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AIO My sister and husband text privately and spend time together. Should I be concerned?

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OOP: u/Medical-Angle-549

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^(June 15, 2026)


AIO My sister and husband text privately and spend time together. Should I be concerned?

My husband and my sister have developed what I think is an unusually close relationship, and I’m trying to figure out if I’m overreacting.

My husband travels for work to the area where my sister lives, so they have opportunities to see each other when he is in town.

Some examples:

  • They text directly about travel plans, shopping, TV shows, and random family/life stuff.

  • My sister has gone shopping one-on-one with him before and bought clothes for him because she remembered his size.

  • She frequently sends me photos of outfits, earrings, dresses, etc. asking for my opinion, but often it feels more like she wants validation than advice.

  • Once she modeled a dress in front of me, my husband, and her husband. Her husband complimented her, but she immediately asked my husband what he thought.

  • She has privately texted my husband asking when he’ll be in town and told him when she would be away, seemingly so he wouldn’t visit when she was gone.

  • When my husband mentioned a possible birthday-week visit, she got very excited and immediately said she would start looking for reservations.

  • She often seems unusually interested in my husband’s reaction to clothes or style choices.

  • My husband says nothing inappropriate has happened and that it’s all harmless.

Am I overreacting, or does this sound like emotional flirtation / blurred boundaries? If you were in my shoes, would this bother you?

 

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Have you talked to your husband about how uncomfortable this makes you feel? >Yea once I kind of hinted at something kind of mild like what are you texting so much about and he said “relax”. > >I have not flat out called him out on it. Just every time I remotely suggest something he either ignores my comment or dismisses it. One time I brought up going with he did not shut it down but then it turned into oh I will be going for only 1 day quick turn around.


Have you read their messages? What did you find? >Yes I have and they both seem complicit. Its like watching a tennis match with the texts back and forth inside jokes but nothing obvious like everthinh has some > >Plausible deniability. > >They did but one could read them and think nothing obvious > >Great advice! Some of what I have seen in texts spills into her making minor annoyances about her husband or issues with the kids but nothing openly blatant. But I can’t say I have seen all their texts. I also don’t understand why they have a private lane when in other instances I’m in chats and it’s usually when she’s sending photos of herself. If she sent that in private it would be an open flag but instead all > >Those texts include me.


Do they spend time alone together? >He works quit a bit. They do things together with him but seems like a a lot without him. Also the texts never mention him in the plans. Like he will meet her at a mall just the two of them spend time together then meet him. > >They mostly hang out alone then meet up with BIL but it’s so orchestrated to avoid him. > >Thank you this is helping at least confirm I’m not insane. As to your question they never tell me ahead of time. But one time he left his busness meeting early i could see he was heading tomher neighbohood. I called multiple times and he did not pick up. Later it came out they met up for coffee hung out shopped and then met her husband for dinner.


Does the texting increase around his work trips? >I feel terrible for saying but I check his phone. Aside from a few blips once a month a funny clip and small chat it ramps up just before one of his trips. > >Not so much missing sections if anything the texting escalates when he’s there and I’m > >Going to sound insane but feels like they are giddy and trying to find ways to get together. On one shopping excursion she had him take pictures of her trying on clothes. Nothing too sexy mostly winter clothing but she got all her make up on and hair done up.


How often do they shop together? Does your husband even like shopping? >They went shopping together multiple times and always alone. > >He hates shopping that’s something I did not connect the dots on I have to pull teeth and yet every time he’s out there they just happen to end up at mall together.


What does your brother-in-law know? Why haven't you talked to him? >Yea she’s married I don’t know what he thinks worried if I say something to him I might escalate and everyone will think I’m Insane. > >We are all in our 40s. Her husband and don’t have that kind of open line of communication and he certainly has not hinted anything to me. He kind of worships her and does whatever she says. So not sure if the light bulb is not going on but I can’t go to him about this without more concrete evidence. It’s hard to explain I worry I will look like an insane possesseve jelous person and im not but all of it seems > >Just off without a real smoking gun. They both play it like this is just normal. > >No bc i know based on our relationship she will 100% say im insane and jealous. As for her husband i dont have a read on his take and it could get ugly fast if im reading this the wrong way.


Why do you believe your sister wants your husband's attention? >He has control of his travel schedule to a certain extent. She will include him on some of the photos. They would include her husband but why not include him in the texts for celebration. Her text are always like it’s bw the two of them. Like they are playing a couple. He doesn’t hide them but as I said they have this plausible deniability something feels off but I will look like a jealous B if I say something that’s the difficult part. > >I never ask her husband. One time she tried two tops asked all of us which we Liked better we all gave response my husband mentioned the one the others voted down she wore what my husband picked and then I caught her saying to him see what I picked.


