Firecracker, Natural Athlete and Iron Turtle slice-of-life / Firecracker training and improving
"The Four Horsemen of Florida Ice Cream Trucking"
The 3 hitmen doing hitman shenanigans
Tempest fighting through several japanese underground organisations
Yeti Gaiden
El Cucaracho's continuous search for peace
Violence Incarnate's search for "true strength"
Sonic-Boom and The Arm Thief travelling together
I know VI wins of course. But how would it play out? How would ICT do against base VI? And would he force VI to use Elixir?
Tier list of everyone with some significance (or aura) from the side stories or the "NPCs" from the main story.
I've included one of the 32 convicts in each tier to give some clarification as to what power level I think everyone is around.
Mostly based on vibes and the scarce knowledge we have.
Also, this list is only based on h2h, which is why someone like Roald isn't included.
From S+ to E:
S+
- "Mr. Pre-Initiative" (evaded the arguable best shooter in the verse, 6 times, gives off crazy-strong vibes. Has to be top tier)
S
- Alien abductee (I think the implication is that he has some insane body-altering abilites, and did win a Colosseum. Mostly based on vibe though)
- Houdini (I think he could magic bs his way out of most things)
A
- Violence Incarnate's father (master of Tam Qui Khi-Kong, a physical powerhouse)
- Pecs (Is absolutely massive. If he truly is a master of Aikido he should at least be here)
- "Bigfoot" (former champion. Stated to have claimed his freedom the easiest in nearly a hundred years of Colosseums, which is why I have him above the other implied brute force guys)
B
- Don Jefe (former champion, physical powerhouse)
- "The Bear" (great conditioning, stated to be equal to Don Jefe by the man himself)
C
- "The Brimstone Bomber (champion of Arizona's underground fight scene. I think it's fair to place him here)
- Senpai at Scorching Tempest's dojo (seems quite skilled and confident, and if he is even half as strong as Scorching Tempest he is more than deserving of being here)
D
- Dojo master (one of the sickest designs snd auras. Jobbed in seconds to pre-prison Monkey See though)
- Jack Channie (legendary stuntman, kicked the shit out of Danger during their scenes together)
- Karmic Blade's father (assumed master of Kalaripayattu)
- T-Venom (prisoner the same place as Scorching Tempest. His right-hand man made it to the semi-finals of a recent Colosseum)
E
- Asshole dad (the dad who tasted Scorching Tempest's ace. Absolute fodder)
A few of them aren't the last panel of them, but the last of which their face is visible
A few of them aren't the last panel of them, but the last of which their face is visible
This match is interesting because of both Florida Man's superhuman endurance and the inconsistence of his overall power.
On one hand Florida Man took a severe beating, on the other hand he looked mostly fine afterwards.
What do you guys think?
I made The Abyss vs. Tomahawk difficulty post yesterday, and now I wanna find out what you guys think in regards to a bunch of other matches. Starting with this one!
What do you guys think?
Since people have very different opinions on what makes a match difficult or not, and I've seen it rated from mid diff all the way to extreme diff.
I'm interested in learning what the majority thinks!
Ofc, feel free to comment if you wanna state your opinion as well!
I've made a collection of collages of every tactics Pete borrows from the other convicts, put together with the convict who uses it first.
I have all the confirmed ones, along with a few I found very comparable.
The leg sweeps are comparable in the sense that both swings their legs in an upwards arc, brings them down fast and then does the sweep.
The "Rolling Thunder" technique is very Capoeira-esque in the sense that it uses rotational, angular movement to generate momentum for the kick.
The thing Beatdown does dashing around trying to enter EC's blind spot.
I can't for the life of me figure out what the borrowed tactic the kick to the back of the neck is. If anyone has figured out what it is let me know!
The closest I can find are 2 of the native techniques Tomahawk uses against Violence Incarnate. All consists o a grapple transitioning into an upwards kick to the head region.
I've seen some people say other convicts outside the semi-finalists can beat him, I've seen some people say he is stronger than Pete and El Cucaracho.
I'm interested to see what the majority actually think?
I personally suspect the majority could be anywhere from 3rd to 5th strongest.
I know Pete isn't copying Beatdown directly here, but he is doing basically the same thing, just way crazier
Even though he is arguably among the weaker half of all the convicts, and one of the weakest R2 losers, this man is still one of the absolute goats of Convict Colosseum!
He has one of the the smallest statures of all the convicts, being the shortest and just barely outweighs Monkey See, who's the lightest.
He created his own aggressive defense, giving hima unique way to combine the explosive, powerful Lethwei and tough conditioning with his small frame.
Despite his small size he is among the stronger half in regards to physical stats, out-statting several others convicts larger than him.
His grit and resilience is one of his most defining features. Despite literally shaking from fear of facing Pete, he went out into the arena.
He shrugged off powerful blows from Natural Athlete, a convict in prime physical form and quite a bit larger than Firecracker.
He took a severe beating from Pete, who while still holding back, were still delivering fast, powerful and precise kicks. He acknowledged his own shortcomings, and let Pete shower him with kicks before passing out still standing.
He knocked out Natural Athlete, aforementioned larger convict, with only a short combo of strikes.
He managed to crack one of Pete's ribs with a single strike and bruise his arms and nose with a headbutt.
He was praised by peers, inferiors and superiors alike.
He took down nearly 20 "regular" convicts ganging up on him!
Praise be to, and all hail Convict Colosseums smallest GOAT, FIRECRACKER!
I know he passed out moments later, but the fact that Tomahawk even got up and threw a semi-punch speaks volumes of the man's grit and resilience.
The only other fighters I'm certain would get up from the same beating are El Cucaracho, Florida Man, Rawdog and Violence incarnate himself.
Someone else I'm guessing would get up too are Firecracker, Samoan and perhaps ICT and Scourge.
The age old question. These 2 are both narratively and by the fandom viewed as near equals. Who has solid arguments as to who beats the other?
Let me hear your takes!
Let's do 2 rounds:
R1: They match up against each other in first round of the tournament, which means they have no prior knowledge of eachother.
R2: they match up against each other in R3, meaning they would have seen each others' R1 and R2 matches.
This is gonna be a bit different than a "regular" ranking, in the sense that I'm gonna split it in 3 "groups".
I know it's a bit unorthodox with a top 12 and not top 10, but I couldn't decide among the 4 in the third group lol.
None of the 3 grounds are ordered.
The first group are the, imo, undisputed top 5 with best BIQ, though in difference ways.
The second are, while not quite on the level of the top 5, still tactical/strategic, analytical and/or mid-fight deductive.
The third and final group are convicts who doesn't have any real, of few feats of good in-combat BIQ due to losing in R1. They make up for it by being incredibly knowledgable, insightful and deductive while watching the tournament from the stands.
The rest doesn't necessarily has bad BIQ, but they either have more simple strategies, none at all or are just downright weird af.
Honorable mention to Monkey See, who, while having terrible BIQ while in combat, is actually a really insightful and knowledgable individual. In large part aided by his superhuman kinetic vision.
I might do a more analytical and specific post about BIQ at a later time.