u/1990sforever

During my autism assessment, my IQ test was in five parts. I scored really high on two parts, average in one part...and then two parts were low, down in the 80s. And those deficits are extremely noticeable in my day to day life, even if everything averaged out to give me a "normal" IQ because of my strengths. It's not noticeable when I type or speak, and because of that, people don't believe me when I tell them that I had areas of the test that scored in the 80s range - even though the parts that were in that range have nothing to do with how well I can communicate.

People tell me "if your IQ was in that range, it would be noticeable". Again, it IS noticeable, not in a single Reddit comment, but I notice it every day in my actual irl life. People tell me "IQ tests are all made up". Okay, well the problems that the test found are things I kind of knew I struggled with beforehand, the problems are real no matter what you want to call them. But the worst is when people try and inspire me, they think I'm beating down on myself when I say it, they tell me to try taking the test again, that maybe I was having an off day, maybe I didn't take the test right. I DID!! I always have to assure everyone it is not my self confidence! In fact, the test pointing out problems in those areas was actually very affirming, because I used to think I just wasn't trying hard enough at things. And then they go quiet because they don't know how to reconcile my existence with their (often negative) preconceptions of people with low IQ.

Short answer: >!I mean...it's complicated.!<

The long answer is that:

• I do absolutely believe there were things going on within the conservatorship that should not have been happening.

• Her father was not the right person to put in charge, it should have always been a neutral third party if it were necessary.

• She should not have been on lithium for anywhere NEAR as long as she was. It'd be one thing for them to try it for a couple weeks if the doctors genuinely thought it would help, trying different meds that sometimes don't work or outright backfire really isn't that unusual, but that's it.

• If Britney was upset about some of the restrictions, it should have been taken more seriously than it sounds like it was, and many of the restrictions were unnecessary. (One example that pops out to me is when Britney talked about not being able to redo the kitchen cabinets because it was "too expensive"...like unless it cost thirty million dollars somehow just let her do it oml)

I do also think:

• She's not well right now. I finally watched the full bodycam footage of her DUI arrest, and I was reluctant at first since I'm generally against such footage being publicized (it's basically immortalizing someone's worst moments, often just for entertainment). And I was really alarmed. Nothing about that was normal, even for someone who was drinking. There were a lot of odd claims she made.

• After how long she was under the conservatorship, she should have had more supports when it came to the transition from 0 freedom to 100% freedom. Of course there's going to be some problems, suddenly being told you're free to do whatever you want after over a decade of extreme supervision. I'm not saying that's an excuse or that it gives her behavior a pass, but I am saying I can kinda understand how it got here.

• No one could have predicted she'd suffer a miscarriage and go through a divorce, two events that by themselves can already trigger/exacerbate serious mental health issues, so soon after she was given that complete freedom. I don't really see people talk about that aspect much, but obviously that did not help anything.

• I don't think another conservatorship is the answer, but she does need help to some degree because this has the potential to keep escalating. The DUI was bad enough, but the recent video of her dancing in a dress that barely covered herself in front of one of her staff (if not deliberately trying to get his attention in a couple shots) was even more not okay. And she genuinely doesn't even seem to grasp it. That has now crossed the line where it's seriously affecting others.

• It should not be on her sons to encourage her to get that help, but I don't really know who else she would listen to since she doesn't seem to have many close friends besides maybe Paris. I wish she'd reconnect with Felicia honestly!

So do I regret advocating for a "free Britney"? No, the conservatorship did have issues. But, I'm not happy with the way it's happened, how it's actually panned out in reality. I don't believe in "unfree Britney" so much as I think there should be a balance that, right now, there isn't.

He broke down a door to violently shake one of her kids!

Even if you think Britney is lying about what happened during the conservatorship, exaggerating, etc...you do not get to be a conservator for the person whose KID you broke down a door to shake. You do not get to be in charge of a vulnerable person when you did that to a child.

Whether you think her behavior is due to drug addiction, mental illness, or both, the fact of the matter is that she's sick. She has an illness. And yet, people meme on her like it's hilarious that she's in this state. What are we doing here?? Why are we literally making memes of a person's illness?

I feel like the "strong sense of justice" is something I've seen a lot of LSN autistics glamorize, and I've never really been able to relate to that. Because that sense of justice applies to myself, too, and if something happens where I don't follow it perfectly or can't follow it perfectly, I can end up in a spiral. I've gotten better about not freaking out at others for it, although every now and then I can still have an outburst because I don't realize I'm doing it. Point is, it's not pretty.

Yellow from Deltarune is a character whose entire personality is "justice", but sometimes to a detriment. He ties up his own friends/allies, even when he can acknowledge that they didn't mean any harm, because they're "criminals". He also expresses extreme self-hatred when he thinks he's hurt someone he loves (albeit it's played for laughs), and again when he thinks that same person did something to hurt him, and he doesn't know how to reconcile that strong feeling of "I have to enact justice" vs how much he cares about him.

That is what my "strong sense of justice" looks like. It doesn't make me a perfect, flawless fighter, it makes me miserable.

I'm not saying she was ever actually fat, but to say she's never been called fat is reductive. EVERY female celebrity gets called fat.

Britney Spears has been called fat. Demi Lovato has been called fat. Taylor Swift has been called fat. Selena Gomez has been called fat. Miley Cyrus has been called fat. For fuck's sake, there was once a screenshot going around of someone saying Anya Taylor-Joy should take Ozempic! Pretty much every female celebrity in existence has been told to lose weight. This is a well known fact.

So in the Petal music video, where there's a note saying she "could stand to lose a few", I do fully believe that's something she's heard many, many times in her career, and may have contributed to where she is now. Please stop saying "no one ever said that".