Did your sister invite your husband to stay at her house? Do you think they're having a physical affair?

>He stays at hotel but I found a private message where she told him he should stay at their house. > >He said thanks but I need to be close to the office. > >The shopping started about a year and a half ago. But I don’t think they having physical intimacy I think it might be emotional and could get to the physical.


Has your sister always been competitive with you? Why haven't you confronted your sister?

>Older than me and yea competitive > >She is going to say I’m insecure and crazy



Update - after 12 days

^(June 27, 2026)


AIO UPDATED-My sister and husband text privately and spend time together. Should I be concerned?

Since my last post, I found out more context that made me feel even less like this was “just one weird moment.”

I learned from my niece that during the purse-shopping trip, my sister encouraged her son to leave and go with his sister, which left my husband and my sister shopping together. My husband then took multiple photos of my sister trying on purses. My niece also later mentioned that the sales associate assumed they were husband and wife. My sister corrected her, but apparently found the whole thing funny and entertaining.

I’ve seen the purse photos now, and they do not feel like “quick shopping reference photos.” They feel like my husband photographing my sister modeling.
There was also another visit where my husband stayed at my sister and her husband’s house. After her husband left, my sister did her hair and makeup, modeled a winter coat, and my husband offered to take photos so she could see it. Later that night, when she was dressed up for an event with her husband, she sent my husband a photo of herself with no comment attached.

Again, any one thing could maybe be explained away. But added to the private texting, the skirt saga, the jeans gift, the dress/top opinions, the way she seems to care about his reaction to what she wears, and the fact that she keeps creating these little moments where he becomes her photographer or appearance judge it started to feel like a pattern I could not unsee.
So I talked to my sister first.

I told her I needed to discuss something awkward, and I tried to be calm. I said I was uncomfortable with the texting, the outfit photos, the shopping, and the way she seems to use my husband as an audience for how she looks.
She immediately got very calm. Almost too calm.
She said, “He’s my brother-in-law. We get along. I didn’t realize that was a crime now.”

I told her it was not that they get along. It was how they get along.
She asked, “How do we get along?”

I said, “You use him as an audience.”

That was when her tone changed. She gave this small smile and said, “Or maybe I’m just comfortable in my body and you’re uncomfortable watching someone else be comfortable in hers.”

I told her that was unfair.

She said, “Then what exactly was I doing? Modeling too aggressively? Wearing leggings at you?”

I said I was trying to set a boundary.

She said, “No. You’re asking me to shrink so you can feel bigger.”

That one really hurt.

When I brought up the photo she sent him after the coat situation, she said, “I sent a photo in a conversation we were already having.”

I said, “With no comment.”

She said, “Because it didn’t need one.”

Then she said, “Maybe you should try sending him photos. Maybe then you wouldn’t be so worried about him looking at mine.”

I told her that was unnecessary, and she said, “So is accusing your sister of trying to tempt your husband because he took a few pictures while shopping.”

I asked if she would stop texting him privately about clothes, outfits, shopping, and photos.

She said, “Stop what, exactly? Existing around him? Being friendly? Letting him take a photo if I ask? Laughing when something is funny?”

I said, “You know what I mean.”

She said, “No, I don’t think you know what you mean.”

The conversation ended with her saying, “If your issue is with your husband looking, talk to your husband. If your issue is that I look good, that’s not mine to fix.”

That was probably the most painful part, because she made me feel insane and jealous for noticing something that still feels real to me.

She did not apologize. She did not agree to stop. She basically framed the entire thing as my insecurity and said I was trying to control a normal family friendship because I felt threatened.

I walked away feeling worse, not better.

And honestly, that conversation left me more confused.

So now should I have a conversation with my husband….? wtf do i say I thought confronting her with the facts would be easy but I felt stupid petty and jealous. I need a sanity check.

 

COMMENTS

Lanky_Emu_1184 > girl if that was my sister I’m slapping her across the face, but besides that, my sister would never be like that towards me because she doesn’t have this underlying competition that your sister seems to be having with you. Did you guys grow up getting compared a lot? > > OOP >> We did >> >> Noonull >>> Your sister wants the attention you get from him. She might not necessarily want him, she just wants to take what you have or she likes having the ability to do it. >>> >>> Talk to her husband and yours and tell them the boundary. If they are okay with what she’s doing, then you know that you need to pack it up and leave and go NC with her. He should not be entertaining her and her husband should not be happy with her toeing the line. She will escalate it for fun now that she knows you don’t like it. >>> >>> OOP >>>> I think you’re right although she has done a few things that lead me to believe she might be attracted to him.


