Decided to look up the Reg to see how much tax they pay
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Decided to look up the Reg to see how much tax they pay

Spotted this in my home town ans was pretty amused.

I decided to look up the reg to see how much tax they pay (£640 a year btw, plus the initial premium of £440) but i was more shocked to see its MOT was expired.

The uniqueness of plate compelled ME to look it up, all I could think was, if I was curious enough how have they not had a fine yet haha

u/AudiGoFast — 2 days ago

Did Andrew know the school would contact the wrong parents?

This isn't aimed at trying to understand what happened to Andrew its purely speculation that I'd like to hear other people thoughts on.

I had a YouTube video pop up the other day going over Andrews case. But one particular idea stood out that I hadn't heard before.

As we all know there was a occasion that Andrew had walked home from school rather than taking the bus (this is often blown out of proportion that he did it a lot, he didn't, his Dad has confirmed that).

The YouTube video suggested this could of been Andrew 'trialling' if him being home late would raise some type of alarm with his family. Could it have been that (since he didn't have a phone or way to communicate to his family that he would be home later) he wanted to see when they would notice his absence?

Essentially working out if he could 'get away' with being home late without intense questioning or worry from his family.

This then lead me to wonder, could he of known that the school would contact the wrong family?

Had there previously been a time that his parents should of been contacted but it clearly failed? I.e. he forgot his PE kit, the school said they would contact his parents, his parent(s) never dropped off the PE kit, Andrew gets home asks about it and they say they never heard from the school.

If the system had worked properly it should of been clear he was missing within hours and his plan would have potentially been foiled, so did he put even more thought into this than we sometimes consider? Although possible, what we know about Andrew would make me assume he wasn't the type of person that would want to cause his family panic.

If these 2 assumptions were correct it would mean his plan was perfect to be able to enjoy a day out without anyone actually realising he did it. (Until a while after the fact, when the absent day might be discussed at school)

Like I say this is purely speculation, just a thought I had, and I'd be interested to hear what others think about it.

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u/AudiGoFast — 8 days ago

Bloody Bursitis

One of our department managers returned today after some time signed off.

I asked how he was doing at the start of a meeting, and he informed me he was off with BURSITIS!

"Bloody Bursitis!" my brain shouted regularly for the next hour of the meeting

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u/AudiGoFast — 23 days ago

How come these waves look so odd?

Just having a random look around islands.

The waves look so odd and I'm just wonder if anyone can explain for me why?

Is it low lying rocks? Or vegetation? I've just not really seen them look like that on google earth before.

Coordinates: 46°23'37.30"S 51°44'01.27"E

u/AudiGoFast — 2 months ago

Is the no return ticket really that important?

This is only a small point but I thought it would be interesting to hear people opinions on it.

I've often read people giving a lot of credit to the fact that Andrew refused the return ticket, even after the seller told him it only costed 50p more. It seems generally taken that that could mean Andrew either didn't plan to return or had another plan to return i.e. a lift from someone or use of the National Express.

But, I remember being a awkward emo teen and I'm not sure if its that deep. I can remember scenarios where I said 'no' to something and then stuck with it because I felt too awkward to go back on it. For example you get to a friends house and they say "Do you want a drink?" you being a polite awkward kiddo say "no thanks I'm fine" so they are "are you sure?" and really you're not because you do in fact really need a drink, but you already said no so you stick with it.

Could it be the same thing? Andrew did have full intention to return via train but wasn't thinking about his return when buying the first ticket, automatically say 'no thanks' when first asked and then felt to awkward to go back on his first response when told it would be a big money saver?

Or perhaps he just didn't know exactly when he wanted to return so said no.

As I say its only a small point, but I'm just trying to imagine navigating that day as my 14 year old self rather than with the adult logic I have now.

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u/AudiGoFast — 2 months ago
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Kelly Lynch - Accidental death or murder? (Ireland 2024)

This is going to be a long post because I haven’t seen much conversation about Kelly's death on reddit or social media in general, and I want to include as many of the odd details as possible.

The information complied here is from media outlets as well as Kelly's mothers Tiktok and various interviews.

I would also like to apologise if my formatting or summarisation is bad, this is my first post of this type. But this has really stuck with me since the first day I heard about it and I really believe more people need to be aware of Kelly Lunches story.

Overview

Kelly Marie Lynch was 23 years old from Northern Ireland.

