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This is the UNSC as of 2525 (Halo: Contact Harvest). There is no Covenant. However, in all of these scenarios, Harvest will be the place where the UEG makes contact with the Star Wars factions.
Round 1: Hutt Empire. The United Earth Government replaces Xim the Despot and fights the Hutt Empire. Instead of making contact with the Covenant at Harvest, humanity makes contact with the Hutt Empire
Round 2: Ssi Ruuvi Empire as of Bakura. However the Imperium is not fighting a second front against the Chiss.
Round 3: Dushkan League. Lets say human space is located within the Koornacht Cluster and there are no other species in said cluster other than humanity thus the UEG is marked for extermination in the Yevethan Purge. The New Republic is not present to protect the cluster. The Yevetha have the same fleet they had in the Black Fleet Crisis books.
Round 4: The Sith Empire (as of the Great Hyperspace War). Instead of making contact with Gav and Jori Daragon, the Sith finds explorers from Harvest. After Ludo Kressh faked his death, Naga Sadow becomes Dark Lord and invades Harvest. NOTE: Remember that the Sith Empire only made it as far as they did against the Republic because of the Daragon trail which allowed the Sith Empire a chance to launch a surprise assault to the Core Worlds (what Sadow describes as the heart of the Republic in the comic) from the unsuspecting Deep Core. Prior to the discovery of that hyperlane, Sadow's predecesor, Marka Ragnos, did not think the Sith could beat the Republic and the Jedi hence why he tried to make the Sith focus on fighting one another instead of trying to attack the Republic as described in the Wizards of the Coast's Dark Side Sourcebook. Here the Sith Empire would just start the war by attacking Harvest, a frontier world. Should also be noted, the Sith owns 120 habitable worlds which to my understanding is way less than the number of worlds Humanity in Halo has colonized.

The images are from the comic Darth Vader and the Lost Command. I suppose that feat (as well as Vader's survival of serious injuries in other stories such as The Force Unleashed) confirm the theory that Vader was being kept alive by the dark side not just his cybernetics so when Palpatine zapped the living fuck out of him in ROTJ, Vader probably could have survived such injuries had he not been redeemed?

Vader also has a similar feat in Shadows of the Empire, but it seems more so centered around Vader's own healing capabilities rather than just sustaining his body:

>Vader took a deep breath, blew it out, then took another. The energies of the dark side filled him, and he could once again breathe as a normal man did. He focused his anger. It was not right that he be crippled, that he couldn’t do this all the time. It was … not … right!
The healing energies held.
As long as he could maintain his indignation, his lungs and breathing passages stayed open and clear. He fed the fires of his rage with the unfairness of a galaxy that would not let him be whole.
Still the healing energies held.
He fought the sense of relief he felt. Fought it and kept his anger pure.
And still they held. Almost two minutes now. A new record.
He would grow stronger. He would add Luke’s power to his own, and he would eventually be able to shed the armor, to walk around as normal men walked.
Luke …
He tried to stop the smile. Failed.
Sank back into the protection of his breathing chamber, unable to maintain the energies any longer. But even so, he’d managed two minutes. Eventually it would be ten minutes, then an hour, then as long as he wished.
Eventually.

So what Im wondering is, how does Vader's ability to survive an insane amount of injuries compare to Sion?
The Shadows of the Empire feat is something that has been on my mind for a while now. Is Vader's power over the dark side weaker than Sion that he cant heal himself using Dark Side energy? Or is what Vader is trying to do way more advanced than what Sion was doing, seeing as how Vader's body was essentially reversing his Mustafar injuries rather than just simply stitching rotting flesh together like Sion did.