Suki_13 > NOR. Your sister is a classic narcissist. Personally, the older I get the more I distance myself from energy vampires like this and people who bring nothing to the table, even if it’s family. That being said, I would have a heart to heart with your husband and find out what his motivation is behind all of this and let him know you feel disrespected. His response will tell you all you need to know. On a sidenote, does your sister not know how to use a mirror?! > > OOP >> 🙏🏻and such a good point 🤣



kittendollie13 > NOR. If I remember your original post, your sister was recently divorced or was in the middle of one. She is a shark going after your husband, and she is a conceited b&$"ch. I can't tell just how clueless your husband is or if he is putting on an act but both of y'all need to block your sister. > > OOP >> No she is not divorced or divorcing but don’t know if that’s in the works that she has not told me.


swhertzberg > I feel like there is a big difference between OP's husband using his phone to take pictures, vs OP's sister in law handing her phone to him and asking him to take pictures. > > OOP >> I had not pinpointed this but I think you are 100% on why it bothers me. She’s letting him take photos that he can revisit. That’s going on my list of arguments

 


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I [24 F] am the daughter of a woman who had a long term affair with a married man (my father). My FMIL hates me and my mom for this and is trying to manipulate my fiance [25 M] into leaving me. Not sure what to do and I need advice.

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I [24 F] am the daughter of a woman who had a long term affair with a married man (my father). My FMIL hates me and my mom for this and is trying to manipulate my fiance [25 M] into leaving me. Not sure what to do and I need advice.

This is my first and probably only post (barring an update).

So, basically, I am the child of an affair. My mom fell in love with and got knocked up (with me) by a guy who was already married.

My dad would periodically visit my mom and me until I was about 4 which is when his wife found out about my mom. We never saw him again. Once in awhile I think he sent some child support checks but I'm not sure.

I barely remember him since I was really young when he left me and my mom and he never visited much (while I was awake or around) anyway. I don't think he really was interested in me, just my mom.

My mom had two jobs to support us. One at a fast food joint during the day and the other at a strip club, which I didn't find out about until I was 16 (she lied and told me she had another job at another restaurant at night). I am fairly certain my mother was also a prostitute on the side but I've never confirmed and frankly I don't want to know. She had frequent boyfriends which she would mooch off of until she got tired of their shit or they got tired of hers.

Anyway, fast forward to present day. I am engaged to the most wonderful man in the world after dating for 4 years and planning a wedding about 8 months from now. My mother still works as a stripper and lives with her current boyfriend who is honestly a sweet guy but is also a deadbeat and alcoholic.

My fiance's mother is not so wonderful. She found out of course about me and my mom's background (and present occupation). And she hates both of us.

She's telling Mike (my fiance) not to marry me because I'm the product of adultery and I grew up in a home where cheating is viewed as acceptable and permissible, and therefore I will most likely cheat on Mike and he will have to get paternity tests on any children I have so he's not stuck with some other man's baby.

She called my mom a "harlot", a "slut" and "no good man stealing trash."

Mike's mother has been married twice and both of her husband's cheated on her, the first one with a stripper, so I can sort of understand why Mike's mom is kind of paranoid and doesn't look with fondness on me or my mom.

Mike is upset with the way his mom talks to and about me and my mom but doesn't know what to do. It's his mom and he loves her and up until now they had a really good relationship. But she doesn't understand why her son, who could have a "good" girl, would settle for "someone like me."

For the record I graduated with honors, have a great job, support myself and have never cheated on Mike or the other boyfriends I've had.

I loathe cheating and do not think it's ok at all.

As for my mom she was of course deeply hurt by what my FMIL said. I'll be the first to admit what my mom did/has done in the past is not ok. But I don't hate my mom. She's just a very silly and immature woman who is lacking in common sense but is not malicious in anyway. She's actually very sweet and giving most of the time. But she has terrible taste in men and has made a lot of poor life decisions.

She says she knows her affair with my dad was wrong but love is love and she couldn't help who she loved. She still views my dad as "the one who got away" and "the love of her life." I think he's the only man she's really ever loved. I remember after my dad disappeared her crying her eyes out every night for months and drinking herself into a stupor.

Obviously she's delusional and has never really learned from her mistakes. She lacks basic life skills and has always relied on her looks (she is very very beautiful) and charm to get by in life. But I know she did her best to be a parent to me and I know she loves me.

Is it too much for me to ask my FMIL to treat my mother with respect? Or me for that matter? I'm not sure what I can ask of Mike who feels caught in the middle and isn't sure what to do (he's never had a serious argument or been truly angry with his mother before). He hates what she says but it's clearly messing with his head because his mom has never been "wrong" before, which he knows she is now.

