u/Awkward-Shopping-975

I am not gonna go on a rant again, or be sad. Or anything. And I love Miah and Bry and Mike.

I love all the Tech

I am just going back and watching the Deltarune streams (im catching up gang I am) and I just...miss fish in a way I did not think I would.

yes its parasocial.

But I miss its banter with Ash, I miss the chaos in chat.

Its sad I cant get twitch bc I would watch its streams if I could. But you know

Sometimes it just sucks

But I hope she is doing well

Too be honest, HxG is going to work these girls till the ground. But with all of the chaos and drama it feels like we are about to watch their group just crash.

Do I want that? No. But I would rather the girls go solo then continue like this.

So what are we thinking bout how long this internet craze will continue?

I saw smth that said Sophia said that is a big difference from Sis.

As if Beautiful chaos, was not that?

And Pinky up and IBM are...what they are.

As a recent snarker and ex eyekon I will still prob listen to the ep see if there is anything worth listening too.

But my expectations are very very low. Not just the songs but the roll out.

I saw smth that said people are going to hate the way the girls are posed in the photos or smth

Especially Lara which....shocking

As well as the styling, and Danis stupid eyebrows, and all of the issues that have been building for weeks. I am like actually scared for whats gonna be on it. Which is doubt is what they want

So I just got torn to shreds on the neutral sub bc I have commented in here a couple times. Stuff about the company's treatment and their just awful new songs, and the whole outfits if you could call them that. I said i just wanted to see two sides of an argument. I got called names instead so

I am still relatively new to reddit, first time engaging with a snark sub but I got the gist

But quick question for the room, Are you all haters? Solo stans? Ex fans? current fans who dont want toxic positivity?

Just let me know because what I thought was that this is more of the rotten like mean posts abt katseye, the main subreddit is the positive one and neutral would be the normal one.

But as I get closer and closer to leaving the fandom, bc i am sick of hearing these songs and seeing the girls faces EVERY FUCKING DAY

I see just how insane the neutral sub is

cant even say hey, maybe that was weird, or maybe their company should be doing more here without being stalked

So if you guys could help me out it be great! Just please be decent, ive been torn apart by the internet enough today

edit: hey there thanks for being nice, I know this isnt really what you all come to this sub for but I needed it

umm update officially leaving the fandom now. That eyekon went through my whole account history and brought up personal posts about old friends from years ago and decided to post them in the comments saying,

"no wonder your friends hate you"

which like wow ok so yea

I AM AN OFFICAL EX EYEKON! yay?

that account is now reported and blocked because jesus get off the internet, but yea

But thats beside the point, thanks for being nice to me. I really needed it :)

now you can go back to snarking

So I posted this on the neutral sub cause you know, not too snarky did not see anything mean in here

and I kid you not Three fucking seconds later an Eyekon whos prob ten went to my account and saw I have commented in here a few times

Three

fucking

seconds

So now im pissed and petty and Im posting this here to see your opinions and hopefully no one here will be unemployed enough to look at my account history

So enjoy if you want to here a rant!

DISCLAIMER: I just want to say real quick, im not saying that the girls are mean or dont have a good relationship with one another ok? DOES EVERYONE HERE THAT? Out of context clips can make a million stories and I dont know them and neither do you so just RELAX and listen pls

or scroll

So! I saw a video weeks ago of the girls saying oh we are so close, we are sister, cutting to the whole Manon situation. I thought, oh its just ppl making drama out of nothing
Then it kept happening.

Clips of seemingly Dani and Megan fighting, two or three now I believe

clips of Lara being a bit rude to Megan before a show

Them "shading" Manon (If you wish to believe that so stupid)

Sophia saying all her members in a vid

that one vid where they looked scared shitless cause someone mentioned Manon and they prob couldnt speak abt it?

The whole Megan and lara talking shit thing which is so dumb dont even get me started!

And little things that give haters so much bullsh*t to work with (eye rolls, side eyes, weird touchy stuff)

As well as their newer stuff together just feels so...awkward......im looking at you pinky up reaction

all the while them repeating to a nauseating degree how they are sisters and theyve never been closer. Like everything is all well and good. When we know Manon is on hiatus, something's clearly wrong and we have no idea what

When so much of this is so easily avoided. Just

Dont have them (sophia atp) repeat the SAME EXACT PR STATEMENT!

Edit out clips where it could look a certain way when everyone thinks people are already fighting to that their all mean girls!

Like in the dance practice video thats going viral? Just DONT SHOW THAT? you KNOW what the internet is going to do

and I dont think they care

Again this is all on the company and not the girls. I dont need them to be besties. I dont care at all really. And i am sure they are exhausted, and rightfully bitchy to others. That is totally ok

But HXG? Can you pick a lane? Do you want them to be silly and chaotic? Cause thats not working. Do you want them to be sisters? Dont put one on a weird hiatus, not let them speak abt her and leave in parts you KNOW or should know will cause this mess

Its just....so avoidable guy. YOU HAVE ONE JOB

Ok listen, before anything, I just want to say, this is not hate to Dani

However, Dani just does not vibe with the audience well. People have been noticing her being pushed. And it just feels....odd?

I don't know if its a fandom issue, a general audience issue or something, but there was a reason Manon was picked as the center and the face of the group. Not Dani. Sorry!

