u/DangerHighVoltage111

Most BTCers claim to be concerned if they will be able to run full nodes if we let Bitcoin scale.

I'll show how one can easily calculate these costs so get better information to make better decisions.

First lets make some educated guesses:

• We want to look at node running at different adoption rates. We will look at:
• 1% (200 times the capability of BTC
• 25% (5000 times the capability of BTC)
• 80% (A mind blowing 16000 times the capability of BTC)
• We assume 1.3 transaction per person per day. Sources: frbservices.org/news/press-releases/051325-findings-from-2025-diary-of-consumer-payment-choice ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scpops/ecb.op201.en.pdf
• An average monetary transaction has the size of 250 Byte (2 in 2 out)
• We take our disk prices from here: backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-cost-per-gigabyte/ ~$15 per terabyte

With all that we can now calculate our costs.

With these we can now calculate the block sizes for each:

8billion * X% * 0.000250/24/6

• 1% 181 MB
• 25% 4.5 GB
• 80% 14 GB

And the needed diskspace per year:

8billion * X% * 1.3 * 365 * 0.000000000250

• 1% 10 TB
• 25% 240 TB
• 80% 760 TB

And lastly we can calculate our cost with todays Disk prices:

• 1% $190 per year
• 25% $4700 per year
• 80% $15200 per year

As comparison a Netflix premiums account costs $324.

So for the price of a Netflix account we could already serve 1% of the population with sound p2p money. Likely more, because this amount of transaction would actually enable people to use L2s self custodial and likely boost our numbers ~50 times.

Even the 80% goal is not out of this world. How much will storage prices fall in the next decade? How much does an average westerner spend for a hobby? I have seen people spend thousands of dollars for games.

Q: What is this?

A: The BCH and XMR community are experimenting with exposing the naked shorting used by exchanges (famously Binance didn't even report their BCH reserves for a very long time - unlike other major coins). Of course, this is simply another manifestation of attempts to suppress p2p cash as outlined in "Hijacking Bitcoin" book. The idea is to regularly coordinate a day when the community withdraws coins from exchanges to on-chain wallets and suck up all the available liquidity, create an impact on the price & in an extreme case blow up a naked shorting exchange that can't meet its BCH/XMR obligations. Think of it like GME & Wall Street Bets for BCH, or the XMR community has a similar idea called "Monerun". This was discussed on Podcast episode 142 if you want to hear more.

Q: When?

A: Now. Any time during the window 0:00 - 23:59 on bank run day UTC time ideally, but if you miss the window slightly that's fine the day after still works. The bank run repeats on the 1st & 15th of each month.

Q: How do I participate?

A: Buy BCH on any custodial exchange (with any fiat or other crypto) & withdraw to your self custodial wallet. Then like this thread & leave a comment saying you participated. Any exchange that is easiest for you or crypto ATM or even any p2p trade works - as long as you are increasing your BCH held self-custodially then you are contributing to the pressure on custodially held BCH supply (which will naturally flow through the market).

Q: What if I don't use exchanges / all my funds are in BCH already?

A: Great work on living the p2p cash dream! You can still contribute by selling some goods & services on that day in order to increase your self-custodial BCH, as well as make noise on social media to spread the word to others!

Q: If this is predictably repeated & publicly announced, can't people "frontrun" it by selling into our volume?

A: Yes, but that's a win if they do. If BCH & XMR Bank Runs are popular enough to noticeably move the price, it's already working. If it's getting enough attention that new people are getting interested in the ecosystem & think about it regularly - even if they start out as speculators - that's a win. The curiosity of why BCH and XMR are uniquely acting like this will lead them to delve deeper sooner or later.

Q: Anything else I need to know?

A: BCH and XMR both have gained significant ranks in marketcap since this initiative began. Coincidence? Hard to say. Exchanges issues have been plentiful in blocking withdraws. The whole market is obviously a scam, but the good news is that bank runs is one way we can potentially uncover naked shorting activity. Keep an eye on the price & watch the price today & this week to see what happens (or distress among custodial exchanges). I will update this thread with anything I notice.

NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS!

(Above text at the courtesy of u/Shibinator.)

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More info:

https://bitcoincashpodcast.com/faqs/Culture/what-is-bch-bank-run

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Most people are concerned if they will be able to run full nodes if we let Bitcoin scale.

I will show how one can easily calculate these costs so get better information to make better decisions.

First lets make some educated guesses:

• We want to look at node running at different adoption rates. We will look at:
• 1% (200 times the capability of BTC
• 25% (5000 times the capability of BTC)
• 80% (A mind blowing 16000 times the capability of BTC)
• We assume 1.3 transaction per person per day. Sources: frbservices.org/news/press-releases/051325-findings-from-2025-diary-of-consumer-payment-choice ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scpops/ecb.op201.en.pdf
• An average monetary transaction has the size of 250 Byte
• We take our disk prices from here: backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-cost-per-gigabyte/ ~$15 per terabyte

With all that we can now calculate our costs.

With these we can now calculate the block sizes for each:

• 1% 181 MB
• 25% 4.5 GB
• 80% 14 GB

And the needed diskspace per year:

• 1% 10 TB
• 25% 240 TB
• 80% 760 TB

And lastly we can calculate our cost with todays Disk prices:

• 1% $190 per year
• 25% $4700 per year
• 80% $15200 per ear

As comparison a Netflix premiums account costs $324.

So for the price of a Netflix account we could already serve 1% of the population with sound p2p money. Likely more, because this amount of transaction would actually enable people to use L2s self custodial and likely boost our numbers ~50 times.

Even the 80% goal is not out of this world. How much will storage prices fall in the next decade? How much does an average westerner spend for a hobby? I have seen people spend thousands of dollars for games.

I thought I remember all this stuff.

Apparently not 🤣💩

Third times the charm...

Divide and conquer. 🤷‍♂️ Maybe the next generation is wiser.

Just asking.

Do you run a navigation light for the jetplanes of the billionaires in your garden, too?

Let's hear your argument.

Why else would they want millions of users hitting reload dozens of times in quick succession until the video loads?