Here are some of the things I would have liked to see in the game though realistically none of this probably will ever show up at all due to how relatively obscure most of this is and budget issues. Im just posting this here to also see what people think these guys could have been up to during the events of the game. Im also curious if there are other relatively obscure-ish things you guys wish showed up in this game.
- Ailon Nova Guard: These guys are the military force of the people of Ailon, a warrior race that has served the Republic for tens of thousands of years. During the time of the Galactic Empire their skill was compared to those of Mandalorians and Imperial Royal Guards. The thing with them is that, despite their warrior culture, they're mercenaries at heart. During theNew Republic era, New Republic high ranking officers feared that the Ailons would switch sides if the New Republic showed weakness; and indeed years later they would switch sides and help the Yuuzhan Vong. I always was quite curious as to what these guys would have been doing during the cold war, let alone this entire period where there have been 2 major superpowers squaring off.
-Alsakan. This humanocentric world caused so many internal conflicts in the Republic through the years (and after the events of this game, it should also cause more conflicts) yet this world, despite its importance in the lore, is barely even acknowledged. I would also really like to see more Republic humancentrism being portrayed in this game.
-Thule: Now this world is very interesting in my opinion. During the Great Hyperspace War, this world basically became a Sith remnant that was left untouched. A few things are of note here. First this world was where the superweapon seen in the old The Clone Wars game the Dark Reaper was built, this planet also joined Exar Kun's Sith Order and it was suspiciously close to a world Vitiate's Sith Empire controlled; Odacer Faustin (a world from the novel Red Harvest). As a fun fact, it would seem that Thule was never actually conquered by the Republic during the Great Sith War though there was a battle there and Thule's army would go on to aid Lord Kaan and even the rule of 2 sith. Im quite curious as to what their relation with Vitiate's Sith Empire was like this world seems quite important. Through Thule, i feel, the writers could have explored more of the relation and interactions between the well known Sith Empires (like Exar's and Revan's) and Vitiate's Sith Empire.
-Republic Moffs: The title of Moff was actually not invented by The Sith, it was invented by the Republic and the Republic still had Moffs (who were basically semi independant warlords that worked for the Republic) as of the time of the New Sith Wars meaning they should havge Moffs during the time period this game is set in. Now their existance, from a lore context, would imply most Sith moffs could also just be warlords that are part of the Sith Empire (this imo only works if one thinks of the Sith Empire as a sort of feudal realm). At any rate, it'd be cool if SWTOR acknowledged the existance of these guys.
-Malachor 3: Another Sith World Im surprised that they havent done anything with this world considering how in the base game it is mentioned quite a lot and is the resting place of the Sith Lord Terrak Morrhage (sith spirit that possessed Parkanas Tark, main antagonist of act 1 of the Jedi Consular story).

The other day I had a random thought after wondering which one of the two was stronger; seeing as how Thanaton actually met a Voice of the Emperor in the comic Blood of the Empire what do you guys think Thanaton would have actually thought of Baras and his claim as being the Voice? I guess this question also applies to Darth Marr, as he too met a Voice of the Emperor.

Just a fun thought I had a while back
-Sphere of Defense of the Empire: Darth Marr
-Sphere of Imperial Intelligence: Darth Jadus
-Sphere of Expansion and Diplomacy: Darth Malgus
-Sphere of Military Offense: Darth Baras
-Sphere of Biotic Science: Grathan cause I think he is really cool
-Sphere of Laws and Justice: Darth Mortis
-Sphere of Production and Logistics: Darth Vowrawn
-Sphere of Military Strategy: Darth Krovos
-Sphere of Mysteries: Darth Ekkage. I have no clue what the sphere of Mysteries even does, Im just adding Ekkage in just so Baras has an ally in the council.
-Sphere of Technology: Darth Mekhis.
-Sphere of Ancient Knowledge: Darth Acina cause honestly, I think its fitting for whoever is in charge of this sphere to also be the one with access to the Arcanum
-Sphere of Sith Philosophy: Darth Ikoral. Just to give Malgus a rival.

The Dread Masters (except Styrak) and their Dread Host forces
The Onderon Strike Team Jedi replace the Jedi sent to Oricon:
-Master Arca jeth
-Jedi Ulic Qel Droma
-Cay Qel Droma
-Tott Doneetta
-Nomi Sunrider
-Oss Willum
-Shoaneb Culu
-Qrrl Toq
-Kith Kark
-Dace Diath

Round 2)
The Jedi Team gets Jedi Master Vodo Siosk Baas, Jedi Master Thon, Jedi Exar Kun, Crado and Sylvar.

These two fought, briefly, in the comic Threat of Peace. What if they fought as of the events of SWTOR? Is Angral really that much weaker than Baras? If so, why? I cant for the life of me think of a way to scale them at the moment. Like if someone goes and points a gun straight to my head right now and forces me to defend Baras > Angral I think I may die.
So whats the logic here aside from Angral being an Act 1 final boss and Baras being an Act 3 final boss?
I'd appreciate it even further if someone even could dig some quote or something to help scale these two.

Exactly as the title says. How powerful is he? Im having a hard time trying to scale him.

During the clone wars and galactic civil war (so way before he even became a Jedi) he seemed to be capable of easily dispatching magnaguards and Imperial Guards, somehow he was capable of driving back Grievous in the ds version of Elite Squadron (not even sure how legit this feat is). He also helped hunt down Jedi.

He also could easily cut down nightsisters as a Jedi Padawan so theres that.

How would you guys scale this guy compared to other members of Luke's Jedi Order in the New Republic period?

How does he compare to Kyle Katarn, Jaden Korr, Kyp Durron and Kam Solusar, for example?

Lets say a Sith managed to give a terentatek its own orbalisk armor after said Sithspawn had a shitload of orbalisks latched on to him.

How strong would this creature now be?

Or would this creature instead just get one tapped by Ion weapons?

