u/CredulousSkeptic2

Thoughts? This hypothetical is based on testimony of people like Clifford Stone and Jason Sands (see also Jason Sands). Sands (x.com/JasonTSands) said that one of his sort-of colleagues straight-up executed a jailed prisoner (grey alien) by shooting him in the head — after Sands refused to do it himself. And Steven Greer and others have said that numerous people have been killed to protect the UFO/exotic technology secrets. The (supposed) truth may come at a certain moral price. Given the huge information asymmetry between the people in the know and the rest of us, if this exchange were even an option (which I doubt it would ever be), it kind of seems like we’d have no choice and I would definitely consider it.

THREE TYPES OF SHAPESHIFTING
It seems we can distinguish three kinds of shapeshifting. First there is the real biological kind of shapeshifting where beings would truly alter their biology, changing their cells. This would be the method of the Kiily Tokurt (3). Another variant is the one where the inner perception is altered of those watching. Below you can read how a reptilian lady describes something that can be understood as a ‘perception switch’ in our brain. People think they see a particular shape, whereas the real biological shape of the objects hasn’t altered at all. This can easily be used in groups.

The last variant that I have come across is more of a holographic nature: certain beings like the Mantids (6) would be capable of creating holographic sceneries around people that could form the perfect illusion of all kinds of beings that seem to have a different shape than their real biological shape.

Many of us are aware of the strict laws of nature known as conservation of momentum and conservation of energy (first law of thermodynamics). Depending on the specific subject that one studies — be it, for example, high-energy physics, aerospace engineering, biotechnology, or materials science — these principles are recast into different equations that people in the STEM fields apply in problem-solving exercises so it is ingrained early on. There is a well-justified belief that no one has ever or will ever in our lifetimes invent any device that violates these laws. Even people on the cutting edge in the relevant fields do not anticipate it. It is probably not an understatement to say that tens of thousands of life career decisions have been made on this well-justified belief.

What people have to understand is that — at least generally speaking — mainstream physics agrees that IF you can “pull energy out of the vacuum” or modify the local gravitational field without moving masses, then time travel, portals, and so on are all possible (I’m a scientist, fwiw).

If Hal Puthoff, Eric Davis, Bill Uhouse, William Tompkins, UAP Gerb, Bob Lazar, Philip Corso, Haim Eshed, Edgar Mitchell, Ross Coulthart, Richard Dolan, Steven Greer, Andrew Basiago, Michael Salla, Edgar Fouché, [continue long list of UFO leakers, scientific researchers, whistleblowers, insiders, investigators, and witnesses] are right, then the secret agencies have in fact discovered a whole set of physical regimes — and devices to construct/access them — that do violate these laws of physics as we know them and which have in turn enabled real-life science-fiction-type capabilities. Not only are the secret agencies agreed upon by most of the above to have developed — and to routinely deploy — antigravity vehicles of various shapes and sizes since the 1950s, but they have also been alleged and/ or speculated by several people to have developed devices that are capable of teleportation and time travel. (As most of the NHI civilizations allegedly visiting earth are generally theorized to have done. So, the argument goes, why couldn’t the human secret agencies have done so?)

And we should remain open to the possibility that the secret agencies have discovered formulas to access these capabilities using only materials found on earth — i.e., without exotic materials.

Without the constraints of “usual physics”, the technologies are theoretically capable of being used for civilization-endangering weapons that could be developed by a lot of different groups. Even someone doing garage tinkering could theoretically become a supreme terrorist without a lot of effort.

If this is the case, then true disclosure would have to entail the knowledge that such a thing is possible, if not the specific formulas themselves.

If this is case, the scientific community would be humiliated, among other institutional issues.

So if this is all true, then, socially, we can’t have real disclosure. The dynamics of society would change so much.

The upside is that there would be no energy scarcity, and a lot of abundance, after a few years.

(As per the rules, I would link to wiki encyclopedia pages on the website in my profile to give more background on each of the above concepts, technologies, people, programs, practices, etc. but since I’ve done that before, Reddit has seemingly given me an automatic no-warning sitewide ban for doing this in the past, so I’m trying to stay clear of that.)

