u/BillyBurner59

Close contact at Dundee engine plant says it is an absolute nightmare, and the entire design is a dud but was forced to go into production with concerns known well in advance. Dealerships getting backlogged with endless warranty work on them. Anyone from engineering spill the beans yet on true root cause besides the obvious excessive pressure and knock? I was involved on the development but got shuffled around before they announced we’re launching this piece of shit.

Say you’re at the dinner table with some relatives. They ask what’s going on in your life, you say you’re out shopping for a new car. The word Stellantis comes up. Uncle chuckles and says buy one, you’ll help keep my business busy! (He runs an auto repair shop).

Stellantis/Chrysler/Fiat/Dodge/FCA, whatever the general public refers their cars as, carries a negative image. Poorly engineered, cheaply made and unreliable crap that nobody wants to keep long term. The outdated platforms. The electronic nightmares. The depreciation. The poor dealership experience parts&service system. The general ownership experience. The consistent lack of ranking high in long term dependability outside of a few products which are mostly solid (Wrangler and Durango and Pacifica)

You have gutted the institutional knowledge and outsourced and/or contract hired a mass of foreign engineers who either aren’t capable or aren’t given empowerment to engineer quality stuff that the bean counters can sign off on because it’s not from the bottom of the barrel supplier for a super cheap cost. You rush R&D and deal with electrical lemons because you want to launch 30 new products in the next few years. You refuse to continuously improve decades-known flaws in your engines. Our customer retention ranks one of the lowest of any car brand. Our supplier relationships rank dead last. Our dealership experiences rank near last.

Renovate CTC top to bottom. Doesn’t matter. Put a Hellcat in the new Charger platform. Doesn’t matter. Go on a huge hiring spree of contract workers to help push the ambitions Filosa has for 2030. None of it will matter if the general public continues to think Stellantis produces a shit product. Read a page out of Toyota’s philosophy of quality management and getting better at continuously improving your product. Because Stellantis is reading Enshittification.

Didn’t see any meeting emails about it

I’ve been here 8 months and between my 5 regular contacts at CTC who came from GM in Warren and all of my connections who have either been laid off or are desperately trying to escape GM, Stellantis has been a breath of fresh air. We are not without issues, it’s been a chaotic clusterfuck for a long time now and there’s a lot of bullshit. But GM operates in the most cutthroat, every man for himself till the last one stands mentality. Trying to backstab fellow team members when forced stack ranking had already eliminated the 5% of under performers and there’s no slackers left to cut, but they still have to. They have been slashing jobs harder than any company I know in the industry. I was starting to consider dark thoughts when I was in Warren and it almost ruined my marriage.

I’m still very skeptical about the Filosa era but time will tell, there is so much damage to rebuild from here.. I know people in the Big 3 hop between companies often, please do your research before you consider leaving, it’s not much greener elsewhere in the auto industry right now.

Been here for 7 months and wanna update my LinkedIn. Nobody has ever heard of my third party agency who simply signs the paycheck. Most of the other external employees I’ve seen on LinkedIn use Stellantis as well. The only thing is I would make sure to add a note of Contract - External via *agency name* on my Resume for background checks but that sounds silly for LinkedIn.

Met some people in the hallways today that were on their first day. Both of them were from GM who has been laying off nonstop since middle of 2025. Kind of pleasant to hear during otherwise endless negative auto industry news. They were in product development and engineering, anyone else notice an influx today?