I got so much hate on the neutral sub reddit so lmk if Im just insane

This may be a little thing but it pissed me off pretty bad. But as much as I dislike Iconic by Mistake, the music video is pretty good. I did not roll my eyes at an obvious ad so. (its cus kateyes team did not do it but yk) However, there were many weird things with Katseye's part of the video.

(disclaimer - im sure the other groups had similar stuff I did not notice but thats not the point)

1. The Color Grading: Holy shit. It looks so bad. They did my girl Lara so dirty. And the others did not look stellar either. Im sure there was a better way to do...whatever they were trying. Cause Illit and les Serafim look good. SO its weird.
2. The Ai Eyes: This is more of a general thing as of late. STOP WITH THE AI EYES. I DONT GET IT. I JUST DONT GET IT!
3. I Hate the F8cking Corn joke: I hate it so much. I hate the line the gave it too, I hate they gave it to Lara. After months and months, maybe even years of sexualizing these girls to the point that it is a joke now, you are going to slyly make fun of the fact that the members have p*rn made of theme.

Now to be clear, just because women show their bodies, move in a certain, etc etc, does not make the Ai Porn or the sexualizing of them justified. Its still gross and evil no matter what. Especially Yoonchae she was still a minor when most of it was made. No question its horrible.

But HxG, YOU FAILED THEM!

You have them preform in underwear, you give them weird dance moves, you give them songs that either have lyrics or sounds that are not appropriate.

YOU FED INTO THIS!

ITS YOUR FAULT

And i HATE seeing eyekons say, OMG GET EM LARA

GET WHO?

THERE FINE?

HxG is taking good care of them.

It just makes me so mad. that they are trying, and getting, to have it both ways of this debate. Like I got genuinely heated so thx for reading.

And i hate that stupid corn.

This may be a little thing but it pissed me off pretty bad. But as much as I dislike Iconic by Mistake, the music video is pretty good. I did not roll my eyes at an obvious ad so. (its cus kateyes team did not do it but yk) However, there were many weird things with Katseye's part of the video.

(disclaimer - im sure the other groups had similar stuff I did not notice but thats not the point)

1. The Color Grading: Holy shit. It looks so bad. They did my girl Lara so dirty. And the others did not look stellar either. Im sure there was a better way to do...whatever they were trying. Cause Illit and les Serafim look good. SO its weird.

2. The Ai Eyes: This is more of a general thing as of late. STOP WITH THE AI EYES. I DONT GET IT. I JUST DONT GET IT!

3. I Hate the F8cking Corn joke: I hate it so much. I hate the line the gave it too, I hate they gave it to Lara. After months and months, maybe even years of sexualizing these girls to the point that it is a joke now, you are going to slyly make fun of the fact that the members have p*rn made of theme.

Now to be clear, just because women show their bodies, move in a certain, etc etc, does not make the Ai Porn or the sexualizing of them justified. Its still gross and evil no matter what. Especially Yoonchae she was still a minor when most of it was made. No question its horrible.

But HxG, YOU FAILED THEM!

You have them preform in underwear, you give them weird dance moves, you give them songs that either have lyrics or sounds that are not appropriate.

YOU FED INTO THIS!

ITS YOUR FAULT

And i HATE seeing eyecons say, OMG GET EM LARA

GET WHO?

THERE FINE?

HxG is taking good care of them.

It just makes me so mad. that they are trying, and getting, to have it both ways of this debate. Like I got genuinely heated so thx for reading.

And i hate that stupid corn.

Ok listen, just hear me out! Daniella is over dancing at some points. I dont think she does it to outshine her members or any reason to hate. I think she just gets excited and that's fine.

But its also fine if people get put off by that. It happened to my bias in Baby Monster, Aheyon. And she was not in sync with the group. Now did people take it way too far and bullied a teenage girl who just debuted? HELL YEA! Are people doing the same to Daniella? I'm sure of it.

And I get it shes an amazing dancer. I love her dancing. But it has gotten to the point that she has hurt herself and still preformed like that. And it can look a bit chaotic and out of sync.

This is just a part of a bigger issue with Daniella right now. Where she is so divisive (for some reason, literally an icon but whateves) that you either hate her or love her and thats not true.

Is she being pushed by Hybe a bit too much right now? I think so. Does she over do the facial expressions sometimes? I also think so. In some clips is she over dancing? Yes!

and thats how I feel. And thats ok.

I am not interested in contributing to the crazy amount of hate/critics the team has got lately. Especially abut the Theroyverse. (im not saying all of those are invalid)

But just one thing - $12 a month is too much. And not a cup of coffee. I dont understand why the price would be doubled for one more show, a badge and AMAs i think thats the difference. I dont think it should be over 10. But thats just me.

Edit: wow this was bigger then I expected,

again I do not want to spread hate. I understand completely why theorist has done this. Its unfortunate that YouTube has made people turn to this but I think its a cool idea. And I got the $6 tier. Because not to be dramatic but this community has saved my life. And I love theorist.

This was more me expressing my confusion on why the top tier is 12 bucks. I dont think that was well communicated to the audience. I also agree that the exclusive episodes being only behind the 12 dollars when thats the content most of the fans would want to see is odd too.

Because if it was 10 dollars or less, I would get the top tier. I think a lot of people would. But my accounts are controlled by my parents and in this economy I cannot ask them to spend 12 dollars a month of something they don't care abt.

I just think 12 dollars a month or 144 dollars a year (quick math) is too much for this and I don't see why the cost would be doubled for one more show and one more video a week.

Thank you all for being so respectful towards me, the team and the other theorists. This community never disappoints. :)