VS question: Team Atari or Team Activision
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VS question: Team Atari or Team Activision

Great rivalries are a fundamental element of pop-culture fandom and that is of course especially true for gaming as well. There could be books written about this very topic (probably there are) and needless to say, there can be plenty examples in early gaming history.

One of those rivalries is the one between Atari and Activision. Not only between the companies, which even led to a fierce legal battle, but also between fans of both camps. 

What about the community? Are you team Atari or team Activision?  

u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 7 days ago
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Follow Up: Swordquest - No cool comic. just a booklet in the EU

This is a quick follow up to my earlier post about the crazy treasure hunt, that was part of the marketing campaign for the Atari 2600 game Swordquest: Earthworld. Since many users talked about the comic books that came with the game in the US and other countries, I double checked my old treasure chest, where I kept the games and found - nothing!

We just got a plain instruction booklet, which was not even very self explanatory! Can you believe it? No cool comic, just a few pages with text! That was 40 years ago, I never knew and never minded. Up to now! Now I kinda feel betrayed. 😩

u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 15 days ago

The fantastic treasures of Swordquest

Currently I am trying to set up my old Atari 2600. After getting lots of positive feedback and advice from the community, I am really motivated to get it done. And I even found the tv- and power cable yesterday.

Unfortunately there are just a few cartridges left from my original collection. So it will be fun starting the treasure hunt again. One of these titles is Swordquest: Earthworld. I never really understood how to play the game, back then I wanted something like Adventure or Raiders of the Lost Ark, which I really enjoyed! But Swordquest? To this day I have no idea how to  play it. I remember though I liked the movement from room to room and the vivid colours. But beyond that...

So I thought, I just google a little bit and maybe after merely 40 years I can go deeper than the title screen. But what I found was quite different. This Wikipedia articles, I stumbled upon, mentioned real life treasures you could win, when you beat one of the four games in the series. 

Swordquest - Wikipedia 

It's absolutely insane. According to the article for example the prize for my game Earthworld would be this: The "Talisman of Penultimate Truth", an 18-karat solid gold disc studded with 12 diamonds, the birthstones of the 12 Zodiac signs and a miniature white gold sword set atop it.

I mean I hear lots of crazy and hilarious legends about games over the years, like the nude cheat in the first Tomb Raider game. Honestly games are prefect for creating this extra surreal layer on our everyday lives. Don't you think? But in a Wikipedia article?

I don't know. Does anybody know if this was true as explained in the article?

u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 18 days ago

Welcome everybody!

Just realized quite a few new people have joined this community. Really nice to have you onboard. Looking forward to exchange with you. Please let me know if there is any topic you would like to talk about or you would like me to address here. 😀

u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 23 days ago
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Activision and the Mandela Effect

I could have sworn the name was Choplifter! It wasn't! The name of the game, I liked so much and played for hours on end in my childhood, was Chopper Command!

Now that I think more about retrogames and contemplate often about titles, I played as a kid, I sometimes learn facts the hard way when browsing the community and realizing how much my memory has tricked me. So it's Chooper Command and not Chopflifter, as I proudly remembered the last 40 years. 

There is a psychological effect called the Mandela Effect, describing a collective memory, that everybody is absolutely sure to remember correctly, but which still is wrong. It comes from the collective memory saying that Nelson Mandela died in prison, while in reality he left Robben Island and even became president of South Africa. 

In videogames one of such false memories is Pikachu having a black tip at his tail, while in reality the tail is fully yellow. I could have sworn on that too. Doesn't help, it's still wrong.

Do you have any wrong memories about old games, that you always thought were true, only to find out later, that reality play by its own rules?

u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 25 days ago
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How River Raid destroyed the youth

When trying to get my old Atari 2600 running again I found an old copy of River Raid in my treasure box of lost games. I have wonderful memories of this game, especially how my friends an I spent hours taking turns on the game, when all we had to worry about in life was not forgetting math homework for tomorrow. Those were the days before tax declaration and TEAMS calls.