What can I ask, and what SHOULD I ask of my fiance, and how should I respond to Mike's mom? I want to just cut her out of my life, but I'm not sure that's fair to ask of Mike. I want him to be happy too. I have a short temper though and it takes everything inside me not to explode at his mom and just verbally rip her to shreds, especially when she said those things to my mom's face.

TL;DR Child of an affair here. My mom was/is also a stripper and prostitute. My fiance's mother, who has been cheated on many times, hates me and my mother and is trying to convince my fiance I will cheat on him and that he can do better. What can I say to her, what's fair to ask of my fiance?

 

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RememberKoomValley > Your fiance needs to be the one who responds, not you. He needs to make it clear to her that an attack on you is an attack on him, that the two of you are one united force now and the things she's saying are inexcusable. > > If he doesn't do this, you really must not marry him. Because it won't get better, and she'll eventually do everything she can to pry your children from you. > > OOP >> I know. It's just hard because he's never really been a Mamma's boy before but is kind of acting like it now. I know he's torn because they are very close and it sucks for him that someone he loves and respects so much is bashing on the person he loves most in life. >> >> It's hard for him to reconcile the two in his mind. But he knows I cannot and will not marry him if he doesn't do something about this soon. I won't be with a coward who chooses his mom over me. >> >> I'm just not sure how much is fair to ask. I just need him to do something >> >> RememberKoomValley >>> It's fair to ask him to sit her down and say "This stops, it stops completely and it stops now, or not only are you not invited from the wedding, you're disinvited from my life." >>> >>> OOP >>>> I could definitely get on board with that. I wouldn't mind never seeing her again.


shelbyknits >>Mike is upset with the way his mom talks to and about me and my mom but doesn't know what to do. > > Your fiancee needs to stand up to his mom. I'm sure he loves her, but presumably he loves you too and he needs to tell her to knock it off or neither of you will be seeing her. You both need to leave if you're visiting and she starts in on you, and he needs to hang up the phone if he's talking to her and she starts in. > > Do not marry him until he's able to stand up to you, or you'll be putting up with this your entire marriage. > > OOP >> Oh I know. I certainly won't. I'm just not sure how much is fair to ask or how to negotiate interactions with an openly hostile MIL. >> >> It's also hard because I can't help but feel she has a teensy bit of a point. Plenty of people on Reddit would call my mother the exact same thing.


Final Update - after 4 days

^(November 13, 2015)


[UPDATE] I [24 F] am the daughter of a woman who had a long term affair with a married man (my father). My FMIL hates me and my mom for this and is trying to manipulate my fiance [25 M] into leaving me. Not sure what to do and I need advice

Sorry for how long it took to post an update but I didn't expect my post to get so much attention and it took awhile for it to come off the front page.

I want to thank everyone who took the time to comment, even the haters and just generally overall rude and tacky people. Most of you were kind and supportive and helped me think the whole thing through.

I really didn't appreciate all the nasty comments directed at my mother, she's really a kind and sweet woman who I dearly love who has made a few bad choices in life and is too immature/emotionally damaged to see it. At least she didn't abandon me like my "dad" did. That was also the first and only married man she has ever had any kind of relationship with. However I know this is Reddit and a subset of this community just loves any opportunity to judge and bash women for any mistake and think they deserve eternal damnation. I guess it was to be expected.

Also clarifying, Mike's dad was actually my FMIL's SECOND husband. Her first husband cheated on her with a stripper but that is NOT Mike's dad. Mike's dad also cheated but it wasn't with a "sex worker." It was a mutual friend or coworker or something like that, not sure on the details. Mike is No Contact with his father and does not like to talk about him so I don't ask.

Anyways, on to the actual update. I actually showed Mike the post. He was quiet but kind, asked me to let him think on it and then cooked me my favorite dinner and drew me a bath with scented oil and candles. About a day after I posted Mike asked me to sit and talk with him.

He started off the bat by sincerely apologizing. He said the things his mother said to me and my mom were so awful and brazen he was taken aback and froze up in response. He said that yes his mom has made the odd snippy comment about me or my mom but he's been good about deflecting the comment and changing the subject. He just never expected an explosion of that magnitude.

He then apologized for not addressing his mother sooner but it's been so hard for him to wrap his mind around it. That he deeply loves and respects his mother and it has been so hard to think about the implications of her actions and what it could mean for his relationship with her. However, his life is with me now and that if he thinks he's grown up enough to get married he needs to put me first, regardless of his mother.

I will say I can understand why Mike is so close with his mom. I'll be the first to say I do not like my FMIL but she has many admirable qualities about her. She's very tough and ambitious and strove to make Mike have a happy and successful life despite two failed marriages and being a single mom. She is quite successful career wise. She's just too closed minded and controlling for me to ever like her much.

