Is there a pseudo-linguistics theory popular in your country?
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Is there a pseudo-linguistics theory popular in your country?

In Korea, there are fools who connect Tamil and Korean, and since Korean is an isolated language with no connection to any language in its basic vocabulary, excluding loanwords like Sino-Korean words, it seems to stem from a desire to find a sister language somehow.

It is truly ridiculous. 🤣🤣🤣

Similarly, Lahu in Thailand is another language that becomes a victim of this, but it is less mainstream compared to Tamil.

The grammar of Korean, Japanese, Mongolian, and Turkish is surprisingly similar, and it was once the mainstream theory that they belonged to the same language family, but the problem is that there is no lexical evidence whatsoever. Older generations who went to school in the past still believe this theory, but they are just slow to update their knowledge, and they are not stupid.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 day ago

Would a business like this be allowed in your country?

In Korea, you can commonly find "cat cafes (고양이 카페)" where you can drink coffee and play with cats. Depending on the country, it could indeed pose issues regarding animal welfare laws. I'm not sure, but there will likely be cases where food hygiene laws could also cause issues.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 2 days ago

What comes to mind first when you think of Greek and Roman mythology in your country?

Korea naturally has no connection to things like the mythology of the European cultural sphere, but a children's comic book series about Greek and Roman mythology was once wildly popular. I loved this series as well.

If a Korean knows the contents of Greek and Roman mythology inside out, it is thanks to this comic book.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 3 days ago

Is there a historical figure in your country who must never be insulted?

In Gwanghwamun Square in Seoul, there are statues of King Sejong(1397-1450) and Admiral Yi Sunshin(1545-1598). I will omit the status these people hold in Korean society. (Since you will not know these figures, to explain them very briefly, the former is a genius linguist who created an alphabet perfectly suited for use as a writing system for Korean, and the latter is an undefeated, legendary admiral who cut off Japan's supply lines during the Japanese invasion of Korea, a war that changed the history of all of East Asia.)

Of course, it is not that academic criticism of these figures is disallowed, but insults are socially unacceptable. If you want to maintain a good relationship with Koreans, don't insult them in front of Koreans. lol

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 5 days ago

When is the Independence Day of your country, if it has one?

Korea's is today, August 15. It is as if Korea gained independence right as WWII ended, and it is said that Chiang Kai-shek, who had a close relationship with the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea, strongly demanded Korea's independence from the Soviet Union, Britain, and the US. Of course, behind that was the dedication of the Korean Independent Army, which fought alongside the Republic of China in WWII.

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u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 5 days ago
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A museum in Korea

Translation:

A Big Resonance Carried by Small Hands

Not long ago, the father of a child attending a local elementary school visited the museum carrying a small stone. He told us that his child believed the stone was an artifact from the Stone Age and wanted to donate it to the museum. Although it was just an ordinary, slightly pointed stone, the child's pure intention was so beautiful that we decided to put it on display.

The Goseong Museum is not only a place that embraces a long history, but also a place that holds the precious intentions of its donors. To honor the hearts of everyone who has donated artifacts for Goseong—from children to the elderly, from villages and organizations to overseas Koreans—we have created a small donation exhibition space.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 15 days ago

How many years will it take to resolve global economic inequality?

Honestly, a significant number of these are countries that built their wealth by exploiting their colonies.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 20 days ago

Which language feels the most out of place in your cultural sphere?

In East Asia, it is probably Mongolian, right?

The languages of East Asia are products that started from different roots and underwent convergent evolution.

Korean and Japanese are language isolates with no known linguistic relatives, and Vietnamese belongs to the Austroasiatic family, but their high-level vocabulary and abstract vocabulary (approximately 60 percent for each language) are Classical Chinese (as a separate language from Mandarin, it is a literary language derived from Ancient Chinese, and it differs greatly from Modern Chinese in grammar and vocabulary. Like Latin in Europe, it exercised a tremendous influence as an administrative and academic language.) loanwords that have independently developed their word formation and pronunciation in each language. The higher-level vocabulary of these languages is closely related to one another.

However, only Mongolia uses use a pure Mongolic language. In fact, even culturally, Mongolia is the biggest outlier in East Asia, so it is ambiguous to view it as part of the same cultural sphere. On the contrary, Vietnam, which geographically belongs to Southeast Asia, is grouped into the same cultural sphere as China, Japan, and Korea.

