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Can we stop turning every little thing involving Manon into a victim narrative?

You guys are starting to overdramatize the Manon situation a lot and honestly it’s getting kinda
exhausting at this point.

First of all, I wanna start by saying I miss Manon too. I miss her beauty, her charisma, her humor, and the energy she brings to the group. Whenever the girls post videos I catch myself looking for her automatically. But aside from that, some of you are seriously exaggerating certain situations.

For example, the Glossier promo. Manon wasn’t there because she literally wasn’t there 😭 so obviously she wasn’t included in the photos. And since she was absent, the girls probably posed in a way where only their faces were visible so the pictures would look aesthetically balanced. The group literally said in the Jollibee interview that when one member is sick, they prioritize their health and the rest cover for them while activities continue. Megan also missed some group activities when she was sick. At the end of the day this is still a GROUP. They are not gonna reschedule every single activity because one member can’t attend.

And the Gabriela dance performance discourse is honestly one of the dumbest things I’ve seen people complain about. The girls were dancing. DANCING. Were they supposed to force injured Manon to dance? Or film her sitting in the background while everyone else performs?? It wasn’t a music video. Lara participated in a music video while she wasn’t feeling well, but that’s completely different because you don’t have to actively perform choreography the same way you do in a dance performance video. Those are two totally different situations.
Also Daniella missed a performance video once too, and Manon even covered some of her parts. So this is clearly not something that only happened to Manon.

As for the TikTok thing… the girls themselves film a lot of those videos and usually come up with the ideas too. (Sophia said this) If Manon isn’t in every TikTok maybe she just isn’t that interested in filming them, and honestly that’s fine. It’s probably her own choice. If they’re not forcing her into every video then good?? Same with dance collabs. I genuinely think the girls who LIKE dancing choose to participate more. Daniella, Yoonchae and Megan are constantly doing dance collabs because they clearly enjoy it and choose to do it. If Manon doesn’t want to, that’s her decision too.

The Season’s Greetings “selfish” thing was weird af though, I agree. But they didn’t only write it for Manon, they also wrote it for Yoonchae. Either way it was a strange choice and I genuinely don’t understand why they thought that was a good idea 😭

The Monster High promo situation is the only one that still feels genuinely weird to me too. But I read a comment saying the character they picked apparently has a negative meaning in Ghanaian culture, so maybe the company got scared of backlash and decided not to include Manon last minute because they didn’t want accusations of racism or a huge controversy. I don’t know if that’s true obviously, but if it is, then the real issue is that they apparently didn’t research the character properly beforehand because THAT is what’s actually stupid and deserves criticism.

But the idea that they are intentionally excluding Manon from everything just doesn’t make sense to me. At the end of the day she’s one of the main faces/centers of most promos and usually gets some of the best styling too. Why would you intentionally exclude someone you clearly use as one of the group’s visuals?

And yeah, I agree about the debut MV. Manon being placed in the back so much didn’t look great and honestly it was kinda sad to watch. Maybe at the time they thought her dance skills weren’t as strong as the other girls yet and didn’t want her to stand out during live performances, I really don’t know. But regardless of the reason, it still didn’t look good.

Overall I just think some of you are turning every single thing into proof that she’s being victimized and it’s getting excessive. Of course we don’t know what happens behind the scenes and yes, Manon genuinely COULD have experienced unfair treatment. The entertainment industry is terrible so I wouldn’t be shocked at all. But some of the examples people bring up are nowhere near as dramatic as y’all try to make them seem. Stop trying to manipulate people emotionally over every little thing.

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u/freyjai — 2 hours ago
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Looks like manon is leaving katseye

With the news of rostr and her posting this almost confirmed of her leaving and going solo. If this news turns out to be true i will still support all 6 of them because i really love them all

What your thoughts 💭

u/Dry_Concern389 — 5 hours ago

Why doesn't this get addressed enough??

I came across this thread a few days ago she clearly seems to be mistreated even when she was in the group

u/Ok-Ladder-6917 — 6 hours ago

“manon still missed rehearsals after debut”

i’m literally shocked that this is the sentiment a lot of eyekons share. i’m genuinely concerned how many of you are really fans because over and over yall choose to never listen to these girls and i’m guessing that’s why lara got fed up and said what she said on her recent live.

also on the attached video, peep lara saying she’s glad they had this conversation on camera because hxg intentionally doesn’t show manon working as hard as she does hence why majority of the fandom still believes in the narrative spewed in the doc

and one last thing, can anyone who believes she’s lazy manage to put words together how she kept up with the dream academy performances? because i genuinely think a lot of new fans never watched their performances and its bts on youtube and only rely on pop star academy for their opinions

u/Suspicious-Bus976 — 5 hours ago

Rostr.cc changed it

The HXG team must have seen the discourse and made them change it. Quite shocked at how fast they changed it tho.