So now if have this old cartridge in hands and while realizing the label comes off, I suddenly recall that River Raid was once put on the index in Germany by the unforgiveable Bundesprüfstelle in 1984, as a quick Google-search showed me. As a teen I heard that somewhere, but really didn't think much about it, showing how effective that system was back then. It is really laughable how videogames where considered dangerous until not too long ago. For example this one got of the index only in 2003. But seeing the blocky graphics and relative slow pace of River Raid, it is hard to believe how this game could have ended up on the index. My reckless research also showed me that quite a few other titles ended on the blacklist namely:

Blue Max (1985): 

Commando / Who Dares Wins II (1986)

Green Beret (1986)

Rambo: First Blood Part II (1986)

Among many others. And not to forget the infamous

Barbarian: The Ultimate Warrior (1987): 

The funny thing is, this title was not only on the index for its gruesome beheading scene, but even more for the cover showing a scantily clad b-movie starlet Maria Whittaker. 

I know the German authorities are well known for their stance and allegedly some companies were marketing their games with the line "indexed in Germany", although I never saw proof of that.

I wonder, how was that in your your countries? Were any of the early games of the Atari 2600 era or later indexed?

u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 1 month ago
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This is my gamer journey

When I browse the subreddits related to gaming, I am always amazed how diverse the respective journeys through this hobby are. It is almost like no two are alike. I ever thought my personal touch points with gaming wre so typical, everybody must have the same experiences. But of course when you think about it, there are so many decisions, coincidences and random factors that play a role in what you played, where you encountered games and what you do today.

I am really curious to hear your journeys through the ever expanding gaming landscape starting with the good old games from the arcade time.

For me, I followed this path:

Phase 1: Game&Watch

Phase 2: Pong

Phase 3: Arcade Games

Phase 4: Atari VCS 2600

Phase 5: Commodore 64

Phase 6: DOS Games on PC

Phase 7: PS 1

Phase 8: Nintendo 64

Phase 9: GameCube

Phase 10: Wii

Phase 11: Various Appstore games and PC

Phase 12: Switch

Our course the Phase were not always completely exclusive to each other. Many overlaps and priorities over time. But I can say, that in all these phases, I had retty clear preferences, also preventing pretty much games from other plattforms at the same time. For example, in my Atari VCS phase, I never had a Intellivision or Colecco system.

How did you travel through the gaming landscape, especially in the early years? What were your first contact points with games?

u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 1 month ago
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The impossible game canon

The German news magazine DER SPIEGEL finally acknowledged that video games are culture and with a team of eight editors selected the Best 50 Games, everybody should play now. 

You can imagine such a list has to trigger an outrage and surely it did. What games in the long history should be considered the best? What does it even mean the best? The most influential, the most successful in terms of sales or the longest popular franchise? Of course German gamers couldn't stop complaining and asked why certain games have been included while others were not.

In the SPIEGEL's defence, they made it very clear from the start, that this was a subjective selection of the eight editors and definitely not the final evaluation of the long history of video games. It was meant to indicate that the games mentioned are more or less current, so no retro games, and supposed to be playable right away without the need to play any earlier part in a franchise. They even started a public discussion on their website, where readers could suggest their own games. How much more open can you design it?

And still! The outrage was immense. 

Which is a good thing! Because:

  1. It showed that German game culture reached the main stream

  2. Gamers had a very clear image of which games are important

  3. A game canon of any type is a difficult task

I personally love these kinds of "Top 10 games of WHATSOEVER" lists, because I also immediately start wondering how the heck this list was made up.

And I always wonder why certain retro games are not part of it.

What do you think? Does it make sense at all to create such lists? Or should they be curated even more? And how about the legacy of retro games? Shouldn't they get more weight in such lists?

DER SPIEGEL 14.08.2026 SPIEGEL-KANON \"Die 50 besten Videospiele\"

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u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 2 months ago
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The necessity of Public Gaming in 8-bit

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Long before Public Viewing became a thing or the term e-Sports was even heard of, video games were a common public event. And I am not talking about game arcades. I am talking about game section of department stores.

To be honest I don't know if that actually was the case in other countries as well. But one of my first touch points with video games in Germany, were in fact toy sections of department stores. Games were not so ubiquitous back then, with the concept of smartphones being just Star Trek. I remember seeing the Space Invaders  in a department store, when I went shopping with my mom. And it was fantastic! My mom could just park me there and I stayed glued to the spot together with a crowd of other kids, waiting to be next in line playing. At that time I didn't realize it so much, but thinking about it now, I almost enjoyed it more watching the other kids play than actually playing myself. Then I didn't have to focus so much on the action and could just marvel at the firework of colours and the symphony of bit-sounds.