Still, Mongolians learn Korean quickly because it is an agglutinative language with the same word order. Turkish, Mongolian, Korean, and Japanese are grammatically very similar. Even so, unlike Japanese, Korean is a language where passive expressions are limited, while expressions that emphasize contrast through particles are well developed. Judging from the fact that there are significant differences in detailed grammar between Korean and Japanese as well, there may be differences in detailed grammar between Mongolian and Korean as well, but I cannot speak Mongolian. Except for grammatical similarities, it can be viewed that there are almost no commonalities.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 24 days ago

Which artifact in your country has ridiculous scribbles from that time?

In the late Joseon Dynasty of Korea, book rental shops were popular, and the books in those rental shops during this period contain many truly ridiculous scribbles.

- The owner of this book is a son of a dog, a son of a horse, a son of a pig, a son of a cow, a son of a crow, and a son of a kite, so if anyone greets him after seeing this, that person will become just like him. It is certain that the owner of this book is indeed like this.

- Book owner, look at this. You bastard, what is it that you do by renting out books? You charge far too much in book rental fees!

- Book owner, look at this. This book is interesting, but there is too much scribbling, making it difficult to read, so please repair it.

- Book owner, look at this. There is a lot of scribbling in this book, so repair it before renting it out again. If you don't, I will put your mother at the Jongno intersection and...

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 25 days ago

Which of the traditional women's clothing in the Sinosphere do you feel is the most attractive?

Of course, it's not a particularly meaningful question. lol

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 27 days ago

If someone hitchhikes in your country, will it succeed?

In Korea, it will probably be impossible. Hitchhiking culture does not exist here, and this kind of behavior is not common. It is also a country where the public transportation network is dense nationwide, so there is no need to hitchhike.

I don't know. Because Koreans are generally warm-hearted, they might willingly help others even in an unusual situation. However, it is not certain.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 29 days ago

Are there any studies that compare the proportion of Sino-derived words among Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese?

It seems to be generally considered that the order is Vietnamese > Korean > Japanese, but I don't know if there is any solid research on this.

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u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 30 days ago

Who is the most famous fantasy novelist in your country?

In Korea, that would be Lee Yeongdo. Representative works include "The Bird That Drinks Tears" and "Dragon Raja".

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 month ago

How far can people in your country eat things raw?

Fish: Possible. Koreans love it.

Beef: Possible. Koreans love it.

Pork: Impossible.

Eggs: Impossible. This is also a part where Koreans feel a cultural difference with Japan, as raw eggs are quite common in Japan. (Come to think of it, although they are not as common as in Japan, it seems raw egg dishes do indeed exist. Raw eggs go into the raw beef dish mentioned earlier.)

Cow blood and pig blood: Koreans do eat this, but they never eat it raw; they only eat it cooked.

Chicken: No one would eat this raw unless they are crazy.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 month ago

Is there a part of your language's orthography that you're relieved has changed?

This document is a Korean edict issued by the king to the people during a war in 1593. (Administrative documents of Korea, an East Asian country, at the time were written in Classical Chinese just like Latin in Europe, but when targeting the common people, not a few were written in Korean.)

Even though the document is written in pure Hangul (the Korean alphabet), it is difficult to read because the vocabulary and grammar are somewhat different from modern Korean, but the factor that makes this text more difficult to read is that all words are written attached together without spaces.

The custom of spacing every word in Korean was influenced by Western languages, and it was introduced by a Scottish missionary after Korea opened its ports to Western countries. Now I don't even want to imagine Korean that doesn't use spaces between words.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 month ago
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Why did the communists in the Sinosphere dislike Chinese characters?

I am not trying to make any value judgment.I just thought it was fascinating that these similar historical patterns keep appearing, and I was simply curious about the reason. I am also someone who doesn't like Chinese characters.(I am Korean, and Classical Chinese class made me dislike Chinese characters.)

First of all, since Chinese, Korean, Japanese, and Vietnamese all belong to different language families, their basic vocabulary and grammar show distinct differences. What connects these languages is higher-level and abstract vocabulary, most of which consists of Chinese-character-based words. Although each country has evolved its own pronunciation of Chinese characters, they are cognates after all, so we often feel that they sound similar when compared one-to-one, and there is quite a lot of shared vocabulary when looking from the perspective of Chinese characters.(Of course, communication between these languages is impossible.)

This is because Classical Chinese exerted a tremendous influence in East Asia as an academic and administrative language, much like Latin in Europe. Classical Chinese is a literary language derived from ancient Chinese and is a separate language from Mandarin, and since it has enormous differences in vocabulary and grammar from modern Chinese, anyone requires separate study to read it.

