Reconsidering my MBTI type. Known myself as an INTP and get INTP no matter what test I take, but... (read desc)

I wanted to organize this a bit, so here is a summary of my concerns, followed by the types I suspect I might or might not be. Please give me your own thoughts and let me know what you think.

TL;DR: My strongest 4 functions seem to be Ne (maybe Ni?), Ti, Fi, and Si, in that order. Not sure what that means for me.

I have a very high Fi. I am starting to wonder if I am mistyped, or if I just so happened to unlock the key to a high Fi.

I am unsure as to what I truly am. Every test I take gives back INTP, although there was this one test that gave second-best guesses as well, and it said INFJ. I'm not sure I can relate to the INFJ's desire to change the world. I can respect it, absolutely, and in some ways I am also trying to change the world for the better working as a research psychologist. But...I'm in the job for my own selfish interests first. I love learning and uncovering things. My team researches autism from the perspective and experience of autistic people - I am happy that our research might help autistic people, as autism acceptance is important to me, but I ultimately got into the job to understand myself better and examine humans from almost an alien perspective; and I chose psychology as my college major to try and understand make sense of a painfully confusing world. If it was up to me though, I would have 4+ degrees, all in different things, with infinite time and energy to spend researching and studying various things.

My gut reaction to most things is "is this logical/does this make sense" first, however it often is followed closely by "is this moral/ethical/good as per my own framework".

When I was a child, I was extremely empathetic, well-behaved, and sensitive (and also the subject of severe bullying), much to my own detriment. This got beaten out of me by my early 20s and while I still consider myself an empathetic person, I have had to actively work on not having quite a dark and dismissive idea towards people who are irrational, maliciously ignorant, toxic, etc.

Learning, examining, testing, and discovering are my number one favorite things to do. If I hadn't met my husband, I likely would have spent a life of relative isolation doing nothing but learning things all day, every day.

Why I might be INFP

I can relate heavily to the enjoyment of creative pursuits; I dress quite plainly, but I love fashion, interior design, and general aesthetics as secondary hobbies. I play the sims and enjoy creating a sim with carefully crafted fits and extensive backstories the most. I can also relate to the sensitive, easily hurt part, as well as the empathy. Most importantly, I am very in-tune with my emotions. However, I might not be INFP, because being in-tune to my emotions was something I had to learn through therapy and self-help over the course of about 8 years. What made me finally understand and recognize my emotions was realizing that emotions are just information; I study them the same way I study psychology. Also, my Ti is quite high. I cannot relate to it being my demon function at all lol

Why I might be INFJ

I actually feel like of all my functions, my strongest is Ni or Ne***, which is exactly what it is for INFJ. More than anything else, I learn and lead with Ni; Ti too, but they work in conjunction. For example, a friend of mine is a lawyer and was teaching me law. He handed me a police debrief detailing the probable cause for an arrest and asked me what I thought. I could feel something intuitively was incorrect about it before I could logically piece it together; I used Ni to feel it out (not in an emotional way, like a gut instinct, which is different than an emotion like anger, sadness, etc) and carefully examined it. I then figured out that what he was doing was not actually a crime. This is pretty much my entire life. I know things before I know things.

I might not be an INFJ because they seem to generally have more altruistic desires than me. Again - I do believe it is my job to be a good person and not be some evil monstrosity in the world. However, the INFJs I know all have a much, much larger drive to enact real change in the world. They make it their calling, as if they were born for righteousness. I think I was born for nothing in particular.

Why I might be INTJ

I don't really think I am, but their Fi is much higher up than INTP's. I can't really relate to the Te thought processing very well, though.

Why I might be INTP with a developed Fi

Well, at the end of the day, I simply view my emotions as information to gather. They're nothing more to me than pieces of information about my underlying beliefs and what I need to work on, if applicable. If someone makes me angry by misunderstanding me, then I still have not finished adapting subconsciously to the belief that being misunderstood is inevitable and I can choose to not be upset about it. This might sound like Fi because I said belief, but there is extensive logical analysis behind that belief that would take an eternity to explain. (Also...everyone on earth has beliefs.) Simply put, through all the knowledge I've gathered my entire life, I believe I can live my happiest life by learning to separate someone's actions from their relation to me. Some call it stoicism, I call it cognitive behavioral therapy.

