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Image 1 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 2 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 3 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 4 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 5 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 6 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 7 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 8 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 9 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 10 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras
Image 11 — Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras

Initial impressions of Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide, replacing my Altra Lone Peak 9+ for ultras

Initial impressions

  • The TrailFly Zero Wide has a very anatomically designed toebox, with an even wider toebox than Lone Peak's.
  • The TrailFly Zero Wide has a bit of an aggressive tapering at the outer toes, similar to the tapering of Vivo shoes. Still, compared to the insoles against the Altra's, the Inov8's insoles are actually wider than Altra's, which was a pleasant surprise.
  • The TrailFly Zero's cushioning feel a bit stiffer than the Lone Peak's, but I have not broken them in yet.
  • I prefer the outsole design of the Lone Peak's on paper, but I haven't actually tested them out.
  • I love that the Inov8s are 23g lighter than the Altras.

Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide vs. Altra Lone Peak 9+ (size 44) comparison table

metric Inov8 TrailFly Zero V2 Wide Altra Lone Peak 9+
price 170 EUR 150 EUR
drop 0 mm 0 mm
stack height 22 mm 25 mm
insole max width 11 m 10 mm
weight 301 g 324 g

Context

I ran a 128K ultra in Altra Lone Peak 9+s (link) two weeks ago, where I was able to finish the ultra but ended up with huge blisters on my big toes. Despite really liking the shoes otherwise, I decided I needed to find an alternative ultra shoe that hopefully won't give me the blistering issues I faced with the Lone Peaks.

To find alternative ultra shoes, I tried to find trail running shoes that:

  • Are zero drop
  • Have anatomical toe boxes
  • Have enough support (around 20mm) to last ultra-distance runs past 100K

Excluding Altras, there actually weren't that many, and I only found two other brands that made shoes that fit the bill:

I tried out the Topo Pursuit 3 in person at a local running store, but I didn't like the arch support and how tight they felt at the midfoot, presumably due to the arch support. I also didn't like the rounded & elevated design of the front, instead of the shoes sitting flatter on the ground like a neutral shoe should. The toebox also felt much more narrower than I liked, and it didn't feel like my toes had enough room to splay out naturally.

On the other hand, I used to really enjoy trail running in Inov8 shoes back in 2016 (previously used Terraclaw 220 and Trailroc 245), so I wanted to give Inov8 another shot, especially with their move back into natural running-inspired design philosophy called NATURALFIT:

>Our new design and fit ensures the foot controls the shoe, not the other way round. It's as nature intended.

The Talon shoes seemed to be a bit more niche and specialized, while the TrailFly shoes seemed to cover a wider range of terrain variety, so I decided on the TrailFly shoes.

While I haven't taken them out for a test run yet, I love how they feel on my feet. I am especially impressed at the anatomical design of the toeboxes, and I did not expect them to actually be wider than the Lone Peak 9+s. I just hope that I won't have similar blistering issues with them.

Side note, the shoes were strangely quite difficult to find, and I only found 2 pairs left in stock in my local running store, 1 of which miraculously happened to be my size in the wide version. If I like them, I may need to stock up on them when I next visit the UK, Inov8's home domicile.

u/imjms737 — 6 days ago
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Uk barefoot Expo 17-18th October

Will we see you there? 😬👏🏻🦶

With just over a week left things are all falling into place nicely here!

Theres 15 more brands than last year 😬😬
Will drop a full list if anyone’s interested?

£15 a ticket, but you will not find a greater selection of barefoot brands from around the world with discounted stock 🙏🏼

Not to mention workshops and prominent figures/speakers from within the community, it’s set to be a great weekend!

Hopefully see you there! Any questions drop them here 👏🏻

Kind regards as always, Dan 🦶

@b2barefoot_dan

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u/pwndbythedan — 6 days ago
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WHITIN fit check: size up or try a wider shoe?

I’m comparing two WHITIN models: the white pair is a size 11, and the green pair is an 11.5. In the insole photos, the regular socks with lettering are on the white insoles; the toe socks are on the green insoles.
The white 11s are too short—my right big toe hits the front when I walk. I could exchange them for a 12, but the side seam also sits directly over my bunion and puts pressure on it. The green pair has more flexible mesh in that area and feels a little roomier, though I’m not sure whether that’s because it’s a half size larger.
My bunion hangs over the side of both insoles. Is that common even in wide toe box shoes? The white model is supposedly one of WHITIN’s widest, so I’m wondering whether a size 12 would actually help or just leave me with shoes that look and feel too long.
Would you try the white pair in a 12, stick with the green model, or look for a wider shoe from another brand? Specific model recommendations are welcome.

