of the goddess Isis.
Now, when turning the card upside down, I realized there seem to be two lit torches in the veil surrounding her head. Torches, too, are an important element in the cult of Isis: they were used in her nocturnal processions (for example, in the Navigium Isidis on March 5th) to symbolize the passage of Osiris from death to rebirth. Coincidence? Pareidolia?
If you build defamatory campaigns against other readers, continue to publish their private chat without blurring names, harass them with a full team of collaborators, and even blackmail them saying you have all their data... well, at a certain point even Reddit takes action.
Just wanted to update you, in case today you don't find that sub alive anymore. Cheers, guys.
Astrology and Tarot: many different systems of correspondences and no unanimity about them between authors. So, well, I tried to compose my own. Please, be benevolent with me as I’m not really into astrology. I know very well what I’m saying here is incomplete and may be wrong, so I encourage the experts in both fields to correct it and enrich the discussion.
So, Majors as a portable device for astrological divination. Centuries before our modern oracle decks. Maybe we all already had an astro-oracle hidden in our tarot deck and we didn’t realize it...
Consider that Tarot, as scholars have demonstrated, was born around 1440 in Italy (some say Ferrara, some Bologna, some others Florence). At that time, divination of any kind was common. The wealthy didn’t move without consulting astrologers, and the lower classes had geomancy, which, unlike astrology, didn’t require sophisticated tools: no ephemeral tables, just a stick, some sand, paper and ink. Geomantic figures were then transposed on an astrological scheme of 12 houses, so that you could cast real horoscopes without having astronomical data. Like when today, on social media, readers draw cards to do forecasts for every sign; same concept.
Remember also that, in Humanistic and Renaissance Italy, with all its revival of classical (and magical) knowledge and concealed neopaganism, the knowledge of and practice with planetary forces was definitely a thing; in general, also, to use images as a support for meditation was not uncommon at all.
So, my hypothesis is this: what if the set of Major Arcana were intended (amongst all its other possible functions...) as a complete and handy device to comfortably cast astrological divinations? To do this you would need the following elements: the 12 houses, the 7 planets, and some other indicator. Can we find all this stuff inside the Majors’ set? I think so. Some cards display clear astrological symbols after all. Here’s a possible scheme. Notice that for the first 12 Trumps I considered both the houses and the zodiacal signs.
The 12 houses
Then, we can recognize the seven Planets:
Then we have three cards left. We could relate them to the three elements always used in old astrology: the two nodes and the Part of Fortune. May I suggest it?
I composed my birth chart with this method, and it’s been a really interesting figure to meditate on...
Thoughts?
Alright guys, I had to write this here too. Please notice, I don’t want to address and blame the totality of verified readers of r/inclusivetarot. I see many new names there, and they are people I know nothing of and whom I don’t want to address at all. This post is about some persons I directly interacted with, but whom also happen to be the real core of Inclusivetarot. So, to all of you new verified readers, may this post just be an useful warning, so that you can open your eyes and finally understand why something in your community is seriously off. After all, there’s a reason why there were 1.2K weekly visitors in January, and now there are some 300 less.
First of all, the mod team is full of alt-accounts. Do you remember that Valerio Lundini, “the Pope of Rome”? An Italian guy who is also a web/game developer. Then, there has been another mod, u/DesignerCool221. He’s also into the IT field, and he is Italian too. Then, one month ago, this new mod, u/soulishere1, arrives. Guess what...? He is a web/game developer too. 3 guys, all into tarot, all also into IT, and, curiously, all mods of the same still relatively new and small community.
Strange, isn't it? Three persons or rather the same one…? Notice that the mods list goes between public and private very often - let’s say, every time there is some drama happening there - so you will need a little research on usernames to verify this. I’m stopping here at the evidence I have, but if you hang out there, you could notice there are other different accounts who comment with the same style and same vibe, and really sounds to be the same person as well.
Why alt-accounts, you will wonder? Well, this is just a clever commercial move. When you have many alt-accounts, there are more possibilities that the same client asks you do to the same reading again. Very simple. They change their speech style, they change their deck, and the poor client never realizes he’s paying the same persons again and again for the very same reading. And of course, with every new reading they will look to be better readers, since they take advantage of the infos the client already told them…
But, notice, this is not the only way they can already know your infos. Let me explain this, and here I kindly ask people around to back me up. There appeared a post this winter, I don’t remember if it was on r/tarotpractice or r/tarotpractices, which I guess has been removed by now.The author of this post stated quite openly and very casually, as if it were the most normal thing in the world, that among card readers communities people always share information about clients with one another. The wording of the post was so ambiguous that, instead of referring to a bad general custom (which actually is only general amongst group of totally lame readers, since pros don’t need this stuff at all) it was phrased like it was openly addressing and blaming the people in that particular sub where the post was published. So much that some mods there, of course, got mad at him. Well, this unknown author was a previous mod of Inclusive tarot, one that I know very very well. There should be some comment there from me too, if anybody can retrieve the post – I’m talking because I know things. So, yes, client’s privacy, one of the ethical pillars of a card reader, seems not to be a thing for someone at Inclusivetarot. Someone past, and someone present as well. Please follow me.