I couldn't be further from those who think Britney is a manipulator, lies about her situation, etc., but there is one incident where it really does seem like she lied and tried to avoid responsibility. And that's the incident with Halsey, which happened after she released her music video sampling "Lucky".

Shortly after the release of the Lucky music video (iirc a couple hours, as someone who watched it all go down in real time), Britney Spears tweeted this out:

>For obvious reasons I'm very upset about the Halsey video. I feel harassed, violated, and bullied. I didn't know an artist like her and someone I looked up to and admired would illustrate me in such an ignorant way by tailoring me as a superficial pop star with no heart or concern at all. I have my own health problems which is why I took down my IG account yesterday. I will definitely be putting it back up to show I CARE. I'm speaking with my lawyers today to see what can be done on this matter. It feels illegal and down right cruel.

So what's the deal with Halsey's MV for "Lucky"? It tells the story of how, when Halsey was a kid, she looked up to the big popstars like Britney, but now that she's a famous popstar herself, she's realizing the struggles that her old favorites faced like being constantly gossiped about, the pressure to push through no matter what happens, and leaving the biggest struggles for behind the scenes. Normal, right? What was Britney offended by? She was vague, but most people are pretty sure it had something to do with the shot where Halsey takes off her wig to reveal a shaved head. If you're not familiar with Halsey, you might be thinking "well gosh, I can see why Britney might be upset about that, the head-shaving incident was a really vulnerable time in her life and it's not something to take lightly like ooh yeah I shaved my head before too-"

Halsey had cancer. The scene references shaving her head while going through chemotherapy. It's not making fun of Britney or downplaying her struggles, it's drawing the parallel of a shaved head that relates to a secret hidden from the public (for Britney it was everything going on behind the scenes leading up to her breakdown, for Halsey it was the fact that she hid the details of her chemo/illness from the public for a long time).

Needless to say, this resulted in Britney's response getting backlash. About an hour later, Britney deleted the tweet aaaand...denied she'd written it.

>Fake news !!! That was not me on my phone !!! I love Halsey and that's why I deleted it [rose emoji] !!!

Now, the writing style of the original tweet IS different from Britney's usual writing style, but that could be easily explained as her having a representative write it for her (given the legal threat it contained). It's certainly more likely than someone hacking into her phone, doing NOTHING but posting that one singular tweet, and then Britney getting control of the phone/account back almost immediately after.

She had understandable reasons to assume and be uncomfortable initially. What I don't like is the way she insisted it was someone hacking her instead of saying sorry.

...that they turn around and laugh, like those aren't genuine mental illnesses. Like okay, let's say she does (I don't actually think that, but for the sake of the post we're going to entertain it). If you're laughing at her for experiencing "BPD symptoms", having a "narcissistic collapse", etc. you're laughing at someone for experiencing symptoms of a mental illness. The people accusing her of it often don't proceed to wish her well or say "I hope she gets help". (Not saying 100% of the time, but often). They treat it as a joke, as another thing to hate on her for, and as usual it gets treated like "evil person disorder".

I'm not saying it's on the same level by any means, but I've seen similar behavior with the way people talk about Britney Spears. The way a lot of people will go "oh yeah, she's probably having some kind of mental breakdown...LMAO! IT'S SO FUNNY TO WATCH!".

Treating BPD/NPD this way hurts more than the person you're trying to hurt. People with BPD/NPD are seeing these posts and comments, including people that know they have a problem and are trying to change, and already feel bad enough about their situation as it is. How do you think that's going to affect them, if they see a hundred people saying how hilarious it is to witness someone potentially going through the same things they're struggling with?

(This isn't about any specific posts/places, just something that crossed my mind after that line in the Petal MV).

Memes must be your own work. Screenshots accompanied by text within the image, that was not added by you, are not allowed in any capacity.

I know this rule cracking down on the white-background images was certainly long overdue. I tried to let it slide in the beginning since the posts were still gaining a fair amount of traction, but it's gotten to the point where it's beginning to compromise the quality of the subreddit.

Eventually, Red is going to have to tell Pink that she's from a different timeline.

Eventually, Pink is going to have to find out that the sister she remembers growing up with is gone forever, and has been replaced by someone that looks like her but is a complete stranger (no matter how well the new Red gets along with her eventually).

Which means Pink is going to have an existential crisis at best (i.e. "I didn't exist before?? Am I not supposed to exist??"), or at worst hate Red for taking her "real" sister away. Either way, why do I feel like this is going to end with Maddox finding Pink while she's vulnerable and convincing her that he'll "put everything back to normal" if she hands over the pocketwatch?

They're spending pretty much the whole movie panicking at the changes they made to the world...but they can't go back and un-change it without functionally murdering Pink (since in the original timeline she was never born). So how in the world are they actually supposed to fix this??

I guess evil Chloe isn't really a huge spoiler anymore given the trailers but. thought I'd be extra safe regarding the title.

A piece I think we're all missing when talking about Chloe's turn to a villain is that she only trusts Red so much. She seems like she trusts her a lot right now, but there's only so close they can possibly be. Yes, they've been friends since the first movie...which isn't as long ago as it was in real time. It's easy to think of Chloe and Red as having been friends for years now because that's how long it's been since the last movie came out.

In movie time, Rise of Red was like, YESTERDAY. CHLOE AND RED HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A DAY. Which means Red sentencing Chloe's mother to death was also yesterday...it's really not going to be all that hard if someone wants to turn Chloe against her when the trauma from witnessing that is still fresh. My guess is going to be that Max/whoever else gets involved starts with bringing that up, and just piggybacks off of that to convince her to be a full-on villain.