u/According_Sundae_917

Curious to hear his style described by people who do and don’t like him as a comedian.

My take is this:

Joe is not a naturally funny person but, in the same way he ‘studies’ topics he’s interested in for his podcasts or trained his body for MMA - he will absolutely apply himself in a disciplined way and took this approach with comedy. He identifies a path toward what he sees as success and follows it.

That’s the issue though, his approach to stand up is too ‘studied’ and he has trained himself to perform what he thinks a stand up should do - and execute a formula on stage, rather than truly tapping into it as a creative art form like other natural comics do.

He understands that mediocre comedic observations can elicit laughs if performed loudly and with exaggerated expression, so that’s what he does. He knows that making ‘edgy’ statements that his audience feel smart for agreeing with will elicit laughter and applause - so that’s what he does. He knows that a confident performance can almost force audiences into a positive reaction.

What’s strange about Joe is that in his off stage life he’s dominant, as a podcaster he sits there with a lot of power over his guests - he’s safe and secure and so you’d think this guy would have a cool demeanour on stage. But actually, his energy on stage is practically begging the audience for laughs in the way he forces this big-energy comedy train in their faces.

I believe he’s learned all of these things because they kind of compensate for the fact he doesn’t really know how to write original, sophisticated material. He just performs his loud version of material he’s seen work elsewhere.

I don’t think I do care because stand up isn’t strictly meant to be 100% truthful, they’re always talking about a mother in law that didn’t say the thing or exaggerating a story. To me it falls under that artistic license and finding material that works on stage. If Karl was another working comedian I’d absolutely say it’s wrong to pass his takes off as his own.

Also, arguably, Ricky put Karl in a position to make millions from just being himself in a way Karl alone could never have monetised alone so it doesn’t feel like he’s just mined KP for his own solo material and given nothing in return.

Saying that, when Ricky uses something Karl originally said, to sound witty himself, that he originally mocked Karl for - Im annoyed on behalf of the K-man

In RE (1990s) I remember bible story videos but instead of being animated cartoons that children actually like, the camera zoomed into the pictures of an illustrated bible and panned around the static scenes with a narrator telling a story. Truly boring! Wonder if that was a nationally used resource in UK schools?

I also remember a quirky French cartoon with a monster.

Will probably has the box office numbers and has the Oscar but is Eddie more significant purely for his profound influence on generations of comedians and actors?

Eddie would’ve been a big influence on Will, the goofy funny act he plays in Fresh Prince of Bel Air. And Eddie’s action comedy style from BH Cop is the blueprint for Will in Bad Boys.

I just woke in a cold sweat having dreamt a terrifying scenario: 

Parked in a British city centre multi-storey car park for a night out. Woke up in Bulgaria three days later (ignore that detail) and my car is still in the car park now racking up £1000s.

Once I return from Bulgaria (I have to drive the whole way back in a Panda apparently), I need to get my car out but paying that ticket will BANKRUPT me.

So a creative solution is required, ALL options are on the table... What should I do?

Here are some details of the car park that may help:

• Entry: take a ticket from machine at the barrier (unsure whether it logs your car reg by camera) 
• Exit - by ticket into a pay station machine, then paid ticket into machine as you approach exit barrier
• CCTV at entrance and exit but not in actual parking levels 
• Car park is manned but nobody stationed at the exit (just in an office not in sight of exit)
• Site managers do 8 hour shifts
• I still have the original ticket

or if you have already, when did that happen?

I’ve seen some backlash this week mainly from prominent online Black commentators (FD Signifier, Joe Budden Podcast, Dr Umar Johnson) and discussion on social media saying:

• the racist jokes crossed a line
• white comedians have gotten too comfortable making racist jokes to Black people
• Kevin Hart sold out Black culture permitting outsiders to joke about it so disrespectfully

I’m torn because:

• I love roasts and believe those who participate know they’re consenting to boundary-pushing jokes - that’s the agreed purpose of the event
• Some jokes made me wince (not offended but more like ‘whoah, that’s brutal’ … and more shock value than humour.
• I believe no subject should *necessarily* be off limits but it’s about how comics handle the subject to make it funny. Pure shock-value edgy jokes aren’t clever, they just force a reaction, requiring no real comedic skill. Some of Shane Gillis’ jokes (lynching from a bonsai tree, Aladdin’s monkey) sound like the witless things a 14 year old says to his bros to be edgy. And I really like Shane.

Overall I enjoyed lots of the jokes but many felt like they were simply seeking to push the discomfort to extremes for the sake of edginess rather than for the sake of smart humour. It felt desperate to shock.

I understand roast culture but this event had an edge I haven’t seen before and there seemed to be an air of discomfort amongst some people.

IMO white comedians roasting black women for dark skin, weight, looking like an animal may technically be ‘fair game‘ in a roast but feels like dangerous territory. Does the context of ‘roast comedy’ literally permit anyone to say anything or are there still limits to respect?

Race jokes can absolutely be funny but it’s a thin line and several here missed IMO - but I’m wondering how this landed for you?

acknowledged on his podcast or reacted somehow on social media?

Won't bore you with what makes my family dysfunctional but it feels like the dynamics are so complex and entrenched in decades of negativity that there's just no realistic hope of improving things. And yet it also feels like it
*could* be possible, that there's this 'normal' happy family life awaiting us if only a few things could change.

So it'd be great to hear stories of family situations that looked bleak but you turned them around to become workable or even happy.

*Posting here in a UK sub because British attitudes to addressing family problems can be relevant here.

Always loved BW myself but picked up an assumption early in life that (a) red head men are less attractive to women generally and (b) that this may be especially true for BW because fair skin and red hair is so opposite.

So I was curious and amazed to hear there’s this ‘stereotype’ (for want of a better word) that plenty of BW do actually really like us!

If you do, are you able to explain why?

Or maybe there’s no extraordinary reason and it’s just the engrained red head self loathing skewing my perception!

Thanks and hoping my question is taken in the spirit of genuine curiosity it was intended.