Anyhoo Mike said that none of what his mom said affected his view on me, that I'm amazing and beautiful and just perfect and he doesn't care what my background is, he's still marrying me and that will make him the happiest man on the planet (aww).

Mike asked me to sit right there on the sofa. He then got his phone and called his mother. I'll relay the main conversation.

Mike: "Mom, hi, I'm calling because there is something I need to talk to you about. It's about what you've been saying about my fiancee and my future mother-in-law and what you said to their faces."

FMIL: starts to argue

Mike: NO. Stop right now. I'm not going to listen to this bullshit anymore. Look, I know how much Tom and Dad hurt you. And I'm sorry about that. I really am. But taking it out on (my name) and her mom won't fix it or make it better. Jezebel (my mother) isn't the one who cheated on you. And (my name) didn't exactly choose to be born into the life she's had. Don't you think if she had a choice she'd have done different?"

FMIL: starts to argue and yell

Mike: "MOM. SHUT UP AND LISTEN."

FMIL: silence (Mike's never talked that way to her ever).

Mike: "(My name) is MORE than good enough for me. She's smart, successful, witty, ambitious and beautiful. She has a good heart and is going to do amazing things. She's all this IN SPITE of her 'past.' And you know what mom? If you think she'll cheat on me because of her parents relationship, then I guess I'm bound to cheat on her too because MY dad was a cheat and my mom had the bad judgement to marry two cheaters in a row."

FMIL: "What? But...there were consequences! You weren't born from it. And I got them both out of my life...I never said it was ok! It's different! You saw how it was bad to cheat, she was raised thining it's ok" (Mike said she sounded really shaken up)

Mike: "And (my name) DIDN'T have consequences? Because her dad cheated he abandoned her! Because of infidelity she had to grow up without a father! Do you think (my name) WANTED that?!?"

FMIL: silence. Starts to speak

Mike: "No. This conversation is finished. If you still want a place at the wedding you will drop this topic today, immediately, forever. You don't have to love (my name) or her mother. You don't even have to like them. But you will treat BOTH of them with respect. If you don't you won't have a place in my life or the lives of any kids (my name) and I have. (My name) is my friend and partner and she will be my wife. Anything said against her is also said against me. And I won't have someone around who is disrespectful and cruel for no reason to me and her. Her mom is going to be my mom. I plan on calling Jezebel 'mom' because that's what she will be."

FMIL: silence then starts crying (My MIL NEVER cries)

Mike: "You owe (my name) an apology. You also owe her mother one but I can't control that. But I can control what happens in my house. I will not talk to you until you have apologized to (my name) and are ready to be civil to her and her mother." hangs up

I was and still am speechless. My fiance is the kindest person in the world but he stood up for me AND my mother without backing down.

Oh and it doesn't stop there. Mike then called my mom and apologized for his mother's behavior and said he had talked to her and it shouldn't happen again but if it does to please not hesitate to tell him. He also asked if he could start calling her mom, and my mom said of course. I know this meant the world to her. He also sent her a big bouquet of flowers to her for her birthday which she should be getting sometime today or tomorrow.

My mom texted me later saying she wished she could have been loved like I am at any point in her life and to please not take what I had for granted. She said she is so happy for me and thinks Mike is the most wonderful guy in the world. I got all choked up and texted her back a thank you and that I thought so too.

Still haven't heard from FMIL but neither of us expect to for awhile. She hasn't communicated with Mike at all either which tells us she took what he said very hard. It'll probably take awhile for her to recover from it. My guess is she'll probably feel like I "stole her son from her" and have "corrupted him" but I guess that's what happens when you marry a conniving sin spawn like me. I really don't care and it isn't my problem. As long as she keeps her opinions about me and my mom to herself, I'll tolerate her for Mike's sake and any future kids we have. I know for a fact if she steps out of line Mike won't have any qualms about cutting her out so I'm not worried about it.

Anyways, thanks again Reddit, I wanted to share my happy update with you since most of ya'll were so good to me. Now getting ready to have lunch with Mike and start planning our wedding (bless his heart lol).

TL;DR Mike apologized to me and my mother, and gave his mom a hard core talking to. Called her out on her BS and said he won't talk to her until I get an apology and that she is to never criticize me or my mother again unless she wants the boot from our lives. Sent my mom flowers for her birthday and now we have a wedding to plan!

