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Aksum Inscriptions of Himyaritic and Sabaean writings, ruined towns, pre islamic -christian burials, decorated stelae cemeteries and greco-roman and Phoenicians artifacts are under threat because urban development need stones, the west in desperate need for illicit antiquities and looting.

couple of quotes from the article i linked below, of a Archaeologist in the north searching for connections to aksum, punt and pre islamic - christian towns and burials in somalia

"Up until that moment I had not realized how severe the looting of archaeological sites had become"

"and I made a report to the government which cancelled the mandate of a diaspora Somaliland heritage organization that was designed as a cover-up for the looting"

"The Land of Punt thus may well be the area of current-day Somalia/Somaliland. However, the current interest has triggered looting activities, as demand has increased from wealthy locals for so-called “Puntite” sculptures."

"There is also recent graffiti, and intentional vandalism. Sadly, the painted rocks are still rocks that are utilized for building and construction. But by far the most destructive problem is looting and the aggressive, illicit trade in antiquities."

"During a month of exploration on my own, I located rock art sites, ruined towns and decorated stelae cemeteries, ancient Christian burials and sites with Himyaritic and Sabaean writing."

 "It is possible that regions like Hargeysa might have lost some of its ancient heritage due to rapid urban development, at least in the last two decades. It is also possible that phallic grave-markers have been destroyed, as these are more explicit than ancient signs. "

"These are under threat of looting and digging as well as urban development, as the demand for building material increases and the heaps of stones are easy and ready in the eyes of the stone collectors/cutters."

"This was an important site from the third century BCE, serving as a settlement to support Graeco-Roman trade. Stern (1987) located Roman glass at Heis (Xiis), but there are also reports of Phoenician painted glass featuring female, non-African women"

Mapping the Archaeology of Somaliland: Religion, Art, Script, Time, Urbanism, Trade and Empire | African Archaeological Review | Springer Nature Link

do you believe somalis are actually originate from sudan. In somalia it isn't in our oral traditions or even talked about that somalis orginated in sudan. but most DNA test shows otherwise. the first picture is a dna test for a somali person.

pretty cool. its the same pattern aswell. i literally have the same as the massai guy, just not cut up.

I know most people use the colonial-era definition of the Middle East, and I get why. It’s familiar, it’s taught everywhere, and challenging something people have already accepted can feel annoying or disrespectful. So before anything else, I want to ask everyone to read this with an open mind. I’m not trying to provoke anyone I’m trying to explain why I think the current definition is objectively flawed.

Colonial powers were historically terrible at identifying cultural regions and borders. They drew lines based on their own interests, not on the realities of the people living there. And I think the modern “Middle East” suffers from that legacy. When you look at the map, the region feels awkward and inconsistent and there’s a real reason for that.

To me, a region should be defined by four things:

1. Which empires historically controlled who, and who influenced what cultures
2. Natural geographic borders
3. What languages are spoken
4. Who originally lived there

These criteria work well for Europe, East Asia, South Asia, and Africa. But the Middle East is trickier because it sits at the crossroads of so many civilizations. so many people have fought for the same land, and migrations happens. Still, there is a clear historical and cultural pattern that colonial borders ignore.

If we look at the major empires Achaemenid, Parthian, Sasanian, Umayyad, Abbasid, Seljuk we see something interesting: despite their differences, they all expanded within almost the same boundaries. Most stopped around the Indus River, the Aral Sea, bosphorus strait, and North Africa. Only the Ottomans pushed further into Europe and deeper into sub sahara. This repeated pattern suggests something important: these empires expanded into areas they saw as culturally connected or naturally within their sphere of influence.

People don’t just conquer whoever they can. Historically, they expand into regions that feel culturally familiar or geographically reachable. This is also a legitimate academic argument. Scholars often use the Achaemenid, Sasanian, Umayyad, Abbasid, and Seljuk expansions to understand cultural zones. These empires did repeatedly cover similar geographic areas.

Natural borders reinforce this. The Indus River consistently marked the eastern limit of Persian, Arab and turkic influence for thousands of years. bosphorus strait. The Aral Sea shaped movement patterns of Turkic and Iranian peoples. These borders mattered long before colonial powers arrived.

Number three is where I think the Middle East is at its weakest point, because it’s the part most people look at first: language. Europe is lucky in this sense they’re mostly connected through Indo‑European languages, which makes the region feel more unified. The Middle East, because of where it sits geographically, has always been exposed to different powers trying to conquer, influence, and reshape languages. So of course the linguistic map looks messy.

But I don’t think language should matter as much as people assume. We know language families tell us very little about genetics and culture. And throughout history, many populations were forced to adopt new languages without mixing with the people who imposed them. So a language shift doesn’t automatically mean a genetic or cultural shift. It’s similar to how many Africans speak French today without being genetically French, there was no large-scale mixing like what happened in Latin America.

The last point is about origins. this one is complicated but, far west anatolia, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan were first inhabited by Iranian Neolithic farmers. Meanwhile, the Arabian Peninsula and the Levant were first inhabited by Natufian peoples. These deep roots show long-term movement patterns and cultural relationships that modern borders ignore.

Why do I think redefining the Middle East matters?
Because the region is the only major part of the world without a strong, unified regional cooperation organization. Europe has the EU. Africa has the African union. East and Southeast Asia have ASEAN. But the Middle East or West Asia doesn’t have anything comparable. Yes, the Gulf states cooperate, and Turkey has influence in parts of the Arab world, but there’s no broad, inclusive regional framework.

One reason is that we don’t even agree on what the Middle East is. If the region itself is poorly defined, how can its states build stable cooperation?

I know I’m just one person, not even middle eastern or even close to it, and I’m not claiming to have all the answers. I just think the colonial definition is holding the region back, and that a more historically grounded definition could help create a clearer identity and maybe even more cooperation in the future.

I’d really like to hear people’s opinions on this, but lets be respectful. i just want us to be more open with redefining this region of the world, and not blindly accepting the colonials definition.

i see, with a market approaching 500 million people, the country could potentially become a major global power like Germany, the US, japan and China, or a blood bath.