u/Caulipower_fan

dont get me its wrong, the soul modes returning are really cool and tend to add more variety to the boss fights but I don't like how the green soul mode was used in chapter 4, specifically the gerson fight

the problem i have with this is specifically when the green square turns into a octogan, and the specific problem with the octogan in the gerson fight is the controls and they're really terrible

Deltarune is a computer game designed to be played around on a keyboard and when your playing on a keyboard, the octogan is really annoying to control and the arrow keys are terrible, and no this isnt a "skill issue" because many of gerson's attacks are easy to memorize and the more damage you get, gerson lowers it, you have to keep on pressing two arrow keys at once and keep focus and if you dont your gonna get damaged and whats annoying about gerson's fight is that you have to entirely rely on susie's healing which takes like 80% of TP and its just annoying

I still remember the wait before Chapter 5, I was excited yet scared, I was scared i might not get to play the chapter early and get spoiled but at the same time i was very concerned with how the main trio will face each other after Chapter 4's ending and i was listening to endless fan songs of chapter 5 itself and looking at many cool concepts and designs as well theorycrafting too, I also jumped right at the moment i saw the toby dog in the nintendo direct and i felt really excited, I really had my hopes high for it and one of the things that i hoped for the MOST to NOT happen to is it just being chapter 3 all over again, which is pretty much what happened

First off, the things I liked about chapter 5:

- I like Seth and Aqua, their relationship is really charming

- It has some bangers like Flower Man, Shop 3, The festival theme, Petal Dance, "That day", Pirate Dojo

- Sans undertale

- Despite me never playing the weird route, it has gotten pretty interesting more than ever and im looking forward to see whats next for it

- The Sunset of Seven Suns's backgrounds looks really gorgeous

- I like the maxing up of the difficulty

- I like the new sidescroll mechanic, it feels like a new and fresh change to the game, and Kris's animations for it reminded me of those old school sprite animation videos and i like it

- The idea of the Shadow Crystals being revealed to be lost dreams is very creative and clever and a nice subversion on everyone expecting it to just be "Determination" which is just cliche and boring and it also makes lots of scene considering the placement of the crystals I may have forgotten something but that's about it

Now for the things I hate about Chapter 5:

- The Festival is just underwhelming and shallow and The suselle scenes just feel like a Fanfic, Waking up just to find susie already in castle town and preparing for her "date" with noelle just feels anticlimactic, back then susie never entered castle town without kris being around for her and thats what made it special to the both of them, The Festival doesnt have much to offer besides some optional dialogue talks and The hammer minigame, and the Ferris wheel which has been hyped up ever since Chapter 2 just turned to just be a damn black screen, like seriously? All this hype for nothing?, at the end all shifts around to involving susie and noelle's romance which hasnt even had a week to properly develop, with kris geuinely feeling like the ""dude"" nobody invited, I hate this scene is mandatory and not optional like the ferris wheel scene in chapter 2, I wanted the festival to Kris, Susie and Noelle feeling like actual friends but nope its all just suselle shit, I also dislike how we dont even get to ses characters like Asriel or Carol aside from them being briefly mentioned, we could have known more about Carol and her personality or finally see asriel after being anticipated for years but nope, it isnt a big problem but still disappointing nonetheless

- Castle Town is even more shallow than the festival with everybody just putting all their focus on susie's date with noelle and there isnt really anything new to do there outside a new rhythm minigame and a small church place with a piano with different fonts which is neat and a climbing minigame based on that timing puzzle from somewhere in chapter 4 that either rewards you with original starwalker or femboy ralsei, also tasque manager is now a nun for god knows what reason, alongside that you just get a joke battle against Nubert, Trashy and some random NPC from chapter 1 that doesn't even take place in the dojo which literally just defeats the whole purpose of the dojo itself, also the mikes come in after sometime and dub the freedom motif as "the battat motif" basically turning the motif into a complete joke, also ralsei gets his room decorated, which is neat and all but kinda removes the atmosphere the empty room had in chapter 4, not really a problem but still thought was worth mentioning

- I hate the whole "nOstLaGia" thing and how its just excused for the first third of the dark world just being a lazy reskin of chapter 1's areas, enemies and themes, I get the feeling of nostalgia but i hate how its just used to justify the unnecessary and lazy reskins of Chapter 1's npcs and areas it just feels pathetic, The Garden is literally just a recolored version of the field of hopes and dreams without having anything that makes it actually stand out from not being a sloppy reskin and actually unique, I just hate how this chapter reskins Chapter 1's areas, themes and NPCs so pretend that its "themed around nostalgia" when we already had a nostalgia based chapter in Chapter 3 even if chapter 3 didnt do the nostalgia feeling too well, it's certainly better than lazy reskins like this, I opened the chapter expecting to explore a vast paradise filled with pink and gold flowers just as gerson said, not this