EDIT: Alright, taking this post down. Getting real tired of all the PM's and posts. My first one I had a bunch of misogynists, this time I've got people saying it's fake. Haters gonna hate. Sorry my writing isn't good enough, I don't know what you all wanted. Thank you for those who have been supportive and helpful. I'm happy to be with Mike and planning my wedding and don't need any more negativity than already exists. Congrats, you got your wish, I am signing off forever and there will be no post wedding update because I am sick to death of all the assholes on here being absolute dicks to me and my mother, and saying Mike is a figment of my imagination because he's "too good to be real." Ciao.

 

COMMENTS

ihaveasourpuss > Mike is a fucking stand-up guy, I tell you what! You've got a great fiance, OP. Best of luck to you! > > > OOP >> Oh I know. I wasn't exaggerating when I said he was the greatest guy in the world in my previous post :)

 


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u/AlabasterSting — 13 days ago
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I was written up for having a visible thong outside of work

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I was written up for having a visible thong outside of work

In my free time, I love going to this nightclub by my apartment building. They have parties monthly based on different eras such as the 80s, 90s, and the 2000s. In the past year, I have gone to three 2000s parties, and the guests attending are supposed to wear things that represent fashion trends from that decade. All three times, I wore a pair of those ultra low-rise jeans that were so in back then and paired that with a visible thong (whale tail) as this was a trend back then as well. Well, all three times, the photographer at the club asked me to pose for a photo and I agreed. The photos were posted on their website.

I’m not sure how, but somehow HR at my work has found the photos. They called me into their office, showed me the photos, and wrote me up for "behavior that puts the company in a bad light," as she said. I asked the director of HR if she was sure she was able to do this and she said that at the last management meeting it was discussed and the photos were shown to the management team before this action was taken. She also told me that the write-up and photos would go in my file and that I was not allowed to have a visible thong outside of work.

I have a huge problem with all of this and cannot believe that this has happened. I have had so many thoughts about this:

  1. Why was the entire management team, including the men, shown photos of my underwear?

  2. Why can I not show my thong at these parties if I want to?

  3. Is a visible thong at a nightclub even a big deal or am I crazy? Have they seen what other women wear?

  4. Can they write me up for this?

  5. How do I get the photos removed from my file? I really don’t want future managers/directors and HR to see my underwear in my employee file for the rest of my time at this workplace!


Final update - after 7 months and 10 days

^(June 15, 2026)


update: I was written up for having a visible thong outside of work

I met with HR again and pushed back on the policy. They declined to show me any policy that is even written down except a generic policy that says we cannot engage in highly offensive social media activity. I asked what that has been used for in the past and the only things they could point to were an employee badmouthing the employer and some racist posts. Apparently my thong is at this level of offensiveness.

I then asked them to take the photos out of my personal file and they declined.

In April, a new manager took over my department and made an inappropriate joke about seeing my underwear and winked at me. I went to HR about it and again nothing was done. I did try to make the point about men’s underwear, but they said they haven’t seen any men exposing their underwear who work here and that “men’s underwear isn’t sexualized in the same way.” They then told me they would be keeping track of my internet presence and all concerning photos would be reviewed in management meetings.

At this point, I started looking for a new job. I found one almost right away but they don’t need me to start until mid-June. I gave early notice but with an end date at the end of the first week of June. They told me they wanted me to stay and saw a future, but that if I have this bad of an attitude then I can just leave in June.

At this point, I got really mad. I actually used up a week of vacation days, which they allowed me to do. I decided to have some fun and get revenge if they are so concerned about my underwear. I attended the club five nights that week and each time requested that my photo be taken. I didn’t really care about each night’s theme. But I was photographed with my thong sticking out higher than ever and my jeans frankly lower than ever. I was photographed from my back side in a dress that is sheer at the back, and I wore the tiniest of g-strings. I was also photographed wearing a sheer mesh top with pasties on underneath. The next night I entered a “sexy slip in slide contest” in a very small bikini and was photographed a bunch of times, and the final night I was photographed wearing a top that showed a massive amount of cleavage.

They were indeed keeping track, and they gave me a warning again when I got back. They said they reviewed it at the management meeting again and I told them I didn’t care. The funny part is they still didn’t fire me, as apparently they need me to do some Important work before I go. At least I got my anger out of my system. I cannot understand how unreasonable they are. Just because something is available on the internet doesn’t mean it has anything to do with work. Nobody is going to know where I work anyway, and nobody looks poorly on a company because of stuff like this. My job isn’t sensitive in any way.

 


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u/AlabasterSting — 21 days ago
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My gf has gone M.I.A.

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OOP: u/lostandwandering1

Published on: r/relationship_advice

Story is: CONCLUDED

Story timeline


Main Post

^(September 02, 2021)


My gf has gone M.I.A.

We have been together coming up to 3 years. I(m35) her(f37). We met after she had moved back to our hometown about 4 years ago.