u/Chemical-Fun3692 — 6 days ago
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Did I measure my foot correctly? Looking for normal-looking gym shoes that fit a bunion

I don’t traced my foot while standing and measured about 28.5 cm long and 11 cm wide across the bunion/ball of my foot. Does the tracing and measurement look right? It was surprisingly hard to keep the pen vertical—angling it inward or outward changed the outline quite a bit.
When comparing this to shoe size charts or insoles, how much extra room should I allow in length and width? I’m looking for a comfortable, fairly minimal gym shoe with room at the first MTP joint, preferably one that looks like a regular sneaker. Any models you’d suggest for this foot shape?

u/Chemical-Fun3692 — 5 days ago
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Got these cheap sandals off Taobao

I’ve been wearing barefoot shoes now for about 1.5 years and have been lurking here the whole time. Got some Panta sandals before the summer which I loved, but was intrigued to see if there were cheaper options so started looking. Ordered these no-name sandals from Taobao for $8.90 (plus shipping) out of curiosity to see whether cheap no-name sandals can actually compete with the established brands.

First impressions after unboxing:
- Fairly light: the pair weighs 370 g
- Thin, flexible sole, feels sturdy so far, need to see if they mold to feet
- Comfortable on my feet, though the sole runs a bit narrow (ok for my size EU46 female shaped feet :D)
- One quality issue: the velcro on one strap is slightly frayed and not stitched on well at one side

I'll wear them over the next week or two and post an honest update on comfort, fit and how they hold up.
Maybe this could help someone out here.

Would you buy something like this over Shamma, Xero & co.? The cheaper sandals are also made in china or overseas mostly and probably have the same quality I feel like. Or would you never buy a no-name sandal from the start?

u/Tecktunis — 7 days ago
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I walked 40,000 steps in Adidas slides because I was too lazy to wear my actual walking shoes.

[effacé]

u/[deleted] — 5 days ago
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WHYYY

i know i am not saying anything new, but why do all the new altras SUCK. even the “original” shapes seem to have changed. i really notice it in how the shoe curves and the mesh over the outer toe area. seems like the shoes have become more crescent shaped which makes my arch fall over the inside edge. and while the toe box is still relatively wide, the volume seems cut down especially on the outside edge of the shoe. not only that, but they are really leaning into the plush marshmallow foam trend and it pisses me off. i have had to return the last 5 pears of shoes I bought from altra:

  1. Torin ST — did not like guide rail tech

  2. Vanish pulse — ok for short stints but again the weird crescent shape. and did not enjoy the “bouncy responsive” experience

  3. Vanish carbon — rocker was too far back even when i went up a size

  4. Experienxe Flow 2 — ok to walk in and decent volume, but felt like a marshmallow to run in. almost immediately developed plantar fasciitis

  5. Motiv Flex — this new more budget everyday trainer was a little better, but i still found the foam just too flexible

I may consider trying to buy up all the pre 2025 models and using a carbon fiber insert to firm them up a bit. but man altra used to be better from what i remember. I had a little more luck with the Torin 7 and Escalante racer in terms of fit, but more for walking. They do not feel rigid enough to run long distances. may go back to lone peak wides.

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u/Ok-Vermicelli9100 — 13 days ago
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Asics Hypersync my new daily

I’ve worn zero drop shoes for daily use for about 10 years, including WHITIN, Vivobarefoot, and Xero. I usually wear a 10.5. They’ve been great for everyday life, though I’ve learned that daily wear and sports are different things.

I have what I call the Disneyland test. I used to go about twice a month, and after a full day in running or walking shoes, my feet would always ache when I got home. One day I accidentally wore my WHITINs instead, and my feet felt fine at the end of the day. That was the pair that sold me on barefoot shoes for daily use even though they were, to me, by far the ugliest shoes I owned.

Tennis was a different story. I played in Vivobarefoots and threw out my back. I remember seeing a tennis player in their marketing at the time, so I thought they might work for me on court. Now I stick with conventional athletic shoes for tennis and other explosive sports. They might work for lower level tennis players, I cant imagine it working for high level play especially if you slide on court.

For everyday wear, my biggest gripe with barefoot shoes has always been their appearance. The Xero Prio Neo became my usual compromise because it looks presentable and fits my feet well.

I’ve always liked ASICS, so I bought the HYPERSYNC as soon as I saw it. I’ve worn it daily for about a month, and it’s become my favorite everyday pair. I’ve also worn it for a full day at Disneyland, and my feet felt great afterward.