She was found dead in the Ulster Canal in Monaghan on St Patricks day (Sunday the 17th of March) 2024.

Kelly had travelled from her home in Northern Ireland to stay with her boyfriend (not publicly named) in the Republic of Ireland after a death in his family.

On the night Kelly died (the early hours of Saturday the 16th) she had been on a night out with her boyfriend and his friends. That night she became separated from the group; it has been speculated that she and her boyfriend had an argument in the Casino they had been drinking at (this was apparently supported by CCTV not released to the public) and that could have what lead to her being alone.

Between 3:00-4:00am (Saturday the 16th) CCTV shows her walking alone outside a school near the canal/bridge where she was later found.

At 4:00am she made multiple phone calls to her siblings and parents, leaving one (not publicly released) voicemail to her mother. Her mother described initially not understanding what was happening in the voicemail, but upon relistening believed it to be the sounds of Kelly in distress, pain and struggling for breath.

From this point she remained missing for 29 hours until her boyfriend and his cousin (not publicly named) found her laying on her back in the canal beneath a high bridge.

The initial investigation by the Garda (Irish Police) and post-mortem concluded Kelly had fallen from the bridge, hit her head and drowned in the 2 inches of water.

However, second review of Kelly's body by a separate coroner later concluded she had instead died of hyperthermia due to the lack of water in her lungs.

A poorly conducted investigation by the Garda, contradictor coroner reports and odd details, lead her family (in particular her mother) to question what actually happened to Kelly that night.

The Garda have been very confident and quick to rule her death as an accidental death due to alcohol consumption. They failed to isolate the crime scene for a through investigation, nor did they call the coroner to the site of her death before moving her body. There have also been a lot of issues with potential evidence, whereby her clothes were handed to the family still wet in a cardboard box.

The family contacted the Katie Trust (a charity that investigates so-called ‘hidden homicides’) and a special forensic report was commissioned.

Dr Fintan Garavan carried out the private investigation, and he has now suggested her death may have been an accidental homicide. He believes the 93 separate injuries on her body do not coincide with a fall but instead would match closer with, an accidental murder, an attempt to resuscitate her, and more than one person moving her body to its final location.

 

Section by section I plan to present the facts about this case that lead to my interest, in the hopes more awareness can be raised and therefore support Kelly's families fight for justice.

 

Kelly's body and Injuries

Kelly was found with 93 separate injuries. Although the Garda’s initial investigations determined the cause of death to be drowning or hypothermia.

These injures include:

-          Fractured sternum

-          Broken jaw

-          Fractured T-10 vertebrae

-          Bruising to both ears

-          Bruising to both hands/knuckles

-          Numerous abrasions and lacerations

The key questions here are:

If Kelly simply fell from the bridge do all of the separate injuries make sense?

The fall from the bridge shown in many articles should have been a straight fall, which can account for only some of the damage to her body.

Can someone sustain 93 separate injuries from a single fall into a shallow canal?

How was her death determined to be drowning or hypothermia when she had no water in her lungs and injuries to every side of her body?

 

Kelly's clothing and belongings

When Kelly's family were given her clothing from that night there were certain aspects that stood out to them as suspicious.

-          Her jeans were torn and muddy

-          Her top was heavily soiled with one sleeve appearing to be stretched

-          Her underwear and socks were both heavily spiled with mud

-          Her converse shoes in comparison were very clean besides a small red stain on the white rim

-          Her backpack that she had taken with her on the trip was later handed into the police station anonymously

The key questions here are:

If Kelly was wearing her shoes, why do they appear significantly cleaner than all her other clothing in the same environment?

How did mud contaminate all layers of her clothing apart from her shoes?

Would the level of mud and damage to her clothing match the results of a single fall into shallow water or are they more consistent with prolonged contact with mud?

Where was her bag up until the point an unidentified person left it/handed it in to the police station?

Her mother has posted pictures of the clothes on her TikTok: Julieannelynch

Some other key details outline by her mother about Kelly's clothes:

-          1 shoe had the laces tied and the other had the laces tucked into the shoe. Although this is a small detail Kelly's mother has been very clear that Kelly never tied her laces and always wore them tucked in, this is something that stood out to her as very out of character for Kelly.

-          Her mother also commented that Kelly's hair was tied back when her body was found, something Kelly never did, this once again stood out to her as very out of character.

 

The investigation

The family have raised a number of criticisms with the poor conduct of the Garda’s investigation into Kelly's death.

