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My husband is an opioid addict in recovery and has started using Kratom. Is it only a matter of time before this gets out of hand?

I started seeing signs again. Nodding off. The eyes. The sunken cheeks. Waking up and seeing him sat up swaying. Then folding in half.

Treats me like I’m ridiculous for being upset by this.

We have a 15 month old.

His last relapse nearly broke us completely apart.

I just don’t know if I’m seeing the writing on the wall or if the trauma of his last relapse is clouding my judgement.

We brought it up in couples therapy, and basically I have to trust him. To what? Slide back into addiction in front of my very eyes? I do not want our daughter seeing this.

I don’t know what to do. I don’t know if tolerating any of it is me enabling or not.

Edit/update:
I looked back at the picture of the container I found. It says 7oh. So there’s that.

I’m not sure how to add the picture here so I will put it in the comments.

He insists that this isn’t the kratom he uses. That it’s a container his brother gave to him with a joint in it. He says he uses something different but is still being vague about what exactly he DOES use. “The strongest stuff they have there, trainwreck” is what he said. But how can he be using the strongest stuff they have- and yet he isn’t taking the stuff his brother takes? It doesn’t add up. But by then the conversation had become too frustrating for him for me to be comfortable pushing back that much in front of the baby.

He says he takes care of all his responsibilities so it shouldn’t be a problem. Also insists that he could take it and watch our daughter with no problem. I beg to differ.

I don’t think he is as far gone as his brother. We went camping and the dude was withdrawing (heard him moaning all the way from his tent) all night and he had to take him to town the next day to the smoke shop to get him well. I just think it’s only a matter of time before he is having by to do the same for himself if he is using this stuff.

Update #2 I asked him to show me the kratom he says he does take. I put the picture below. They are capsules.

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u/AwayWeThrow26 — 13 days ago

It started with an ICE raid. Now it looks like our bosses cheated this poor man out of over 100 grand.

Small town restaurant. Ice raid took out the BOH. (Back of house- meaning kitchen staff)

The first round of arrests happened, leaving part of a kitchen. Right before the second round of arrests (predictable since the entire BOH was full of family members) the owners sort of sold it. Then once ICE came back for the rest the new owner came into things without a kitchen staff.

They sort of sold it to him- but not in the traditional sense, it was a payment plan that involved the rent for the space and payments for the business.

From what I understand he had to pay a lump sum non refundable deposit, then there was a payment plan that would have been a number of years to completion so the owners would remain partners with the new owner and have oversight until the business was paid off. But now they are claiming breech of contract over some stuff that seems shady and definitely feels orchestrated.

It’s hard because I would like to be more specific but I would prefer not to have this reach them.

As it stands, this guy came in and bought a business that suddenly didn’t have a kitchen, so he had to spill a ton of money hiring people and paying for all the mistakes as an entire kitchen was learning the whole menu from scratch. Then a couple months later the kitchen is nearly back on its feet, and after all this time he has been back there working his ass off, now he is going to be out all this money and they are taking it back from him. It looks pretty bad. And the stuff they are claiming breech contract for… let’s just say I think they asked him to fire someone that they knew he wouldn’t want to because of how cruel or wrong it would be, and after he tried to refuse because they knew he would object to it morally, they are using it to claim breech of contract. But I think they made the contract in such a way they would have found just about anything.

I think they made the contract in bad faith and some think they have cooked some books. There’s a lot that seems fishy about all this. If it’s not illegal it’s definitely shitty.

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u/AwayWeThrow26 — 1 month ago