Also, the number of times I've seen Manon being described as a past member on a site or magazine, only for them to change it quickly once people realise it is crazy.

u/JustAIisa — 2 hours ago

I’m so glad Yoonchae has been able to make her own friends in LA

This was shared by yoonchae, she was playing golf with friends.

I always wondered if not being in a kpop group in Korea was holding Yoonchae back socially? Like if she was, would she be out a lot socialising more? Happy to see she‘s doing well. it used to just be her and Sophia hanging out at home but now I think Yoonchae has come out of her shell and is thriving in LA.

u/RingHonest7272 — 6 hours ago

Do people still think manon is still in the group?

Look at the difference before and after now concerning his hiatus, do you really think manon is coming back to Katseye?

u/KeyBandicoot8868 — 7 hours ago

hxg is soft-launching manon’s departure announcement to get ahead of the heat

this is mostly a post i’m gonna come back to when they announce her departure officially

i think it’s coming now that ticket sales are done. they’re ‘leaking’ stuff now to soften the blow like with pinky up. this feels tactical imo

agree. disagree. i don’t care. but be respectful

let’s see what happens. i’ll come back to this if i’m proven right or wrong

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u/SnooLemons7742 — 9 hours ago

Interesting ad choice

I saw this ad from SeatGeek for the upcoming tour, and the fact a photo with all 6 girls was chosen (Not sure if it was Seat geek or Hybe x Geffen's decision lol) BUT they put the logo over Manon's face is... An interesting choice to say the least. Doesn't make me feel good.

u/Pride_princess — 15 hours ago

Katseye girls living together?

Hi! Can someone explain to me if and how members share a house when they're kpop idols?

I've seen that Katseye members started out living together (like they had that video on youtube when they built ikea chairs), and now I'm under the impression that they don't live in the same house anymore, or do they? And Saint Satine also just moved into a house together. Is this like a tradition in kpop? And is there a required amount for how long they live together? Where did the Katseye girls move afterwards, did they move to individual houses now?

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u/katsem — 8 hours ago

manon listed as past member of katseye

I work in the music industry and I was checking Rostr.cc earlier today (the platform a lot of agencies/ managers use for contacts and roster info). I noticed Manon is currently listed as a "past member" of KATSEYE on there.

Before people ask Rostr isn't like Wikipedia where random users can edit things. The info is usually updated either by the artist/team themselves or verified industry sources connected to management/ agencies.

Hybe needs to release that statement already and get this over with

u/Minimum_Cry3008 — 22 hours ago

do ppl actually believe manon is gonna go on tour??

ppls main theory is that they didnt announce her departure yet bc ppl are buying tickets "hoping" she'll be at the tour and im like????? theres genuinely no way ppl think she's going

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u/55ae — 14 hours ago

What I believe too!

You think they rushed announcing a tour and ep 4 months in advance for nothing ? 😭 and to those who say “they wouldn’t do that so the girls would get hate or asked abt Manon at tour” YES THEY WOULD 😭 like have yall not been noticing the priming they’ve been giving to the fans for the past 3 months? getting you used to no questions abt Manon, ot5 tour and appearances and interviews ? I know fans believe the girls are different from Manon due to a doc from 3 yrs ago, but no. the same way it’s being preached their a business first now, be prepared to use that rhetoric later when no one but the girls are catching heat from interviews and fans.

those who have stanned other hxg groups have seen this play before . the difference is Manon has connections and probably a good team and instances as proof (ex : Haitus) of mistreatment , just like when she removed her bio after the last teaser . I BET they’re waiting for all the nonrefundable tickets to sell. She’s been silent for more than a week and her nor her friends & fam are spiraling . I even believe Pink was talking abt her in her interview.

so as a Manon bias I am ready !! I do feel bad for true ot6 fans and those loosing their representation but I’m glad Manon can finally be free

u/Mission_Detail_7085 — 23 hours ago

Ik yall are tired of these kinds of posts but i wanted to share my thoughts

Some of y’all are forgetting this is a KATSEYE neutral subreddit. People should be allowed to post about Manon without instantly getting attacked or accused of being a solo fan who hates everything KATSEYE and hope they fail this and that. Until there is an official statement saying otherwise, she is still part of KATSEYE no matter how things may seem right now.