In physics, we learn about these strict laws of nature known as conservation of momentum and (separate but equally important) conservation of energy (first law of thermodynamics) as well as the energy-always-disperses law (second law of thermodynamics). Depending on the specific subject that one studies — be it, for example, high-energy physics, aerospace engineering, biotechnology, or materials science — these principles are recast into different equations that people in the STEM fields apply in problem-solving exercises so it is ingrained early on. It is probably not an understatement to say that tens of thousands of life career decisions have been made on the well-justified belief that no one has ever or will ever in our lifetimes invent any device that violates these laws.

What people have to understand is that — at least generally speaking — mainstream physics agrees that IF you can “pull energy out of the vacuum” or modify the local gravitational field without moving masses, then time travel, portals, and so on are all possible (I’m a scientist, fwiw).

If Hal Puthoff, Eric Davis, Bill Uhouse, William Tompkins, UAP Gerb, Bob Lazar, Philip Corso, Haim Eshed, Edgar Mitchell, Ross Coulthart, Richard Dolan, Steven Greer, Andrew Basiago, Michael Salla, Edgar Fouché, [continue long list of UFO leakers, scientific researchers, whistleblowers, insiders, investigators, and witnesses] are right, then the secret agencies have in fact discovered a whole set of physical regimes — and devices to construct/access them — that do violate these laws of physics as we know them and which have in turn enabled real-life science-fiction-type capabilities. Not only are the secret agencies agreed upon by most of the above to have developed — and to routinely deploy — antigravity vehicles of various shapes and sizes since the 1950s, but they have also been alleged and/ or speculated by several people to have developed devices that are capable of teleportation and time travel. (As most of the NHI civilizations allegedly visiting earth are generally theorized to have done. So, the argument goes, why couldn’t the human secret agencies have done so?)

And we should remain open to the possibility that the secret agencies have discovered formulas to access these capabilities using only materials found on earth — i.e., without exotic materials.

Without the constraints of “usual physics”, the technologies are theoretically capable of being used for civilization-endangering weapons that could be developed by a lot of different groups. Even someone doing garage tinkering could theoretically become a supreme terrorist without a lot of effort.

If this is the case, then true disclosure would have to entail the knowledge that such a thing is possible, if not the specific formulas themselves.

If this is case, the scientific community would be humiliated, among other institutional issues.

So if this is all true, then, socially, we can’t have real disclosure. The dynamics of society would change so much.

The upside is that there would be no energy scarcity, and a lot of abundance, after a few years.

(Edit: I forgot to say how the consciousness issue connects to both. True disclosure is theorized by many researchers to potentially entail an empirically validated conclusion of the consciousness-comes-first hypothesis (there is a more formal name for this, I believe). Consciousness is theorized as being able to influence extraphysical phenomena including spacetime navigation itself. Many have probably heard of the alleged use of psionic navigation by both humans and aliens. Astral travel, a form of psychic activity or whatever you want to call it, is thus connected to the nuts and bolts stuff, if you will. Or so many researchers and alleged witnesses speculate.

But my point is more about the alleged exotic technology. That might be the bigger practical issue. While a few people might have psychic powers enough to be like jedis and stop a hovercraft in its track, most of us will be in trouble if someone who means us harm accesses exotic weapons or whatever.)

Such as unique identifying marks, shapes, etc.?

Btw they removed this post of a screenshot of the alien on the bed with a title that was something like “wish I could sleep this good”
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/s/y7UX5qQvK0

Hi all, I’m looking for a comprehensive exposition of so-called exotic physics from first principles, like a textbook that explains everything from basic kinematics to quantum electrodynamics, spin, and everything in between, with full mathematical treatment.

I have been trying to find something like this for a while and have not found something like this yet (I saw the document in the altpropulsion wiki and others like it). Hopefully people can imagine the kind of thing I’m talking about.

Assuming it doesn’t exist, would anybody be interested in creating something like this with me? I have an extensive scientific/STEM background.