As stated before, my Ti is also quite high, which is in line with INTPs. Unlike Te, I judge everything by information previously gained and acquired, not by heuristics. Te is a nearly foreign way for me to think. I place heavy value on the patterns and modalities I've observed in information and how I organize it based on my own axioms/principles, not on the way this information presents itself in the external world. I still think Ni is my highest function by far, but when I witness how other INTPs describe the way their brain thinks, it is often nearly identical to mine. I am not nearly as proficient at explaining how my thought process works, but it looks something like this, using the example from the aforementioned lawyer story (keep in mind I have ADHD and this is quite literally how it sounds in my brain):

"I see this person was arrested for disorderly conduct. What is the definition of the charge? The officer witnessed a man sitting on a bench in X park playing chess by himself. They approached him and asked him what he was doing. He was combative and said he doesn't speak to officers. Officers requested identifica--identification? For what reason? He said he didn't have to give him his ID...Yes, that is correct. Officers informed him it's illegal to not show his--no it's not. There is no reasonable suspicion. He's done nothing illegal. Where is the reasonable suspicion? Is playing chess in a park illegal? Was it after the park closed? Let me see...That is not stated anywhere in the report. Was he previously trespassed? That isn't mentioned either. No, there's no reasonable suspicion. I think this is an unlawful arrest."

With all of this being said, please let me know what you think and if you have any ideas or input that might solve this issue.

***Edit: I think I got Ni and Ne confused. I read some descriptors of the difference between the two now and want to correct something. I think my Ne might actually be higher, although Ni is also intense; if Ni means "weird sixth sense about everything", at least. I'm a bit of a demon in games like Fortnite because I can just magically tell an enemy is coming over a mountain before seeing or hearing them.

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u/ArminsMother — 5 days ago
▲ 25 r/INTP

Rant about the presumptuousness of others + applying closed-minded stereotypes to large swaths of individuals.

posted a fun little innocent thing in another subreddit vaguely detailing some common stereotypes of INTPs vs my own experience as an INTP, and proceeded to get a barrage of accusations of being INFP instead. It really upset me because there's a certain level of arrogance to accuse someone of being misinformed about their type when I know for absolute certainty I am INTP. Of course, I can relate to many INFP experiences too; they're only one letter away from us. But I am 1000000% confident I'm an INTP.

What also frustrated me is how they claimed that I can't be INTP because I know my emotions and myself very well and cry easily, like at videos of cats being abused or hurt. So many people were saying I can't be INTP because it's "impossible" for an INTP to be self-aware. I'm sorry, what? It is not impossible nor even unlikely. Anyone who's not an undeveloped teenager can become self-aware and compassionate to others. Those are just signs of maturity, not of any specific type.

I had someone try to pick apart my responses to them to "prove" I'm not INTP as well. Because according to them, if I was an INTP, I would only type in a specific way and make specific arguments. In reality, my arguments were perfectly logical, they just didn't want to admit it. They would not accept that "every MBTI type is capable of being mature, well-rounded people" as a logical reasoning. No no, you fool. You must be INFP because you aren't pulling out data spreadsheets and empirical evidence. (Right, because there's totally empirical data on pseudoscience personality tests)

Guys, INTPs can (and often do!) come in the form of someone who's in-tune to their emotions and self-aware. This is not some abstract concept. Fi not being in the main stack might make it harder, but it absolutely is not impossible or even unlikely. Especially given that I'm a grown woman who has spent years in and out of therapy working on myself and becoming intimately acquainted with who I am. I'm not a young teenager, I'm in my 30s. I would hope that people in their 30s of any type have developed the ability to be compassionate and self-aware. Sure, plenty don't, but that is a reasonable time frame for every MBTI type to grow and mature. Doubly so with the sheer amount of self-improvement and healing I have done.

The last one was honestly the most bizarre in which someone claimed that me liking fashion and aesthetically pleasing things means I'm INFP or ISFP.

Guys.

Are we being deadass?

INTPs are often regarded as highly creative types; that doesn't only apply to scientifically creative. Art and science are not separate entities; it is only through the fabric of society that we label and separate them, but in actuality, there is science to art, and art to science. Everything humans find pleasing has a biological mechanism behind it. And less pretentiously...Who the hell doesn't appreciate nice looking things?

I never said it's my favorite thing in the world, I just said I like it. God forbid a girl like a meat suit dress. (look up Robert Wang human body if you want to see what I'm referring to)

Okay, rant over.

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u/ArminsMother — 6 days ago
▲ 431 r/mbtimemes

INTP stereotypes vs reality

Pretty self-explanatory. Stereotypes are just that; stereotypes. The most difficult yet beautiful part of reality is that every single person is unique in their own way, and how we show up will always depart at least somewhat from the assumptions others make about us. For example, I actually know what soap is, and apply it rigorously to my skin almost every single day.

