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This video surprised me, it's sounds like he liked women when he was younger. I don't understand how he changed so much as an adult, possibly becoming a gay pedophile.

I mean this figuratively, but during the peak of Thriller he wrote this bizarre manifesto about reinventing himself. He declared that he was going to become a "new Michael," remain shrouded in secrecy, and transform into a "strange beauty." His goal was to unite all races, become a hero to little white children, and make them love him.

He actually followed through with much of it. He left the old Michael behind, dramatically changed his appearance, distanced himself from his family, and deliberately spread bizarre rumors about himself. In a sense, he achieved exactly what he wanted—he became one of, if not the, most famous celebrities in history.

The question is whether it was worth it. He became a desolate drug addict and alcoholic. By the time he died, much of the public viewed him as a joke rather than the untouchable superstar he once was. He also kept his family at a distance, perhaps because he was ashamed of what he had become.

From Thriller onward, it seemed the only things that truly brought him happiness were performing and touching children.

This is my first time creating a sub reddit so I don't think I can manage it on my own. If anyone is interested in becoming a mod please message me!

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I've noticed that while this subreddit is primarily focused on the victims, a lot of people are also interested in discussing Michael Jackson's psychology and trying to understand what drove his behavior.

With that in mind, I created r/PsychologyofMJ. The subreddit is dedicated to examining Michael Jackson's personality, behavior, motivations, relationships, and the psychological factors that may have shaped him. It's intended as a place for analysis and discussion from a variety of perspectives.

If that's something you're interested in, you're welcome to join.

Welcome to r/PsychologyofMJ

Welcome to r/PsychologyofMJ, a community dedicated to discussing the psychology of Michael Jackson.

The purpose of this subreddit is to explore the factors that shaped his personality, behavior, relationships, decision-making, and public persona. Topics may include his childhood, family dynamics, identity, fame, mental health, interpersonal relationships, criminal allegations, and other aspects of his life through a psychological lens.

This is a place for thoughtful discussion, debate, and different interpretations. You don't have to agree with everyone, but conversations should remain civil and focused on the topic rather than personal attacks.

Whether you're here to share your own theories, analyze interviews and events, or simply learn from others, we hope you'll find the discussions interesting and insightful.

Welcome to r/PsychologyofMJ.

This popped up on my TikTok and reminded me of how Marie Nicole said he sniffed her vagina. I also read somewhere that J5 had a music number where Michael would go into the audience and look up womans skirts as a bit. It's no wonder he became a pervert.

I've seen people make this statement multiple times. To defenders the frauds (victims) are just trying to come up with the grossest stories imaginable to make MJ look bad, no one could be that disturbed. Actually Michael was very disturbed , when I first heard Wade Robson detail how Michael abused him it was one of the first times I believed he was a pedophile. The stories are too detailed and unusual for them not to be real, you can't sit down and make up the sick twisted sex acts they claim he did. Being a pedophile is already horrible but he somehow made it worse, something was very wrong with him. He really fooled the world.

*Trigger warning for CSA*

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This is an exerpt from Darwin Porters book "Jacko: his rise and fall". I don't think I believe this but thought it was significant enough to post.

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Also around the time of his marriage to Lisa Marie [Presley], there were allegations floating around that as a pre-pubescent, Michael was "pimped" to pedophiles within the record industry as a means of promoting the advance of The Jackson 5. There is no evidence that this is true but the rumors--some of them quite convincing--still persist.

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To our knowledge, the only person who tried to sell such a story was a sleazy record producer we'll call John Stoffer, who worked the Detroit music industry for some twenty years. He approached the National Enquirer with a very detailed account of how nine-year-old Michael was allegedly delivered to his hotel room in Detroit. His account didn't specify who made the delivery.

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For a fee of ten thousand dollars, Stoffer was willing to tell all. In his report, he gave a very detailed and specific account of how he allegedly sodomized young Michael. "The boy cried through the ordeal and even bled," Stoffer claimed. "But I liked that. You see, I'm quite small down there. I used to be basically straight, but several women laughed at the size of my organ. I turned to young boys--very young--because I achieved great satisfaction in penetrating their tight, virgin butts. Michael was no exception. He was real tight. When I saw the pain I was causing him, it goaded me on and made me feel more like a man."

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Although Stoffer offered times, dates, and places that checked out, his charges could not be proven. The staff at the National Enquirer decided not to publish the scoop, considering it too undocumented for publication. However, Stoffer did help promote and publicize The Jackson 5 and was instrumental in getting radio stations to play the group's records. In his dossier, Stoffer said that Michael was "delivered" to him on three different occasions, and that "each time the boy cried when he was penetrated."

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A member of the Enquirer staff said, "We published more stories about Michael Jackson than any other modern celebrity.... But what we've published is only a grain of sand on the beach. The Enquirer has been approached countless of times by people trying to sell stories about Jacko. Some of them were obvious frauds. Others were quite convincing, but too shocking for the Enquirer.**** Incidentally, I no longer work there."

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This was at the 1984 grammys where he infamously took Brooke Shields and Emmanuel Lewis. He ignored Brooke the whole night in favor of this small child. It's actually crazy how smitten he is in this clip

Maybe I'm over analyzing but it seems like his creepy tendencies started early.

MJ fans find this video clip funny, but to me it’s actually kind of gross. He literally pushes security out of the way to point out a fan and tells the cameramen under his breath to focus on her chest. I can’t find that cute at all—why secretly film someone like that? It just makes him seem like voyeuristic Pervert.

I’m also going to acknowledge the little boy accompanying him and holding his hand.