Consider this. Sorry to go personal now, but what I’ve experienced has been the biggest proof of their radical falsity and bad faith, so my own story is the better example to show you who they are and how much freely they mistreat and damage people. I had some big issues with them, because at the time I was a verified reader there they had some private chat of mine, that, firstly, this last mod I knew very well had no regret sharing amongst the mod team, and, secondly, the mod team had also no problem to post publicly, to enforce their daily usual soap-opera drama. Notice that even if they blurred my name, they directly tagged the person I was talking to in the chat... So, huh, guess what happened...? The other person immediately replied by publishing the entire chat, with names well visible. Blurring names to keep things unrecognizable, but then at the same time tagging counterparts to make things totally recognizable…! (Later u/st0leurmilk realized the whole situation and kindly took the leaked chat down. Thank you again, Milk.) What a nice protection of collaborators’ privacy, from a sub that makes integrity and safe boundaries their flag. They leaked my material without permission and without any measure to safeguard my privacy: blurring my name was nothing, since they also tagged the other person..! If you’re a verified reader there, be careful. Take your stuff for yourself and never share it. Especially if it is very sensitive.
And, lastly, I want to spend some little words to the treatment they reserve to anybody who happens to disagree with them. Disagreeing is normal, and of course if you are mature and reasonable enough you tend to solve it, admit your faults, or al least to get over it and take it for yourself. They simply don’t, guys. They are another kind of persons.They only care to maintain that fake image of fairness, and to do this they create scapegoats for the occasion and destroy opponent's’ reputation. This happened with me, with Milk, and I guess with a pair of previous mods they sent away, so we have quite a pattern here. Of course, if you only hang out there you don’t know these stories, as they like to sing their rotten false-saint rhetoric to their public every day, and ban anybody who dares to ask questions.
But please, take notice of my story again, which sadly didn’t stop at the chat leaking. Have in mind again that it all started when they decided to publish my private stuff, so, basically, they started the whole of it, I’ve just found myself taken in the middle. Well, after that, instead of apologizing, they started bullying me and accusing me of misinformation, just because I said around they actually did leak my private material. Then, since after this I seriously started to complain and yelling at them, they made a long post where they accused me of threatening them physically and of doxx attacks… Two quite serious accusations, indeed. Especially for a professional reader like me. It’s all in the comments in some posts pinned on my profile, if you want some evidence. The original post has been deleted, and the author has later been accused of infamous racist claims (scapegoating, again?) and sent away.
Now, guys. If you want some more evidence of their bad faith, go and ask them to prove you I threatened them so badly. I really invite you to make this test, whether you are their client, or collaborator, or you intend to be one. Since they are so integer and like to prove every claim with honesty, it should not be difficult to provide clear evidence that I really threatened people with criminal intent. Do it, and see what happens… I really invite you to test what kind of persons you are going to deal with. Notice that what they did to me, an ex verified reader and collaborator, can be done to you in any moment, depending from the bad mood they wake up in in the morning.
Very lastly, some other first-hand knowledge I have of how that sub really works. I really cannot prove this point, but, if you have eyes, and if you already work with them, this can nail something somehow. It can be the missing piece you need to understand the general atmosphere there. Lundini, the community creator, has this image of silent mod, one that stays idle for long and only speaks rarely. In reality, he is just a mean guy with an incredibly tyrannical character who likes to use everyone at his convenience and dispose of them when he’s done, without regret, and all behind the scenes. Being him also into very low vibes practices, he spreads negativities around him, both indirectly, AND directly. I mean, he sends spells to his own collaborators, he has no problems at all in doing that. That’s the reason why all the people around him sound so incredibly nervous and out of their head… It’s not casual, it’s not the stress of managing the community, not at all. It’s all due to the same core and foundations that community is built upon: low, mean and selfish energy. So, if you work with them, and have had too many headaches recently, now you know the reason why: you’ve been drained by an unhealthy and vampyrical environment.
So, ponder what I told you and draw your conclusions by yourself...
It would be nice to expand this conversation with all the many persons who have a first-hand knowledge like me. You’re welcome to add your point of view and witness. Thank you all, guys.
