u/Aggapres

J'aimerais enlarger mon cercle d'amis et surtout passer des bons moments autour de la bouffe végane avec des gens qui partagent mes valeurs. Je suis sur Nice, femme, 36ans.

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Premetto che questo non è un post contro i vegetariani o la dieta vegetariana, ma una riflessione sulla scelta del logo.

Mi spiego meglio: spesso i loghi e disegnini usati per indicare prodotti lacto-ovo vegetariani, sia tra i loghi ufficiali, sia tra quelli più creativi usati nei menù di bar w ristoranti, includono una foglia o una piantina.

Il problema sta nel fatto che spesso lo stesso identico logo, o uno simile, è usato per indicare i cibi vegani. In alcuni ristoranti ad esempio ho visto usare una foglia per indicare vegetariano e due foglie sovrapposte per indicare vegano.

Ora capisco che per un carnista o per un lacto-ovo vegetariano non sia di grande importanza il fatto che i loghi siano simili, e anzi permette loro di identificare con facilità i prodotti che non contengono carne. Ma per un vegano o per qualcuno che deve dar da mangiare a un vegano (parenti, amici, la scuola che organizza una merenda, un catering, una sagra di paese ecc), diventa molto difficile capire quali prodotti sono effettivamente vegani e molte volte può anche trarre in inganno.

Per esempio, non ditemi che la prima volta che avete intravisto il logo vegetariano sulla maionese il vostro cuore non ha sobbalzato pensando "oh! Hanno fatto la mayo vegana!" Salvo poi vedere che era il logo vegetariano, come se normalmente la maionese contenesse carne e ci fosse bisogno di mettere il logo.

Oppure quando si va in pasticceria e mettono una bella fogliolona accanto ai nomi di alcuni pasticcini e pensi wow! Hanno tanti pasticcini vegani! Salvo poi scoprire che sono vegetariani, e che il fatto che la foglia non sia su tutti è dato dal fatto che stanno cambiando le etichette 🤦🏼🤦🏼.

Che poi, pasticcino al cioccolato composto al 90% da uova e burro, senza né frutta né verdura dentro, perché dovrebbe avere una foglia come logo?

Non sarebbe più appropriato il cartone del latte e l'uovo?

Quindi la mia riflessione è: perché il logo dei vegetariani non può essere qualcosa che rimandi a latte e uova piuttosto di qualcosa che rimandi alle piante? Non sarebbe più coerente e più facilmente identificabile anche per chi ha intolleranze? E non aiuterebbe meglio i carnisti a capire la differenza tra vegani e vegetariani? Cosa ne pensate?

Est ce que il y a quelq'un qui participera a cette marche du 26 septembre ? Ils parlent du climat mais ils ne mentionnent pas du tout l'alimentation végétalienne.

Je leur ai envoyé un mail pour demander pourquoi ils n'ont pas mentionné ni le plant based treaty ni d'autres choses et ils ont répondu comme ça : «L'appel tel qu'il se trouve sur notre site est un premier cri, large, destiné à poster un constat (celui que la situation actuelle ne peut pas durer et ne durera pas, que l'on soit d'accord ou pas), et à rassembler les citoyens autour de ce constat. Il évoque quelque points très rapidement mais n'a pas du tout vocation à être exhaustif. Il sera ensuite l'heure de proposer des solutions, et nous espérons que les marches du 26 déboucheront sur plein d'actions qui mèneront vers la mise en place de solutions. C'est à ce moment là que les préoccupations de réduction de la consommation de viande, prendront toute leur place. Nous avons bien à l'esprit que c'est un gros levier pour baisser les émissions de gaz à effet de serre.»

Vous en pensez quoi ? J'y participerai s'il y a du sens, mais s'il s'agit juste du blabla non.

Hi! I have been using barefoot shoes for 3 years now. I basically wear the same shoes every day and I have a pair of sneakers and a pair of winter boots. I've never actually truly experimented with barefoot shoes.

I have always trained barefoot (with no shoes, no socks), I usually do some low weightlifting and body weight hiit.

But recently I started being interested in parkour, so I want to train jumping, landing, some speed running, and some equilibrium excercises so I'd like to start using shoes that can support me while jumping etc. I still want the shoes to be barefoot, but the sneakers I use (from feelgrounds) are too thin and I don't want to hurt myself especially when landing on gravel or rocks.

I checked **vivobarefoot, saguaro, xero** online.

I find that **vivo's** sole seems to be smoother so I am worried about slipping and wear and tear.

**Saguaro** are interesting in terms of price but there are so many models (motion, free, vigor, fast) I don't understand the differences.

**Xero** shoes also seem good, I was looking at the hfs II and the sole seems solid, but they look chunky, so I am worried they would feel too big?

I am also worried about width, since I have tried some barefoot shoes in the past and they were uncomfortable (e.g. the be lenka, they were too long in the first toe but too short towards the 4th and 5th toe) I'd say I have a Roman foot type.

Please do not suggest I buy different models and then return them because I don't want to do that.

I am autistic and I can't take a decision without analyzing every detail, so please be kind to my long post and me 😄

Thanks!

Hi! I have been using barefoot shoes for 3 years now. I basically wear the same shoes every day and I have a pair of sneakers and a pair of winter boots. I've never actually truly experimented with barefoot shoes.

I have always trained barefoot (with no shoes, no socks), I usually do some low weightlifting and body weight hiit.

But recently I started being interested in parkour, so I want to train jumping, landing, some speed running, and some equilibrium excercises so I'd like to start using shoes that can support me while jumping etc. I still want the shoes to be barefoot, but the sneakers I use (from feelgrounds) are too thin and I don't want to hurt myself especially when landing on gravel or rocks.

I checked vivobarefoot, saguaro, xero online.

I find that vivo's sole seems to be smoother so I am worried about slipping and wear and tear.

Saguaro are interesting in terms of price but there are so many models (motion, free, vigor, fast) I don't understand the differences.

Xero shoes also seem good, I was looking at the hfs II and the sole seems solid, but they look chunky, so I am worried they would feel too big?

I am also worried about width, since I have tried some barefoot shoes in the past and they were uncomfortable (e.g. the be lenka, they were too long in the first toe but too short towards the 4th and 5th toe) I'd say I have a Roman foot type.

Please do not suggest I buy different models and then return them because I don't want to do that.

I am autistic and I can't take a decision without analyzing every detail, so please be kind to my long post and me 😄

Thanks!

Reddit keeps showing me posts from this sub, most of them about plant based diet or nutrition or being vegan in my country and it took me a while to realise I couldn't directly reply to these questions because I don't use a vegan flair. As per rule #6 "If you're not a vegan, don't answer questions. All top-level comments must be by a flaired vegan"

Now, while on one hand I understand the concern about avoiding non vegans giving advice on something they don't know, there are many of us who live a vegan lifestyle without necessarily identifying as vegans. I have my personal reasons to not want to use the vegan flair but I'd love to contribute to questions.

So I was wondering if the mods have thought about extending the right to top-level comment to plant based folks and others.

Thank you for the clarification 💕

EDIT: this question was meant to be just a question for the mods asking the reason about the strict rule for the vegan flair. It was not meant to be a debate, but since many of you insisted on asking me the personal reason for me not using the label (which was NOT the topic of my question) I replied. And yet some of you took it personally 🤷🏼

Other than that, thank you to all those who kept a polite dialogue and helped me realise a few things about myself and why I refuse labels, this has been very helpful and even though it didn't directly answer my question, it helped me understand how the flairs are used specifically on this post. So I'd say I got the answer to my question 💕