I've been isolated from the gender discourse from quite some time and I was recently shocked how it became normalized to punch down on struggling and mentality ill men.
First problem i'd like to mention is the use od the term "nice guy". This label very rightfully belongs to the field of popular psychology, aka bullshit psychology for individuals without the inteligence and empathy to pursue real-life studies of human psyche. "Nice guy" should mean someone entitled, not just any man who expresses insecurity, jealousy, vulnerability or any "beta male" behavior. Idk about cases with real people but the fact that e.x. Leonard from Big Bang Theory is labeled as "nice guy" nowadays says a lot about the society. I even heard vile comments that "it's always the nice guys who are the rapists" when it's clear that this label is very flexible and can include any "undesirable" man.
Second of all, the general culture on reddit; I am an extremely progressive person, but I will never accept bullying and bodyshaming with terms like "low value male" that is appearently tolerated on some subs, even if it is used to call out "flaws" like height or penis size that no man can reasonably influence. Male mental health subs have been attacked many times by these extremists who call any male vulnerability or venting incel behavior.
And lastly, as a young man suffering from Aspergers syndrome and anxiety disorder (that is into guys not women), I find comments about "self-inflicted" male loneliness nauseating. I am not saying the "loneliness epidemic" only affects men, but most men who struggle with loneliness to a pathological degree have some underlying condition that kind of explains it; and no, that condition is very often NOT simply "being an incel". Just because I have mental conditions that have been toxically associated with being "creep" or "coward" if a man suffers from them does not mean that I am one!