Kir Kanos wields his standard equipment (his heavy blaster pistol and his double bladed vibro staff).

Can Kir Kanos fight through the Bando Gora cultists, defeat Montross and later Komari Vosa?

Okay so for those that have absolutely 0 idea of what Im talking about let me start from scratch and give some context:

In this scenario, Ysanne Isard's plan is a bit different from her plan from the comics in which she essentially tricked Sate Pestage and the Imperial Ruling Council into blundering Brentaal 4, letting the New Republic gain a foothold in the Core Worlds and causing a political crisis which eventually led to both the Council and Pestage being removed from the picture allowing for Isard's rise to power. Yet there is one flaw, she let the New Republic gain a foothold in the Core Worlds. And she'd go on to let the New Republic get Coruscant itself in an overly complicated scheme to logistically cripple the New Republic through the Krytos Virus.

So what if her plan was changed a bit?

1. Isard arranges for the Battle of Brentaal to be a failure, however, the epicenter of the Krytos Virus is not Coruscant but rather Brentaal IV. So now not only does she cause a political crisis for her political rivals that ends up paving the way for her ascension but she also is unleashing the Kyrtos Virus earlier than in the timeline.
2. After seizing power and dealing with the Tribunal and later killing the Central Committee of Grand Moffs, Isard goes a step further and does the very same thing that the Galactic Republic did in the New Sith War which started the Republic's Dark Ages: disabling the hyperspace relays connecting the Core Worlds, Colonies, and parts of the Inner Rim to the rest of the galaxy

For those that still have no clue what Im talking about and what the Republic actually did in the New Sith War, let me show you what the Knight Errant Gazetter says:

>HISTORICAL BACKGROUND

>The dire conditions facing the Republic today require little amplification on my part. It is difficult to recall another time in history when so many factors have gone against those working to promote peace and good will.

>There is little need, for example, to describe our long years of war with the newly risen Sith Lords on the Outer Rim. The Grumani sector is one such nest of evil, but today's map of the galaxy shows many disparate areas under Sith control, like cancerous lesions. Alongside the Republic Navy, the Jedi Order sought to stem the tide by making stands on world after world, Republic-affiliated or not.

>But such efforts fell short, partially due to another factor: plague. If the Sith threat is the fire, the Candorian Plague proved a deadly and effective accelerant. Even the noblest defenders cannot stand long when their own bodies fail them. Systems under quarantine could not be defended -- and Sith Lords more interested in conquest than the well-beings of their own warriors took advantage. World after world fell to the Sith conquerors.

>Exceptional times call for exceptional measures. One such measure came when the Republic turned to Jedi for political leadership. Jedi Chancellors such as Your Grace have served to guide both the Republic and Order through many a storm.

>Another such measure was more extreme. controversial, and, sadly, probably necessary. Drawing a security cordon around the Core, the Colonies, and part of the Inner Rim, the Republic deactivated the hyperspace relays beyond. Both navigational and message relays were affected. Instantaneous communication with most of the Outer Rim ceased -- as did communication between those Rimworlds. No longer would the Sith Lords be able to easily exploit the existing Republic systems to speed their own conquests; hyperspace couriers came back into use across much of the galaxy.

>Perhaps more importantly, the action robbed the Sith of access to the constantly updated Republic database of hyperspace lanes. Many smaller vessels depend on hyperspace buoys to provide information as to their own location and other destinations; now, in many cases, Sith fliers are limited to the coordinates they bring with them. Scouting missions have revealed that some Sith Lords have constructed their own rudimentary hyperspace relay networks (in some cases, reverse-engineering or reactivating our own buoys), but thankfully, that has been a limited phenomenon. Most Sith genuinely do not know what lies beyond the stellar horizon -- and that has greatly added to the protection of the Republic. Our "firewall" is one of void and interstellar dust, using the vast distances between stars to slow the Sith spread.

>The Republic has thus managed to preserve a good deal of what our civilization has accomplished. The same, sadly, cannot be said for the locations outside the cordon, where great libraries and storehouses of ancient wisdom have been taken by Sith invaders, destroyed, or both. Technological advancement has, in large measure, stagnated in areas under Sith control. There is little commercial incentive for innovation; some Sith areas have no units of exchange at all, with all manufacturing done by slave labor or droids.

>There are corporations that continue to function under Sith rule; as will be seen, some Sith Lords permit firms to continue functioning in their space, provided they reap the rewards. The Republic has strongly encouraged all corporations with operations in Sith territory to withdraw behind the cordon, not just for the safety of their employees, but so that current Republic technology does not fall into Sith hands.