Many a new friendships have been started on the spot and forgotten the next day, unless you happened to meet again at the next shopping tour with your mom.

I wonder, was that only a thing in Germany or did you encounter games in departments stores as part of a crowd of kids as well?

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u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 2 months ago
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Not PONG after all

I always thought the first video game, I ever played, was PONG. But then I realized, the game I actually played first, that could be considered a video game, although that's open to debate, was a game called "Monkey" on a Game&Watch imitation with the innovative brand name "Time&Fun". That was all I could afford as a kid with my pocket money. And guess what? I still found it at my parent's house. Thanks to my mom, who never threw anything away.

It's somehow insane to think about it now. But that LCD screen with it's pre-defined character display was like a window into a new world back then.  The game is actually quite fun. Little Monkeys climb up on three coconut trees and try to steal the coconuts. The player has to hit them with a club before they get away. That is all, but back then it was like magic, the movement and the beeping noises, not even music. 

I have the little game on my desk, but I can't open the tiny screw of the battery case any more. Anybody got an idea how I could open the battery case when the screw is weak? 

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u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 2 months ago
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Need more territory

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I started getting all my old games out of the cardboard boxes in order to build a respectable man cave. And after just a couple of minutes already realized the cupboard I bought is already too tight. Couldn't even cover the GameBoy, SNES and PC games., not mentioning the Atari 2600. How are you dealing with space issues?

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u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 2 months ago
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Donkey Kong vs. Donkey Kong Jr.

The VS question of video games

Donkey Kong or Donkey Kong Jr.? — Can a sequel ever outplay the original?

There are a few games, where the sequel was perceived as better than the original. Donkey Kong,  being the ground breaking game it is, is often seen as one of them. I personally never felt the fever when playing Donkey Kong, but still quite like Donkey Kong Jr. today.

Back then I didn't really understand the impact of Mario being the villain, now in hindsight though, this gives me an added pleasure, almost like a world turned upside down. Especially when you think about how the Mario franchise evolved. 

I am curious, what do you think?

Donkey Kong or Donkey Kong Jr.?

Maybe an even bigger question hiding behind it is asking if a sequel could ever genuinely surpass the game that made it possible, making the original fade away.

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u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 3 months ago

👋 Welcome to r/GamesforBusyPeople - Introduce Yourself and Read First!

Welcome on board

Happy to see the first visitors in this community!

Thank you so much for dropping by, I hope to see you again and participating in my endeavour to revive the mood and feel of our first encounter with video games.

I am curious to hear about your experience with video games back then or now. Do you see games as a cultural aspect of our society? How does it shape discussions? How much does it differ among countries and times?

Quite exciting journey, I would say! Please feel free to share your thoughts, photos, most importantly memories and experiences

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u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 3 months ago
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How I met Pac Man

It is funny how we often talk about the first game, we played, or the first console we owned. But I noticed, the way we encountered games, is so different between countries and regions. Being a kid in Germany, I always thought it was just everywhere the same, playing Pac Man in a backroom of a local pub. There was just one single arcade machine in that room and half of the village teens gathering around that one. 

Can you imagine how mesmerized I was, when I went to Italy with my family for a vacation and ran into a sparkling, brightly lit game centre at our holiday spot? Literally dozens, or hundreds (?) of arcade machines creating an infernal noise. Many of games, I haven't even heard about. Heaven for me, hell for my parents.

Up until then I didn't know that this was a specific cultural moment — one that existed in that exact form only in certain countries, certain decades, certain kinds of rooms. Of course I didn't think about it too much. Only that Italy was right and Germany was wrong on that respect, just to learn as an adult, that this was due to gambling laws in Germany.

Really strange how the location, or the area where you live also defines how you experienced games. Something hard to imagine nowadays with globalized marketing, mobile games and Steam libraries.

And yet we talk about retro gaming as if it were one shared experience. 

Later when I lived in Japan, I again learned a different gaming culture, so I am really curious, how did you encounter games first time? What impact do you think it had on your love for games?

Photo by Carl Raw on Unsplash

u/Exciting_Bunch2386 — 3 months ago