- I dont hate Flowery, he is alright and I prefer him over queen and tenna and Flower Man (ESPECIALLY with the vocals) Absolutely SLAPS, but im just disappointed at the fact that it's another "haha funny quirky antagonist" when we already had like 3 before, Lancer in chapter 1, Queen in chapter 2, Tenna i chapter 3, with the King and The Knight being the only ones who feel like actual threats and are geuine villains, The anime intro and voice lines arent needed and are just there to make him more "quirky" and i just dont like it and just a lot of his lines just becoming meme to shitpost about 24/7, Again I dont hate flowery as a character but i hate the fact it's another quirky antagonist who's actually good and misunderstood and does quirky things and says quirky lines that be reposted as memes all throughout the internet as shitposts when we already had like 3 of these before

- The Seven Flowers are alright but dissatisfying, Im happy that this chapter has much more flashed out characters than the previous chapters, but the part im just very dissatisfied with is their designs, I hate how their designs are just colored humans without anything Floral or Flower-themed about them at all, and they barely even match their flower counterparts in the light world, Aqua just has black hair out of nowhere, Seth's purple barely matches that of the purple flower, Blue's colors are literally inverted and dont get me started on Yellow, I dont even know where this whole "Flowers = Humans" thing came from, like why cant they be monsters?, and I just HATE how orange is literally a rat for some reason, I really wanted them to humanoid flower children, not one of them being a fucking rat, I'm not saying their designs are bad but they just dont work at all, also I hate yellow's woody design, it just feels like fan service for get woody theory believers to shut up about woody and I never liked green's design either and i always thought they looked like a weird bootleg hunched up muppet

- Asgore has no actual importance to this chapter and merely feels like a plot device, dont get me wrong I do understand why he doesn't have a fight but even then he geuinely doesn't do jackshit at all, all he does is focus on whatever "incident" happened that he was vagueposting about and fantasying about killing the knight, He doesnt even make the fountain, its just kris again and He rarely so appears and he doesnt pay attention to the flowers who's apparent goal is to make him happy, the only moment where he does shit is when he kicks kris and susie out of the dark world, He gets no character development no nothing at all, and at the end he just gets ass kidnapped by the knight without showing any mere resistance against said knight, Asgore is one of my favourite UNDERTALE characters and it's upsetting to see him get done dirty like this, he doesn't even get a decent dark world design at all as his design looks like dogshit, we all thought he would get some cool flower themed armor but instead its just this big ugly and plain gold armor and somehow it's missing everything that made it look good in Undertale

- back in the 3/4 era, many people (including me) knew that the knight wasnt gonna be revealed in chapter 5 and im perfectly fine with that but i was expecting atleast something that would make it more clear and obvious who it is but nope, The knight doesn't appear until the very last minutes of the chapter, apparently being able to carry asgore and trap him into a bubble without any challenge until they bum into the wall like a idiot and flowery comes in and try to "beat it" using fake stats which doesn't do shit and just results in him dying, and the new information we got about the knight basically made everything more vague than it already was, pretty much just adding more fuel to the fire that being the discourse about the knight's identity

- Despite there being some good songs, Most of the music isnt that interesting, "Who might you be?" Is just lazily reused for like 4 different themes, "From Now on" is nowhere to be found ss it got replaced by a worst version of Rude buster that just sounds like a shallow kirby song without having the vibe of Deltarune's OST gives, "Weirder Birds" and "Garden of Hopes and Dreams" just lazy remixes of old Chapter 1 soundtrack just for the sake of "nOsTloGiA", Also where the hell is Bergentruckung??, that's literally Asgore's main theme and the intro that plays before he shatters the mercy button, we dont even get the original motif and just a modified version of it from Asgore's boss theme and it just doesn't make sense as did toby forget or what?, also "FLOWER KING" fucking sucks as a theme, you could say this is a nitpick but whatever