>So the Republic survives, though much smaller than it had once been. (The popular term "rump Republic" is distasteful, but does describe what remains.) The Jedi spend much of their year at the frontier, with only some of their time devoted to their traditional duties of keeping order on Republic worlds. Republic military forces battle valiantly to protect the frontiers from further encroachment -- and while engagements continue, the good news, if it can be called that, is that many of our opponents seem more interested in fighting each other than invading the Republic. Prolonging this period of disunity among the Sith is one of the goals of my efforts in general, and Operation Influx in particular.

So, with these conditions established: How much does the Galactic Civil War change?

Yes, this is also assuming that the Krytos Virus is ready earlier in the timeline for the sake of a more fun scenario.

So I've been wondering about Darth Nox's abilities and just what they can and cant do.

Round 1: Can Darth Nox do whatever it is that Predor Skal'nas did to Daegen Lok in Dawn of the Jedi? (Images 2, 3 and 4). Bonus Question: What about Khem Val? Can he do that as well?
Round 2: Can Darth Nox, relying on the bond with the Force Walked spirits, survive the same injuries Darth Sion suffered?
Round 3: Can Darth Nox do this? (Minimum feat required to pass this round is to be able to drain a city)
Round 4: If Darth Nox is cut off from the Force, will his bond with the spirits allow him to keep using the Force much like how the bonds Meetra Surik formed allowed her to use the Force?
Round 5: Can Darth Nox survive Nihilus' drain like Kreia or Surik did?
Round 6: Can Darth Nox enter the Spirit World at will using the Dream Walking ritual and control the creatures and spirits inside the Spirit World much like The Curse can? Can Nox even use the Dream Walking ritual offensively?

Quite interested in everyone's thoughts and why you think that Nox passes or stops at certain rounds.

Frankly, I'm not quite sure if the difficulty order for these rounds is even accurate.
Bonus Round (because I dont know where to place it): Can Darth Nox access the knowledge of the bound spirits?

So i've been thinking about the Force Walking ritual and there are some things which I cant quite understand about it.

1. The player character survives their encounter with Thanaton due to Force Walking. The damage is also implied to be physical iirc. However, if the player character is also the Outlander, they are dying due to carbonite poisoning. Thus, my question is, just how useful really is Force Walking? Would a Sith inquisitor have been able to, in theory, have Sion-like feats of immortality despite their body's physical death? Adding to that question; Is a single ghost enough to achieve this sort of immortality? Whats the benefit of so many ghosts aside from just getting more power?

If my memory serves me right, during the Voss class mission, the Si can tell one of the ghosts that if the SI dies, so do they. Whats up with that? Or am I simply misrembering?

2. So aside from that bit about immortality, Force Walking lets someone use the powers of whoever it is they bound. So, what exactly are the benefits of Force Walking over, say, just consuming spirits (like Tulak Hord did, since in fact the Force Walking ritual started as an attempt to copy Hord's ritual)/draining life force from someone? Is it just this questionable immortality?

The character's name is Rajine.
Its not every day you see someone manage to drain the life force out of everyone that steps inside a city and ends up becoming a zombie, and to see Windu himself struggle against that. And this is taken into consideration the fact that there was a Force Barrier erected to just to keep her contained.

Naddist Onderon (the naddist army at Iziz, Warb Null, Freedon Nadd's spirit, King Ommin, Queen Amanoa) + Aleema Keto and Satal Keto (Satal's feats from the audiodrama of Tales of the Jedi, such as him having a somewhat decent fight against Ulic, are allowed).

Rules: Neither Iziz nor Onderon itself can be destroyed. So no bombing Iziz from orbit until its just a crater.

Beast Riders do not fight.

Round 1: Mandalore the Indomitable and his mandalorian crusaders
Round 2: Trade Federation forces from TPM and TPM Maul (EU feats only for both).
Round 3: Desann and his Reborn (Tavion and Galak Fyyar are included)
Round 4: The Army of Light
Round 5: Republic and Sith Oricon Strike teams (including the Barsenthor, Hero of Tython, Wrath and Darth Nox)

Dooku as Thragg holding Andeddu's holocron or Syfo Dyas' skull , unmasked Durge as Conquest, Asajj as Thula, Sev rance tann as Anissa, Grievous as Lucan maybe. Lol

A very random team composition I know.
Skere Kaan, Aleema Keto, Countess Rajine, Streen, Kazdan Paratus and Sion.

Skere Kaan with his battle meditation, Aleema Keto with her Illusions, Rajine with her ability to drain life force and create zombies, Streen with his ability to create weather storms, Kazdan with his control over droids and Sion with his immortality.

-Skere Kaan leads the team
-Team loses after every single member dies.
-The Dread Fortress/Dread Palace is replaced with the Junk Jedi Temple from The Force Unleashed.

How do they fare against the Republic and Sith strike teams? If the strike team isnt enough, which army, from any era seen and seen in any story, would be capable of beating these guys? Superweapons not allowed.