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I feel like being in a relationship with V is too much of a burden for Panam.
I've been thinking about the romance with Panam in the 'Star' ending. I feel like after Panam becomes the leader of the Aldecaldos, a relationship with V isn't a good idea. Leading the clan seems to be overwhelming for her as it is, and on top of that, she has to deal with a dying V whom she cannot help. Because of this, I interpret the messages from Panam and Judy in this ending differently. The message from Panam feels genuinely heartbreaking to me.
I only just noticed this interesting detail
Question about Judy's ending how does V know about her dream?
I have a question regarding the Tower ending At the very end, V states that Judy got exactly what she always dreamed of. V says this in response to learning that Judy got married. But how does V even know that Judy dreamed of starting a family? I’ve played through Judy’s storyline about 30 times, and she never shares this kind of information not in dialogues, and not in text messages. I feel like this topic was completely pulled out of thin air by the writers regarding V's knowledge in this ending
I feel like the writers messed up here. V seems to be using knowledge they could only have acquired in a completely different ending specifically The Star. Judy mentions this during their trip to Arizona with the Nomads. But since the events of The Star never happen if you choose The Tower ending, it should be physically impossible for V to know this.
A few questions about Edgerunners
1.Was the series just as dramatic for you as the events in the game?
2.What was your take on David's implants? It honestly kind of grossed me out how huge he got
- Do you find David and Lucy's relationship believable?
Self-interest above all else
In the add-on, there is an interesting quote: 'Songbird, there are no choices that are good for everyone. Sometimes you have to make a choice that is only good for you.' And indeed, both V and Songbird can make such a move in the DLC endings: Songbird by flying to the moon, and V by turning Songbird over to Reed
Why Judy is Unfairly Blamed in The Tower Ending
I've noticed that many people misinterpret Judy's behavior in "The Tower" ending. When V flies off to Langley, they don't leave her any message (if they are in a romance), which makes Judy think that Arasaka finally caught up with us. Despite that, she still waited two years before moving on. She explicitly mentions this if V accuses her of betrayal: "Two years, V. I couldn't handle it, I kept thinking about you and Evelyn." Only after leaving Night City did she meet her future love, Bianca. I don't know why the developers decided that you can only leave a message for non-romanced characters. That's why I think it's entirely V's fault, plain and simple.
I think it was very close to V returning to Judy before she left for good. I believe Judy simply couldn't stand being in the dark anymore. When V asks her how she could do that, Judy says: "Two years, V. I was dwelling on things. First Evelyn, then you. I couldn't stay in Night City, I wouldn't have been able to cope. Because of that, I met Bianca." I think Judy got married very quickly, within just a few months of leaving, rather than after a long-term relationship.
Here are the most interesting narrative inconsistencies and oversights I found regarding Judy's storyline
Judy vs. Awareness of Johnny Silverhand's Presence After saving Evelyn, the game allows V to hide Johnny's existence from Judy up to three times. Under normal circumstances, I would expect unique dialogue options during the Pizza Party and Pyramid Song if you exhausted all choices to keep Johnny a secret. Instead, after some time, Judy sends a text message where V can choose the option: Johnny says hi. I thought the game would have a unique exchange for this specific scenario, but unfortunately, Judy immediately responds by saying she didn't know he knew she existed completely bypassing the fact that V had never told her about Johnny in the first place.
The Suicide Ending If you do not romance Judy, she leaves Night City right after the Pyramid Song quest. Despite this, if V chooses to take their own life in the finale, Judy sends a heartbreaking holocall message recorded from inside her Night City apartment completely ignoring the fact that she is supposed to be somewhere else entirely at that point in the story.
Roof Conversation with Judy When V asks Judy on the roof what she felt during the dive, Judy replies: Death. The oversight here is that during Pyramid Song, this topic never even came up Judy never mentioned feeling anything of the sort during the actual dive.
Judy's Text Message Regarding the Voodoo Boys Playing as female V, if you reply to Judy's text about the Voodoo Boys by saying you haven't found them yet, Judy replies with: "Bet you do". This makes absolutely no sense in the context of the text conversation. It is a recycled dialogue line from the pier right before the dive, where V tells Judy she looks great in a wetsuit.
"The Devil" Ending Non-Romanced If you call Judy during this ending, you get her voicemail. In the recording, she states she is busy packing and says: "If that's you, V, maybe I'll pick up when I'm done being pissed at you". This is bizarre and illogical since she had already decided to leave on her own, and V never informed her about planning any kind of operation with Arasaka.
How do you deal with the void after the credits roll?
I’ve finished the game 10 times and I still feel unsatisfied. I believe my ending was exactly what I wanted, and I wouldn’t change it because every other alternative is even worse. Still, the 'Star' ending makes me feel like it’s the beginning of the story rather than its end. How did you deal with this? Do you feel the same way about your ending?
Are you satisfied with the game's endings?
Are you generally satisfied with the game's endings? I don't want to judge which one is better or worse. I feel that none of the endings provide a complete sense of closure for the story, yet they don't leave any room for a continuation either. Each ending effectively concludes the game, and there is virtually nothing left to tell about the current characters that would feel credible.
If provocation had a name, it would look like this.
Judy must have loved Night City before she started to hate it.
Goodbye Night City, I hope it is forever.
Is there a bug with Judy? When I tell her I haven't found the Voodoo Boys, she replies 'I can imagine' the line intended for 'Pyramid Song' when V says she looks great in the wetsuit. It seems the game triggers wrong text messages and dialogue from that quest.
Is the saddest and sweetest message in the credits from Judy?
Why is the story of Judy so credible and interesting to you? I am curious if that is actually the case or if it works differently
Is the ending of The Sun a death in glory, and is The Star variation of a calm human life?
In The Star ending, V uses the remaining time to spend it with Panam or Judy. In The Sun ending, V dies during the mission for Mr. Blue Eyes, passing away in a blaze of glory.