- I dont like Susie or Ralsei's characterisations here, Susie just wont stfu about Noelle and Ralsei's attitude towards Flowery just make him feel like a weird tsundere, I do get the point that Ralsei is finally not having to be always kind and sometimes be rude but it just comes off as weird, Like for what reason does he even hate Flowery?, is he just jealous Flowery has "meta knowledge" like him or what?, But Susie is definitely a worse offender, She wont shut up about Noelle and just completely pushes Kris and their feelings aside just for her half-assed romance for Noelle that didnt even get a literal week to develop, She thinks its a good idea to bring Noelle and that Noelle can help them defeat the knight when in reality, it wont make anything better, especially on a aborted Chapter 4/5 weird route where Noelle actually found out that her "dream" was real and she didn't "get carried away", Pushing the weird route aside, it isnt any better in the normal route either, Susie is somehow dumb to believe that Noelle can help them defeat the knight and stop whatever the knight's plan is but in reality Noelle cant do anything against the Knight because No matter who the knight is, its always someone whos very connected to her, It could be her lost sister who she hasnt seen ever since she was a toddler, it could her Harsh but Loving mother, It could her terminally ill dying father or it could be Her sister's boyfriend who she grew up and was childhood friends with, And Susie's Two braincells thinks that bringing Noelle into her and Kris's Dark world shenanigans will somehow help their plan against the knight but in reality it will just make things worse, especially for noelle herself, Susie also just neglects Kris and pretty not pay any attention to their feelings at all, Pushing Noelle aside, Susie also acts like she has dementia and that the fact she literally fought a mindless demigod and saw the literal end of the world be prophesied, She literally acts like none of that happened and just behaves like nothing happened and somehow doesn't realise that shit is getting serious all until Asgore gets kidnapped and thats where she decides "its not fun adventures anymore" when she could have realised that in chapter 3's ending

- The "one last Fun adventure" thing could have been used in a way to make the Chapter feel bittersweet, trying to feel happy while also having a serious tone to it but it was implemented so terribly it literally wouldnt make much difference if you literally swaps the placements of 5 and 4 together, it makes it feel like Chapter 4 just never happened and just felt like it threw away everything Chapter 4 established, I get this is "one last fun adventure" but it doesn't mean you should make it feel like it Chapter 4 never happened,

Conclusion:

- I may have forgotten may some stuff bt i think what i said is enough, I personally dont have any grudge against Toby Fox or his team as people but I honestly feel like I cant trust Toby anymore on what hes gonna do with whats left of the story and its major parts, he might either just end it ambiguously like what happened with OMORI or Mother 3 or make a ending that is so badly written it basically shits on the entire story like what happened with digital c*crus but lets just not overthink too much and atleast Hope,

- I'm looking forward for chapter 6 and a christmas dark world inside the Holiday mansion, if we aren't gonna get a fight against asgore, then atleast give us one against Carol

- Thats what all i will say for now, I dont hate this chapter but it and chapter 3 are definitely the lowest two for me

(i wrote this script yesterday and waited some time until i can post it to reddit but when i pasted it, it was basically jumbled up for some reason so i had to organize it in order to make it readable and get my points across, also the points about Castle town and the knight were added just at the last moment lol)

I have said this many times and i really dont wanna repeat myself nor make myself look immature,

I do not like Pink at all, I havent even fought her and yet i already hate her, I geuinely really dont understand what even is the decision behind her being the secret boss and what the DR team was just thinking when they made this decision

My main problem is with her being the secret boss,

if she was just another NPC or a shopkeeper i honestly couldnt care less about her,

We could have had a very cool and fitting boss for the LAST shadow crystal, Like A red flower based on Chara, Asgore's (pretty abandoned looking) TV, some old abandoned Flowers or Asgore himself but nope

the secret boss is just....mad mew mew from Undertale, who already was given her own fight and even her own theme in the switch version, there was literally no need to reusing her again

she just feels like a obvious joke character even if she has some "lore" to her, there was no need for a boss that parallels Kris, we already had Spamton and he was fine enough, She doesn't fit the dark world either, its supposed to be a FLOWER dark world so why are we not getting a FLOWER themed secret boss instead?,

I just dont even understand why people would even defend her with this is geuinely one of the worst choices Toby fox did, its honestly like toby just saw Kit from gameoverse and just wanted to have his own catgirl that his fanbase would goon to, as if tasque manager wasnt enough

(also the poses she does are cringe and the hatsune miku bs i keep seeing joked about is cringe too, her theme isnt even good minus like one part of it)

TL,DR: I dont like that shes the secret boss, and the LAST shadow crystal holder, thats it and its geuinely one of the worst choices ever made when she has already been used for Undertale switch version https://youtu.be/iXONIHQ\_4KQ?si=ggJO18VlOzqoR\_9U

Hello, I have heard that fan content is prevalent in the angry birds community and its pretty much whats carrying the franchise as of this point but I havent really seen any AB fangames or mods as much i did for other communities like PvZ for example, are there any fangames or mods you guys would suggest?