The toe room feels about the same as my Xero Prio Neos on my feet. The HYPERSYNC feels low to the ground, with what seems like zero toe drop, though I haven’t measured it. It has a bit more cushioning than the barefoot shoes I’m used to, so there’s less ground feel. I’ve found it very comfortable.

For me, that’s a tradeoff I’m happy to make. I get much of what I like about minimalist shoes in a pair I also enjoy wearing out. If you need more toe room than Xero gives you, these probably aren’t the answer. But if Xeros fit you and you want another low-profile everyday option, the HYPERSYNC is worth a look.

I don't normally post, but I want legacy brands like Asics to dive into this market a bit more. I know they have been vocal about being against minimalist shoes in the past, so its shocking to me to see that they came out with the Hypersync's. I started hunting for any kind of review on them and of course there is nothing. I bit the bullet, and I'm glad I did, they nailed it.

u/powerwing — 13 days ago

Minimalist Shoes - Injuries?

Has anyone else experienced this after increasing their mileage in minimalist shoes?

I’ve been wearing zero-drop/minimalist shoes almost exclusively since I was about 18, and I’m 28 now. I’ve run in pretty much everything over the years—Vibram FiveFingers, running sandals, VivoBarefoot, Altras, water shoes, etc. I’ve also done ultras in sandals and other minimalist footwear, and historically I’ve never really had problems with my legs or feet from it.

The difference now is my mileage.

I used to be more of a recreational runner, probably around 20 miles/week. Over the past year or so, I’ve gotten much more into ultra running and have done Last Man Standing races, longer ultras, etc. Now I’m sometimes running 50–70 miles per week, while also spending a lot of time on my feet throughout the day.

For the last three weeks, though, I’ve noticed something weird. Every time I run, my legs have this strange feeling that I can only describe as deep pressure/aching in the bones. It isn't really pain, and I don't feel particularly sore during the day. I can wake up the next morning and run again without much trouble. But while I'm running, it feels like there is a ton of pressure inside my legs—almost like they're going to explode or pop.

It’s hard to describe because it isn't the typical muscle soreness or sharp pain you'd associate with an injury.

I’m also wondering if it could be related to how much mileage I’m doing in minimalist footwear. I rotate through several different shoes, so it’s not like I’m exclusively using one pair:

- Running sandals: ~24 mm stack

- Altra Lone Peaks: ~28 mm, but they're pretty worn out

- VivoBarefoot: ~10 mm, mostly for hiking

- Vibram FiveFingers: ~8 mm

- And I rotate between them depending on what I'm doing.

I’ve never had an issue hiking in my Vivos or doing shorter runs in FiveFingers/sandals, but I’m starting to wonder whether the combination of 50–70 mile weeks + being on my feet all day + minimalist/zero-drop footwear is eventually catching up with me.

At the same time, I don't necessarily want to blame minimalist shoes because I've been using them for 10 years without problems. The biggest variable that has changed is really my total workload and mileage.

Has anyone experienced something similar after going from recreational mileage to serious ultra mileage?

And for those of you who have been running minimalist/barefoot for years, have you found a point where the mileage itself became too much even though your feet/legs were well adapted to minimalist shoes?

I’m mostly curious whether this sounds like accumulated training stress, footwear/load distribution, or something else entirely. I’m not looking for a diagnosis—just interested in hearing from people who have experienced something similar.

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u/MaximiseUrLife — 13 days ago

First shoes - size concern

Hey everyone!

I just got my first pair of barefoot shoes — handmade leather boots — and I’m a little unsure about the fit.

I sent the seller my exact foot measurements, and they chose the size for me. They feel pretty tight, especially around the width and instep. I also have flat feet, and my right foot is slightly bigger than my left. My right toes feel quite close to the front of the toe box, although there’s roughly 0.5 inch of space.

Since these are handmade boots from a small Etsy seller, I’d probably have to pay the return shipping if I want to exchange them, which could cost almost half of what I paid for the boots.

Is this normal for new leather barefoot boots? I’d really appreciate any advice!

u/Klutzy_Dimension_783 — 13 days ago
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Are the V-Runs any good?

A while ago I saw this video essentially saying "Vibram is ruining FiveFingers." Coincidentally, around the time I saw this video, I wanted to buy a pair. For a few months I've had my eyes on the V-Runs but I don't want to purchase uninformed. Would any of you (if you've bought a pair in the last few months) be willing to share y'all's experiences with your V-Runs? Thanks and much love :)

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u/Known_Recover9529 — 14 days ago