Initially officials denied the possibility Kelly and her boy friend had argued that night. Later the Casino provided the CCTV reportedly showing a heated argument between Kelly and her boyfriend, contradicting the information provided by the officials.

Her clothes were returned to the family still wet with the canal water and had not been forensically tested. When Kelly's family question if the red spots on her shoes were blood, they were told ‘you are entitled to get that tested yourself’.

The scene of Kellys death was not properly investigated and the coroner was not called to investigate her body at the scene. When a member of Kelly's family travelled to the site after hearing the news the area of road were open as usual with once officer there to assist with an event occurring in the town that day.

The people with Kelly that night were not questioned until at least 2 weeks after her death.

Her boyfriend failed to report her missing until the early morning of Sunday (despite her not returning to his house after they became separated on Friday night/Saturday morning). After her boyfriend reported her missing he and his cousin located her body within a couple of hours.

 

The independent review

Irish pathologist (living in America) Dr Fintan Garavan and independent investigator Mr Brannigan have stated:

Upon review of the scene photographs, post-mortem photographs and post-mortem reports they have publicly concluded/stated:

-          Some injuries on Kelly's body occurred after her death. A key injury being the sternum fracture that the pathologist believes to be indicative of a CPR attempt

-          Some of the injuries are not consistent with a fall, drowning or death by hypothermia

-          Kelly's body shows evidence of defensive wounds

Brannigan publicly stated he had grave concerns after review of Kelly's case and strongly believes there was third-party involvement in her death.

 

Kelly's final hours and the people around her

One of the most discussed parts of Kelly's case besides her injuries is the actions and decisions of the people around her when her tragic death occurred.

As stated, earlier CCTV places Kelly in Monaghan town during the early hours of Saturday morning, and earlier in the night she was seen arguing with her boyfriend at a local Casino. Then later CCTV captures her walking alone near a school between 3:00-4:00am.

At some point after this Kelly repeatedly tried to contact family members. She rang her parent and sibling multiple times while trying to reach her mother and left the previously mentioned voice mail, consisting of panicked noises and rough breathing.

Despite Kelly not being seen since some time Friday night/Saturday morning she was not reported missing by her boyfriend or his friends until over 24 hours later.

The family has stated that those wither her that night returned to the boyfriend’s house without her to continue their parting. This raises a lot of questions about when people should have realised Kelly was missing and if there were any attempts by the group to contact her.

Kelly's boyfriend reportedly stated he believed Kelly had ‘gone home’ but Kelly did not have the means of getting to her house (over a 30-minute drive across the border), she did not drive and would usually relay on her mother dropping her off/collecting her or her boyfriend himself driving her back to her parents’ home.  

Over a day after she was last seen her boyfriend did report her missing and he and his cousin went looking for her and ultimately found her body in the canal.

The key questions here are:

At what point did (or should) those with Kelly that night of realised she was missing?

Why was she repeatedly attempting to contact her family hours or possibly minutes before her death?

What happened after that last CCTV sighting?

Why did Kelly not return to her boyfriend’s house on her own accord?

What prompted her boyfriend and his cousin to search the specific area where she was found? (It is reported you could not have seen Kelly's body from standing on the bridge, but the boyfriend and his cousin climbed down the steep banks to where they found her)

 

Finally

I will refrain from posting my own personal thoughts and theory about what happened to Kelly as I think its important people view the facts in clear light.

Kelly's families are still working very hard to raise awareness of these events and try to find out what happened to end their beautiful daughter’s life so tragically early.

I highly recommend everyone looks into this on-going case, as I personally feel a great injustice is being put upon this family.

Videos:

Statement from the independent investigation: JT S1 UK

Interview with Kelly's mother: My Daughter Didn't K*LL Herself! She Was M*rdered...

A good summary of the case by a youtuber: What happened???…..The heartbreaking story of Kelly Lynch

Her mothers TikTok:

julieannelynch

Articles:

Mum’s heartbreak two years after Kelly Lynch's death

Death of woman in Monaghan was homicide - forensic report

Death of Kelly Lynch in Monaghan was homicide, new forensic report concludes - Irish Mirror

‘Her daughter’s body was found in shallow canal over the Irish border now one mother is looking for answers | The Independent

Kelly Lynch: Garda probe into Monaghan canal death questioned by parents - BBC News

u/AudiGoFast — 2 months ago