Since Japanese developed its notation system with the parallel use of Chinese characters in mind, discarding Chinese characters is not only impossible but also unnecessary to mention in this topic (they sometimes write even their native words in Chinese characters), whereas Korean historically had many documents written only in Hangul, their own alphabet, so they could discard Chinese characters if they wanted to.

Therefore, both North and South Korea abandoned the use of Chinese characters. However, South Korea's abandonment of Chinese characters is relatively recent, and until the 1990s, Chinese characters remained even in daily life. And although priority is still given to Hangul administratively, using Chinese characters as auxiliary characters is still permitted. (As can be seen from the case of North Korea, it would be possible to completely eliminate Chinese characters, but there is no particular reason to do so.)

However, as soon as North Korea became independent, they began eliminating Chinese characters from daily life, and they do not permit the use of Chinese characters even in administrative documents. Still, North Korea is a country that, like South Korea, still teaches Classical Chinese in schools.

Vietnam even went so far as to create numerous ideograms for their native language in addition to Chinese characters, but they adopted the Latin alphabet after being colonized by France. From this point on, Chinese characters disappeared from daily life, just like the two Koreas of today. However, South Vietnam continued to teach Classical Chinese in schools as a classical language. In contrast, North Vietnam abolished Classical Chinese as a school subject. Since North Vietnam won the Vietnam War, Vietnamese people cannot read even the most basic Chinese characters.

A similar historical pattern can be felt in China as well. China was suffering from severe illiteracy, and as a solution to this, they undertook the work of drastically simplifying Chinese characters. Mao Zedong once considered discarding Chinese characters and adopting the Latin alphabet like modern Vietnam, but ultimately settled on the comparatively less radical approach of simplifying Chinese characters. This character reform was very radical, to the point where even Japanese people or some Koreans who know Chinese characters well sometimes have trouble deciphering China's Chinese characters. (Reading each character does not mean you can understand the meaning of the entire sentence, but in Chinese, there are many times when it is impossible for other East Asians to even tell what that Chinese character is.) Compared to Taiwan, which continues to use traditional Chinese characters, the Chinese characters that China uses look somewhat empty to anyone.

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u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 month ago

What is an idiom that is common across your entire cultural sphere?

>To swear an oath of brotherhood in a peach orchard.

In the 3rd century, the Chinese historian Chen Shou wrote "the Records of the Three Kingdoms", a history book covering the Three Kingdoms period from the late 2nd century to the late 3rd century, when three kingdoms competed for control over China. Based on this history book, the 14th-century Chinese novelist Luo Guanzhong wrote the novel "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", and this novel exerted a truly tremendous influence on the Sinosphere (Korea, China, Japan, and Vietnam).

This idiom came from the scene where Liu Bei, Zhang Fei, and Guan Yu became sworn brothers, and it means that multiple people pledge brotherhood and strengthen their resolve. In fact, this is a story created by Luo Guanzhong, and such an event did not happen in actual history.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 month ago

Are sports riots common in your country?

You can never see them in Korea. 🤷‍♂️

The only case that comes to mind is when baseball fans angry at the game results set fire to a team bus in the 1980s, but since the 2010s, with the influx of family spectators in professional baseball and female spectators currently making up more than half of the audience, there has been a positive change as the rough sports viewing culture has disappeared.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 month ago

If your country has been colonized, is there a sport you adopted from the colonizing country?

And currently, baseball dominates the professional sports market in South Korea.

What is unique about the Korean baseball world is that they changed several Japanese-style baseball terms to American-style terms or created new Korean-style terms on the grounds that they were remnants of colonial rule, but it is actually clear how deeply rooted this sport has become in South Korea.

u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 month ago

Can you notice that the other person is a foreigner just by their accent?

These are stories of experiences of Koreans living abroad that are commonly posted on Korean internet communities.

In China, even if you pronounce Chinese terribly, the other person doesn't realize you are a foreigner and thinks of you as someone who cannot speak the standard language well. This is because there are many dialects in China that are mutually unintelligible from region to region (they are practically separate languages, but China treats them as dialects for political reasons). And later on, Koreans living in China reach a point where they only pronounce words well enough for the other person to understand and don't care about sounding like a native.

In Japan, if your Japanese pronunciation is not good, you get caught immediately as a foreigner. Japanese and Korean have commonalities such as the same word order and Sino-derived words in most advanced vocabulary, making it easy to learn each other's language, but because they basically belong to different language families, there are significant differences in phonology. There are characteristics of Japanese spoken by Koreans and characteristics of Korean spoken by Japanese.

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u/Agile-Shallot3546 — 1 month ago