And yes, I'm 100% sure I'm INTP, not INFP or INFJ. 😅

Edit: Since some of you are insistent I MUST be INFX, I am once again reiterating: I am not. The first slide, aside from being good at math, is literally just a bunch of traits of immaturity, not anything that is INTP inherently. If you truly believe any of those must be inherent to INTP, then I am sorry to say but you are essentially saying it is impossible for INTPs to be responsible, mature adults. And I'm not sure what I can say to that, really. Mature people of any type are capable of being all of the above--on the contrary, I'd argue it's a requirement to be compassionate, have integrity, and be in-tune with your emotions to be considered mature. I'm a grown adult woman in her 30s with 2 kids and a career in psychology. I'm not a 15 year old who doesn't even know they're a person anymore. I have a wide array of likes and hobbies, of which at least a few don't fit into the mold, such as fashion, interior design, and skiing. That's what a normal person of any type is like, especially people who are properly grown and aren't in their teens and early 20s. Every type is capable of producing well-rounded, mature individuals. Furthermore, MBTI is not about your hobbies, likes, and dislikes. It's about how you process things, how you think, how you experience your inner world and the outer world.

If you relate to the first slide more...Go to therapy. Lovingly. Respectfully.

Also, I mislabeled the images a bit; it's supposed to be INTP stereotypes vs stereotypes I myself defy specifically. I'm speaking only for myself and specifically the stereotypes I defy; it's not a comprehensive list of my own traits, naturally.

u/ArminsMother — 7 days ago
▲ 280 r/hygiene

What's one "gross" hygiene habit you still do?

I have lived my entire life in places with extremely clean lake and river water, so often times during the summer, I'll skip a shower if I went swimming. (I live on a lakeside cabin) I don't think it counts as bathing, nor am I saying it makes me clean, but it makes me smell really good and feel in touch with myself and nature.

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u/ArminsMother — 9 days ago

Suddenly seemed to have develop an allergy overnight. What is going on?

Does anyone have an experience like this? I have all the windows in my house open and have had them opened for the past 2 months. I love fresh air and spend many hours outside. However, this evening, my nose and eyes have been itching nonstop. I have never had an allergy before in my life. I'm 33 years old. Nothing should have changed in the pollen types between now and yesterday. The wind is the same as yesterday, too, but yesterday, there was no problem. I also had a bad reaction to a lotion I have had no troubles with before; when I applied it to my face, it stung. I didn't wash it off and it's stopped stinging now, but what could cause this? Any help is appreciated.

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u/ArminsMother — 11 days ago

Type me based on this lil thing I made!

None of this is intentionally meant to throw anyone off, but I suspect it will produce an abnormally high amount of certain results.

My name is Sana and I am from Finland. I am a research psychologist and a mother of 2. Having children was a surprise to my family, because they were certain I wouldn't want to be a mom. My husband's type is INTJ.

Hobby - I love collecting and solving unique puzzles. I also like traditional puzzles, where you match pieces together to form an image. :) I also like virtual puzzles and things adjacent to puzzles, like Wordle.

Favorite song - In truth, I couldn't choose. I listen to a wide variety of music. I tend to gravitate towards softer sounds nowadays, but in the past I would listen to metal and hard rock, too.

Lifestyle - Motherhood has turned me into a morning person, which means I have also become similar to a geriatric man.

Character most compared to - Pieck Finger. My husband and I love Attack On Titan and we would both agree my personality is quite similar to hers, though I am a bit more emotive.

Profession - I am a research psychologist who mainly studies autism. It's something I'm passionate about, as I have it myself.

Favorite character - See my username? In truth, it is because my husband insists I look like Armin's mother. But he's also my favorite, so it works out for me.

Video game - According to my Switch, I have 453 hours in BOTW. :)

Fashion - I just put what I wear on an average day, although my taste in fashion is varied. But I usually dress quite plainly and focus on quality. I do care about my appearance, but I like looking natural, so I dress pretty pedestrian. I have an enormous love for other styles, however.

Guilty pleasure - Any home remodeling TV show, but especially the ones where they suck. It's the worst! I love it.

Let me know what you think. :)

u/ArminsMother — 13 days ago

A humble ranking of every MBTI type 🙂‍↕️

This is my ranking of every MBTI type, as an INTP 6w7.

I truly want to find an ENFP that I like, but it's proven extremely difficult. Every single person I can identify as ENFP in my life has done me or other people terribly wrong and have seemingly no sense of morals. Whether it be cheating on their partners, lying for attention, spreading vicious rumors, or leaking intimate photos, it's just been bad all around. I'm sorry ENFP, you are not sending me your best. :(

ISTJ and ESTP are also in similar boats, except I find ISTJ just truly grating. Or they have very skewed ideas of what reality is. ESTPs in my experience just lack empathy overall, and that's someone I cannot get along with. There is one ISTJ I do like, however, which is Link from GMM.

u/ArminsMother — 14 days ago