u/EldritchSatyr

Could Atakhan be repurposed into being a champion in the future?

Atakhan is dead, yes, I am aware. However, riot is now killing off champions in the lore, which character deaths are a great thing when it comes to storytelling when done properly (as seen with Xin Zhao), but the champs of course are still present in the game, so that shouldn't stop Atakhan.

His design doesn't really clash with the other demons we have as champions currently. The only one that is fairly close is nocturne but that is solely for the fact they are both shadowy demons, but their physical differences are drastic enough to not really make it an issue (Nocturne being more humanoid shaped with armblades and Atakhan being a freakish thing with many arms and eyes). He is also a demon that feeds off carnage and bloodshed, which is odd riot didn't make a champion for that yet as its a VERY basic demon trope to have, one that Atakhan fulfills perfectly.
And he does have a design quirk that sets him apart HEAVILY from the rest of the roster:
Four arms.
It is not something that any character in league inherently has as a design trait (besides two legendary skins every now and then, that being spirit blossom sett and dark cosmic jhin). So, it would be interesting to have that for a champion as well.

He is a fairly well written character already. For those who have played the demon's hand minigame, read the comics, seen the cinematics he is in and caught up on some Mordekaiser short stories, Atakhan is present in all of these so he has quite a LOT of relevance in lore we already know of. That, and he is an interesting character, a horrific fusion of Khatash-Li, one of Mordekaiser's generals during his time as Sahn Uzal, combined with the original demon by the same name of atakhan. During the demon's hand minigame we even got a first person perspective of the character, with how he thinks of his loyalities to Mordekaiser and conquest in general. Hell, even if he is deceased NOW its not like they can add a bit more to his lore later. We gave Ambessa a whole novel after all and she died before that.

Gameplay-wise, he could fit as either a midlane mage (as we saw him firing demonic blasts from his arms ingame already) or some kind of hyper aggressive magic bruiser (we see him going nuts in both cinematics he is present in, he MOVES).
He has a 3d model already and sure he was a monster objective but he has the qualities needed for a champion to be made from him, which is what sets him apart from the likes of Baron Nashor, Vilemaw, and Elder Dragon. These qualities being an interesting design, a story with quite a bit of depth, a personality to the character (Atakhan being very, VERY angry 24/7 and begrudgingly loyal to a fault towards Mordekaiser), and interactions with other characters (which he has quite a lot of, especially with Morde and Leblanc).
And besides, they could shrink the model to Aurelion's size and he should be fine. They would have to give him new animations to accommodate for being a playable champion but there is at least a really good starting ground with everything else.

And hey, it would be cool to see the bois back in town, with Mordekaiser, Tybaulk (Tibbers via Annie ult), and Atakhan all on the same team.

What do you guys think?

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u/EldritchSatyr — 2 days ago

So a while ago we just ended a campaign from burnout after having it ongoing for like... two years. It was a fun campaign don't get me wrong, but there were times where the DM, at least towards me, was a bit off-putting to say the least.

For the record, I was playing a tiefling sorcerer. We were already toward the later half of the campaign as at this point in time we were all at like level 11-14. My character already did his backstory stuff with uprooting a cult tied to his family, my friends had their characters go through or just start their backstory stuff, so on. Needless to say the party was already fairly strong, including myself.

So anyway, one of encounters during this timeframe led to me going on a solo operation of breaking into a skaven hideaway (yes, the Warhammer skaven), where I began to terrorize them since Skaven are prone to retreating. So I had a hound of ill omen spook them, while I, with invisibility on myself, and using thaumaturgy to speak louder, made it sound like it came from the dog (since it's a WEIRD looking dog made of shadows). As the skaven were panicking, I had HALF the fort subjected to 3 different fireballs.

So I ended invisibility when me and the rest of my group (a minotaur, an aasimar, a goliath and a kobold) rounded the rest of the skaven up for intel. I rolled into intimidate them while holding a fireball and the dm went "okay do it with disadvantage."

Me: "Why?"

DM: "Well you made your character look like an eboy so its not as threatening"

Me: "I NUKED HALF THEIR FORT!? AND KILLED DOZENS OF THEM???"

DM: "Doesn't matter I'm sorry."

Fortunately I still succeeded in intimidating them somewhat, but not enough to get them to spill information on any other evil rat operations going on in their territory. I still found that interaction a bit odd.

That wasn't the only weird issue as it would involve an elf npc later on.

So for the record this elf tagged along the party here and there to help us through various encounters. To describe her character, or how she was supposed to be, was a mellow person who is exhaustedly tied with a bunch of idiots (that being me and my group). At some point, in the campaign, the DM had the elf confess her feelings to my character.

Now, I was not overly comfortable with this, so I brought it up to the DM, and said "I don't want to since I don't feel alright with this, so how about I respectfully turn them down? Just so they aren't upset?" The DM agreed with me, or so I thought...

Every other interaction involving my character had with NPC's had to loop back to the elf giving aggressive remarks to me. The DM kept cracking jokes amidst that being like "dude you had your chance man."

Later on, like a month after we stopped the campaign the DM brought it up again for a joke, and I sit there and ask:

"I don't know why you had to make her viciously hate me after that?"

DM: "Well what do you think happens when you reject a woman?"

Me: "Dude I don't think every woman is going to be aggressive all the time if you respectfully turn them down."

DM: "Just saying how it is, I don't know what else you were expecting."

(For the record, and I don't mean this in any hurtful way, the DM has not had a full on relationship with a girl to my knowledge).

So those were the two instances that happened that came off as odd to me. I am still playing DnD with this group and so far since that last instance, nothing major has happened in the past few months of this year. I just felt like sharing this because I can't be the only one who thinks this reasoning is a bit weird, right?

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u/EldritchSatyr — 16 days ago

For the record I don't really have a dedicated main as it alternates between Swain, Aurelion, and Fiddlesticks, however Swain was my very FIRST main that got me into this game so he holds a special place in my heart.

I got into playing Swain like WAAAY back in early 2017 (just a year before his vgu) solely for the fact his ult form looked like a Lord of Change from warhammer.
By the by you can see the old model now on the Khada 3d model viewer (finally). The one you see here is the ult form for Tyrant Swain

Don't get me wrong I still like the post-vgu version, he became one of League's best written characters for Runeterra. I still miss the big evil bird form though.

What about the rest of you?

u/EldritchSatyr — 19 days ago

I began messing around with the new Pandemonium skin thematic because hey I love me some Runeterran demons, the designs are great. I figured I could incorporate Seraphine into it somehow and I think some of yall might like this result as a concept.

u/EldritchSatyr — 27 days ago