Some background. She, Mary, lived with a guy, let's say Bob who is in his 40's, for over ten years. They met at their work place. She moved to his city for a job after college. He had 3 girls under 7yo at the time. He went thru a bad marriage, then the mom disappears after the divorce. She meets this guy, they find time to date then she moves in with him. She is crazy in love. Then for 10 years or so she was essentially the mom and wife, without being official. Mary wanted to get married and have her own child(ren). Bob did not want to rush into another marriage. Eventually, he just told her he never wants to get married again or have children. This of course crushes Mary. She felt she lost 10 years in which to have her own children even though she loved Bob's. They called her mom. Mary breaks it off, moves back to this side of the country to start over.

We met one night at a get together with mutual friends she had reconnected. We started dating then committed to each other. It's been almost 3 years, we have talked marriage and children, I have none. Late bloomer. We moved in together a year next month. We had talked of getting married late next year. I have not proposed but we have ring shopped.

Mary has kept in touch with the girls over the last few years. They gossip and ask Mary for advice. She has not been in contact with Bob in any regular way. Just birthday wishes etc. Bob has not dated seriously since Mary left. This weekend, the oldest daughter is getting married. She asked Mary to come help her with the last minute preparations and such. The wedding planning is set but the daughter wanted her, Mary, to be there as the mother of the bride. Nothing to do with the ceremony but just be there for her. Mary asked what I thought. I knew she wanted to be there so I told her I had not objections. I had to work during the week so I could not go. Mary has been there since Monday night. She contacted me when landing and that night before bed. Then Tuesday, good morning. Since then nothing. I have texted and called. No response. The texts were read.

Finally I get a text this morning. She mentions how crazy busy she has been. No mention of why no response. She reconnected with old friends and of course Bob. There has been a lunch and dinner of some sort each day. Friday night is the rehearsal dinner. Ceremony and reception on Saturday. Flight home is Sunday afternoon. I asked if she wanted me to fly out late Friday night to be there with her. She said no. She thought dragging me into her old life would not be fair to me. I asked her to text me before bed and in the morning as we did Monday night/Tuesday morning. She said ok. Then for some reason I asked how her hotel room was. I got no answer.

Finally, about an hour later I got a phone call from her. She wanted me to know that she cancelled the hotel and is staying at Bob's house. They have an extra room since the bride moved out. They just put the 2 remaining daughters back into one room. I asked how long was this planned. She said the daughters mentioned it as a possibility when everything was being planned. They asked their dad and he had no problem with it. She cancelled her hotel last weekend but never mentioned it to me because she did not want to make a big deal of it. She just wanted to be with her girls. I told her that she is being sketchy. She started crying at this point. I apologized for the name calling and told her we can talk about it later.

I don't want to ruin her wedding plans but I am very hurt. Not to mention suspicious. Do I have this right? Have I let my imagination run wild?

Edit: Mary just text me, she wants me at the wedding. I have to find a flight out on Friday night.

Edit 2: After seeing some comments, I have decided not to go to the wedding. I texted her I was not coming and that I will decide when she gets home whether we have a relationship still.

 

COMMENTS

reticenthuman >A lot of ppl are saying she's shacking up with her ex... But isn't she there to be with her (almost) daughters? It's possible that nothing went on although it's not at ALL ok that there wasn't clear communication and honesty on her part. > >Sounds like this is something you guys need to have a good convo about first before some online strangers tell you your relationship is over and advise you to break up. (But I have no experience in this, so what do I know...) > >OOP >>We will talk we she gets back Sunday.


Sauceboss234 >Stopped reading after first 2 paragraphs. > >1 you should have been invited. 2 why is she staying at her ex’s house. 3. 3 years and she doesn’t respect you enough to keep communication up while staying at her ex’s. > >YOU DESERVE BETTER SIR.


Nibiru_realm >Yes you have the right! > >Your girl just stayed with her ex, barely communicated with you, and you have no clue about what she really has been doing. She won't be honest if she did. > >That's so sketchy and you should have a serious talk about this with her. > >If she's crying already, she may just be guilty of doing worse. > >Be careful and look out for yourself. Use your head and leave if you suspect anything.


Update 1 - after 4 days

^(September 06, 2021)


Update: My gf has gone M.I.A..

My gf got back yesterday afternoon. I picked her up at the airport. Once we got home we ordered some take out. I could not wait for dinner to be over. I think she dragged it out as long as she could. She was fidgety, in constant motion so she did not sit down. First it was the stuff from dinner, had to unpack, wanted to get laundry started. I finally took hold of her hands and sat her down.