Also, a lot of the people spreading hate toward the other members probably just discovered KATSEYE through all this drama. The same way content creators are milking the situation for views, a lot of these accounts do not even know the group like that and are just adding fuel to the fire. Not every Manon post is an attack on the other girls, and not every manon fan hates Sophia Lara Megan Dani and Yoonchae and the constant assumptions are just making the fandom more divided for no reason.

Anyways, that’s just my opinion—don’t come for me, I’m just here scrolling 😭

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u/OpenInterest4605 — 17 hours ago

I Can’t Believe it Worked Out…

Hi everyone, I’m putting this out to see how many people resorted to a similar solution like I did. But I also have my story time below.

I’m from the Bay where we get hyphy and go dumb so naturally I set my alarms to queue up for the Oakland show, however I was dealing with so many technical difficulties while also trying to work through my 9 - 5. It was all so overwhelming and by the time I made it into the queue, I was #260000 in the membership pre-sale line. After an hour and a half, I got to purchase and the whole stadium was greyed out!! I couldn’t buy anything. So I literally went insane trying to re-enter the queue only to find the exact same results 🫠

So we’re 2 hours into the membership presale, I see that tickets for Oakland are already on third-party sites but I decided to start looking at other venues on Ticketmaster… VEGAS (the date worked better for me anyway). I join the queue and I’m like…. Instantly in and I see a handful of seats left by the stage… they’re literally getting snatched up as I try to decide what I want to do. BUT THERE IS NO TIME TO THINK, so I snag these seats by the corner of Floor A and I don’t look back. The tickets were mine!!

Then there was the whole ordeal of VIP, I waited out until 3PM today and was able to get passes for my partner and I. I was expecting them to tax the hell out of me but those prices weren’t bad in my opinion.

This feels like divine intervention, I was reading people struggling to get tickets in real time so it feels like there’s no way it should have worked out the way it did. Plus the concert is so far in advance I have time to save my money!!

My heart goes out to all of the people who were in the trenches today and yesterday. I know it was such a battle but we made it! If you did not end up with your desired outcome, I hope there are opportunities for you to experience Katseye in the future!!

Did anybody else have luck checking out alternative venues near your area? Feel free to drop your story below 🍿

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u/pocketmonsterpeach — 19 hours ago

If Manon is indeed out of the group, what do you think/hope she’ll do next?

I really hope that if she’s no longer with the group, it was on her own accord. As happy as I am for the other girls, if not, recent news would feel really sad.
Their recent achievements are after all a culmination of the hard work of all 6 of them.

What’s something you’ll love to see her in / an industry you think she’d thrive?

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u/Educational-Act-8932 — 20 hours ago

Dealing with Disillusionment

Disclaimer: This is not snark. Do not direct hate towards anyone. Be civil in the comments.

I'd like to start off by saying it's okay if you like KATSEYE less. I, personally, do not like the entity that is KATSEYE much anymore, but I do like the individual members. However, it's come to the point that Manon's leaving is evident and many are wishing the group to fail. It's very unkind. Please stop.

I think a lot of fans who are clinging onto the idea of Manon remaining in the group or hurting their sales need to let go. The post attached really encapsulates how the general public feels about the whole situation — they don't care. All press is good press as they say. The other girls have big followings as well and the documentary has led to the average person deeming her lazy or uninterested. You can be frustrated that people don't care, but then you're frustrated at society, not KATSEYE.

I was already iffy about KPOP groups, avoiding them because I didn't really like the culture around them. I thought KATSEYE would be different, but they're so corporate that it's hard to ignore at this point. I value artistry and authenticity over everything else. The group was fun, but it never fulfilled those things for me. Also, kpop fandoms are toxic. I always tried to see the best in the girls, but many didn't. I wish all the girls the best. It's okay to be upset, but not mean.

P.S. For the black girls out there who really wanted to see a black girl in space like this, I'm sorry. Many will not understand how it feels. It's okay to be sad about it, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

u/btwimcool — 20 hours ago

Justice for Naisha bro

Lmao she got cut from DA for leaking demos but HybexG literally leaked the ENTIRETY of pinky up down to the vision boards 😭 They did so many contestants so dirty.

Also I saw a youtube video on how HybexG might have been behind Adela's "solo" launch since she's under Capital records. Unconfirmed obviously, she deserves her flowers but why do people take DA so seriously? Can anyone name one thing HybexG DIDN'T contradict themselves on or curate on the show?

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u/Excellent_Hippo5514 — 1 day ago