She immediately started crying. I had not asked her anything. She was blubbering on about how bad she felt about how she mistreated me. I let her go until she calmed down. I started out asking how the girls were doing, howmwas the wedding, what were some of the things she did in then preparations. Did she do anything with the girls that were fun. This seem to calm her down and relax.

Then I asked why she disappeared and did not answer my texts. She says they were busy from the time she landed. She was out for meals and visiting old friends. I asked if the ex was with her during time. He was. So I asked if it felt no time passed since she was hone. She said it did. We went along this vain of questions for a bit.

I asked if she kissed her ex when she arrived. She said they hugged and she kissed his cheek. She said she kissed her friends when they met up. I asked if she held the ex's hand as they went to different places. She had. I then asked, what day did she sleep with him. She started crying so I stayed silent. She asked me why I would ask her that question. I told her she went missing for two days and when we did talk I did not feel she was missing me. I remained quiet. She thought on this and started crying again. She admitted they slept together each night except the first. After we made plans for me the fly out Friday she felt guilty, then when I told her I was not coming she was mad and slept with him the rest of the week.

This is too new, last night but I told her we need to break up. She is talking to family right now to arrange a place to stay. So sometime this week she will be moving out.

 

COMMENTS

tommagnum11 >I am so sorry 😞. > >It sounds as if you handled a terrible situation really well. Her actions are not a reflection on you, they are a reflection on her. > >higglepop >>I can not upvote this hard enough. That is something that's very easy to lose sight of in this situation. >> >>Her actions are not a reflection on you, they are a reflection on her.


PunisherOfDeth >Ugh this sub can be so depressing. Like I wish one of these situations would go right just one time but it feels like it’s always the worst. I’m sorry for you sir, and hope you can get a clean break from her and move on.


BlackStarBlues >I swear, some redditors are clairvoyant. > >I’m sorry this happened, OP. Please please be careful, I beg of you. Do not have sex with this woman ever again unless you want to be paying child support for the next 18 years. > >Stay strong & be good to yourself.


ProliferateZero >So, she was already sleeping with him multiple times, then got “mad” at you and used it as an excuse to continue sleeping with him? > >That’s gotta sting. I think you did the right thing in ending the relationship. I’m sorry.


Update 2 - after 2 weeks (after 10 day from last post)

^(September 16, 2021)


Update 2: My gf has gone m.i.a.

See my profile for previous posts. So, I had broke up with my gf after she revealed she slept with her ex several times while visiting for a wedding. She came over last night to get her remaining things with her father. While he was loading her stuff, which I had boxed up, we talked.

She had been communicating with her girls throughout the time we were together. I knew this. She was a mother figure to them, I get it. She did not talk to ex unless it was a quick wave as he walked past the FaceTime call. Since the beginning of the year, communication picked up due to wedding plans. The ex became a bit more involved as the plans needed to go by him. Eventually, that led to private calls between them.

She missed her family. As the time neared where she would be visiting, the calls increased to the girls and the private chats to the ex. He must have started saying all the right things. Once she landed, she stepped right back into 4 years ago as being a family. Once they slept together, he promised her they would get married and get pregnant. That's all she needed to hear. She would tell me when she got home. When I told her I was flying out that turned the plans upside down.

So this weekend, she is moving back to them. She has quit her job here, she has approached her old job there but nothing is definite. There are plenty of jobs waiting. I have nothing. Isn't that the way it is with cheaters? They go on to live their lives leaving devastation in their wake.

Edit. Everyone says she will be back. I won't take her back. I think she was settling with me. The ex would not marry and wanted no kids. He now says they can get pregnant and marry.. That is why she left. She loves those girls as her own.

 

COMMENTS

Kigichi >He SAYS they can marry and have kids. > >I doubt that he will actually follow through and she will be begging for another chance. > >Nope. > >OOP >>No longer my issue. I hope for her sake he will.


The__Riker__Maneuver >You can take solace in the fact that this is going to blow up in her face massively > >Old boy is simply telling her what she wants to hear because he needs help with his kids and is tired of doing it on his own > >You dodged a bullet my dude > >NatureCarolynGate >>dodged the Battle of Britain


RockYouLikeAMaster >when she come crawling back(i really think that it's when and not if),don't accept her back in your life. > >she already did her choice,and you don't have to accept being someone else's plan b.


Final update - after 5 weeks (after 3 weeks from last post)

^(October 08, 2021)


Last update: My gf has gone M.I.A.

Thank you all for the kind words and support. I last updated a few weeks ago after my ex left. Her dad, I ran into at a store, says she has settled back in with her family. She had tried to contact me but I have blocked her on everything. So her dad was just passing on one last apology. I have been working on myself. Gym, reading, work, friends. I know it just takes time. I really didnt need this last gut punch though. Anyways, thank you, again.

 


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